Chris Johnson's splits

[DFWJC]

Interesting you say he did OK against top 25. He only played against two top 25 teams (Virgina Tech in the opener and a few weeks later against West Virginia) and he was less than OK against either.

Virginia Tech Stats:
10 carries, 29 yards, 0 TDs, and a pathetic 2.9 YPC
0 receptions, 0 yards, 0 TDs, and obviously 0.00 Yard per catch

West Virginia States:
14 carries, 76 yards, 1 TD, and a really nice 5.4 YPC
3 receptions, 13 yards, 0 TDs, and 4.33 Yards per catch


His game against WVU was Ok, I suppose, and could have been better had he been given the ball more. I guess this one was more of a product of getting blown out. With that in mind though you'd think, with his recieving skills, he'd have been factored into the passing game a bit more. Just two weeks before that game he had a 5 catch, 136 yard, 2 TD performance in the passing game. It was against a much lesser opponent in North Carolina, however, and that has to be considered.

But, still, that doesn't make him OK against the top 25. He was passable against one and out right terrible against the other.

Now I'm not saying this cause I don't like the kid, I really do like him, but I wouldn't use doing OK against the top 25 as part of my argument.

Just my take on this:

The Va Tech game was opening game (CJ coming off a minor injury) at VT (a very tough place for offenses to play). Plus the ECU starting QB got suspended before the game and VT decided to totally load up vs the run. I think that game was not a good indicator. The game was close, but not much offense.

WVU just routed ECU, CJ was not too bad in that one. I'm also not sure how much he played later in the game. As a reciever, he is amazingly talented...but ECU really spreads it around, so a RB can be left out at times.

 

[TheCount]

fine then, but he still stepped it up against better comp, looking at his splits against winning teams

Does that mean he stepped it down because of his poor average against losing teams?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Which includes such hardy competitors as UNC, UCF, UTEP, NC State, UAB, Memphis, Marshall, Tulane, and Boise State.

did CJ pick the schedule?

but continue to use your amateurish evaluating skills off youtube highlights

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Does that mean he stepped it down because of his poor average against losing teams?

it doesn't matter as much as how he stepped up his play

 

[theogt]

did CJ pick the schedule?

Whether he picked the schedule or not is irrelevant. Using the term "winning teams" is misleading because a lot of "winning teams" in college are terrible.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Whether he picked the schedule or not is irrelevant. Using the term "winning teams" is misleading because a lot of "winning teams" in college are terrible.

ok, theo, how are we supposed to evaluate players

youtube highlights and combine times?

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Well reading through this trend gave me an entertaining afternoon at least.

It'd surprise me. I see how you can look at 8-10 RB's in this class and see some serious draft value, but the likelihood of all of them panning out is slim.

I have to agree, alot of them look good now, and people see their numbers or size and think "If Emmitt could do it at that size and speed, hey he might be the one...."

Truth be told, their wont be alot of great backs in this draft when all is said and done. One thing I do have, we are so low in the second, why do we think he will be down there. I really think he will be gone before we pick.

 

[theogt]

ok, theo, how are we supposed to evaluate players

youtube highlights and combine times?

However you feel like.

 

[DFWJC]

It'd surprise me. I see how you can look at 8-10 RB's in this class and see some serious draft value, but the likelihood of all of them panning out is slim.

Normally, I would completely agree. But look at this partial list and tell me 8-10 guys will not eventually (maybe not this season) make an NFL team and actually get some reps.

McFadden, Stewart, mendenhall, Rice, K Smith, C Johnson, F Jones, M Forte, J Charles, S Slaton, T Choice, T Brown, C Byrd, M hart, J parmele, A Patrick, J Forsett, Chad Simpson, D Savage, C Washington, K Lumpkin.....etc, etc.

I think 8-10 of that incomplete list of 21 RBs will make someone's team...maybe more.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

However you feel like.

you are so lame, dude

 

[theogt]

you are so lame, dude

I'm deeply, deeply hurt.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm deeply, deeply hurt.

you live vicariously through the Internet

so I wouldn't be suprised

 

[peplaw06]

I heart these threads...

+1

I really don't care one way or the other. I don't have influence on who we pick.

But I love reading these things. Feel the love.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Normally, I would completely agree. But look at this partial list and tell me 8-10 guys will not eventually (maybe not this season) make an NFL team and actually get some reps.

McFadden, Stewart, mendenhall, Rice, K Smith, C Johnson, F Jones, M Forte, J Charles, S Slaton, T Choice, T Brown, C Byrd, M hart, J parmele, A Patrick, J Forsett, Chad Simpson, D Savage, C Washington, K Lumpkin.....etc, etc.

I think 8-10 of that incomplete list of 21 RBs will make someone's team...maybe more.

Ok cool, you clarified that, depends on your definition of contribute down the road really. If contributing is playing a few years then at home on the couch, or being a starter in the league.

 

[theogt]

you live vicariously through the Internet

so I wouldn't be suprised

What does that even mean?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

What does that even mean?

you live your hopes and dreams of being right and knowledgeable through the Internet

you're like Dina Lohan

 

[DFWJC]

you live your hopes and dreams of being right and knowledgeable through the Internet

you're like Dina Lohan

You two must be bored.

 

[theogt]

you live your hopes and dreams of being right and knowledgeable through the Internet

you're like Dina Lohan

What a strange thing to say for someone in your shoes.

 

[DFWJC]

Predraft, every player is a current All-Pro. Nobody is Trung Canidate.

:laugh2:
true dat.

Draft time is the season of hope.

 

[tomson75]

What a strange thing to say for someone in your shoes while standing on a dictionary and receiving an enema.

Fixed.