Chris Johnson's splits

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Please, do continue to simply mimick the opinion of every draft website you read instead of formulating your own opinion.

I don't do that. I have maintained from the very beginning that I thought from watching him that CJ is much more than just speed. I said I liked his cutting ability and he was very underrated in terms of power.

Boyleheart agrees with me. That reinforces my opinion. I do think for myself but I also am not arrogant like you to think that my opinion is the best or most informed. If Boyleheart or any other professional with better access to information disagrees with me then I take notice and revisit my previous views. Youre too arrogant to see that.

Its just sad as usual with your bias and refusal to admit you may be mistaken that you were saying in that clip that he didn't cut but shuffled his feet when you could see his right foot plant and you see his body rise. when you shuttle your feet you dip. It just showed me you are worthless when it comes to evaluating film.

 

[theogt]

I don't do that.

Actually, that's pretty much all you do. You don't really bring much else to the table. Hell, when you actually tried to describe two runs in a Johnson video you completely failed. It was a remarkable display of ignorance.

 

[tomson75]

I heart these threads...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Actually, that's pretty much all you do. You don't really bring much else to the table.

blah blah blah. I remember going over this with Schmitt. i said from looking at the footage that he looked to be in the 4.7 to 4.8 range. Its funny you ridiculed me for making evaluations from youtube clips. that makes you a hypocrite.

I glean information from as many sources as possible.

Youre as usual just trying to insult me becasue you know youre being owned here. Just like you tried to insult the engineering profession when it was clear you had no idea what youre talking about.

Quite frankly youre being stupid seeing that the last discussion that we had about CJ was because I thought from watching him that he was agile. Youre just baselessly lashing out at me. Par the course with you as well.

im just waiting for your childish OMG!!!!!1!!! nonsense or you to try and change the subject.

 

[theogt]

blah blah blah. I remember going over this with Schmitt. i said from looking at the footage that he looked to be in the 4.7 to 4.8 range. Its funny you ridiculed me for making evaluations from youtube clips. that makes you a hypocrite.

Actually, I ridiculed you for saying he was slow because he was chased down by a linebacker, when all ballcarriers are chased down by linebackers on occasion. The particular clips you referred to didn't really show his speed relative to those linebackers at all. But I'm not surprised you can't discern the difference between the two, considering your reading comprehension level and all.

 

[texbumthelife]

Jamal Charles

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Actually, Westbrook was 5'8". That's 3 inches of difference (or more precise, 2-5/8"). It's like saying Chris Johnson and Darren McFadden are the same size.

As for film, if you can't tell from 5 seconds of clips that they don't like anything alike, you're blind and useless.

Precisely.

The only reason the Westbrook comparison is being made is that both played at smaller schools, both are under 200 lbs, and both catch the ball.

But there are tons of guy out there like that. Doesn't mean they're all going to be Brian Westbrook.

Predraft, every player is a current All-Pro. Nobody is Trung Canidate.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Are you incapable of making a post without having to add to it?

Youre entire argument is ad hominem. i have clearly pointed out that he planted his foot and hopped. Thats not ignorance that is me trying to explain what I saw and how I came to my conclusion. You just resort to this childish name calling because you are incapable of bring anything to the table.

Quit projecting your failings onto me.

 

[theogt]

Are you incapable of making a post without having to add to it?

Youre entire argument is ad hominem. i have clearly pointed out that he planted his foot and hopped. Thats not ignorance that is me trying to explain what I saw and how I came to my conclusion. You just resort to this childish name calling because you are incapable of bring anything to the table.

Quit projecting your failings onto me.

Projecting my failings on to you? What does that even mean? Wow.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Actually, I ridiculed you for saying he was slow because he was chased down by a linebacker, when all ballcarriers are chased down by linebackers on occasion. The particular clips you referred to didn't really show his speed relative to those linebackers at all. But I'm not surprised you can't discern the difference between the two, considering your reading comprehension level and all.

Its funny my prediction of him running a 4.7 to 4.8 from that was right. Again more childish ad hominem from you. Im done with this.

Dont argue with the fool as they say.

 

[theogt]

Its funny my prediction of him running a 4.7 to 4.8 from that was right. Again more childish ad hominem from you. Im done with this.

Dont argue with the fool as they say.

Of course, you only predicted him running between a 4.7 and 4.8 after you said three times that he would run a 4.8.

I guess I could make a prediction that we'll win 16 games next season, then later say we'll win between 9 and 16 and claim that I was correct all along. But then I'd look like an idiot.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Of course, you only predicted him running between a 4.7 and 4.8 after you said three times that he would run a 4.8.

I guess I could make a prediction that we'll win 16 games next season, then later say we'll win between 9 and 16 and claim that I was correct all along. But then I'd look like an idiot.

i mean more specific thant hat. Also I am not the only one that thinks he runs around the 4.7 - 4.8 range. Those clips were just one thing that i looked at as well as a few drat sites and the guy had the reputation for a long time of always getting caught from behind. Like i said well see.

this is the same site that came up with Stanbacks numbers after all.

Was on the 37th page of that thread find a post where is said what you claim before that.

Repeating your lies over and over again wont make them true.

Oh and BTW i knew youd try and change the subject.

 

[theogt]

Was on the 37th page of that thread find a post where is said what you claim before that.

Repeating your lies over and over again wont make them true.

Oh and BTW i knew youd try and change the subject.

Your post saying he'd run between a 4.7 and 4.8 was post #555 in that thread. But three times before that you said he'd run a 4.8 (which is part of what started the debate).

Here's post #59:

Im going to laugh when schmitt runs his 4.8

Post #61:

youre the one babbling about what an athlete Schmitt is but the dude runs a 4.8

And post #221:

thats salient from that site. probably will be brought up as your excuse when he runs a 4.8.

:shoot5:

 

[tomson75]

It could also be noted that Schmitt's time may have been hampered by recent injury. Gotta say that he is, at the very least, a very solid 4.7...if not slightly better when he's healthy. It's ok to admit you were wrong Fuzzy.

 

[DFWJC]

STOP Necro Time

Boyleheart on CJ

Chris Johnson RB East Carolina


TALENT BOARD ROUND 2
The Philadelphia Eagles in the 3rd round of the 2002 draft picked Brian Westbrook (RB Villanova). Brian was about the same size as Chris is right now and everybody thought Brian would be an excellent third down back. But Brian fooled everybody! He bulked up and has become a franchise back because of his intelligence, his natural talent, his mental toughness and the ability to stay injury free. Chris has the same type of athletic talent as Brian. In fact, he just might be a little bit faster. He has been bothered in the past with injuries and does fumble at times, so he will have to bulk up and realize that to play hurt and to play with an injury are two different things. He has to learn to play hurt and to play through the pain. He has to learn when to go down and when not to push for more yardage. Chris is a natural runner when he runs through the tackles because he has good balance, vision, lateral agility and can break tackles with his speed and quickness. There is no doubt in my mind that Chris has the potential to be a franchise player. Give him the chance to touch the ball 15 or 20 times at different positions and special teams and Chris will be an impact player just like Brian and Reggie are for their teams. Chris is what is known in the game as a game breaker. He is the type of player that can score from anywhere on the field and on any given play. I going to call him Chris (Zip Code) Johnson because I think he can stand up to that train and re-establish that zip code the post office so conveniently forgot about.

I've heard several people compare Westbrook to CJ. But Westbrook is not nearly as fast but is smarter and a bit more creative. Right now, I say CJ is more like Wille Parker.

 

[DFWJC]

Jamal Charles

I do think they are similar. I would choose CJ over Charles, but not before the 3 top-rated backs. Plus, I'm a bit curious about Ray Rice. Guess we'll see soon enough.

 

[DFWJC]

Would not be surprised to see 8-10 RBs in this years class contibute down the road.

 

[tomson75]

Would not be surprised to see 8-10 RBs in this years class contibute down the road.

It'd surprise me. I see how you can look at 8-10 RB's in this class and see some serious draft value, but the likelihood of all of them panning out is slim.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

but I wouldn't use doing OK against the top 25 as part of my argument.

fine then, but he still stepped it up against better comp, looking at his splits against winning teams

 

[theogt]

fine then, but he still stepped it up against better comp, looking at his splits against winning teams

Which includes such hardy competitors as UNC, UCF, UTEP, NC State, UAB, Memphis, Marshall, Tulane, and Boise State.