Christine Michael if F. Jackson signs with Seattle?

Doomsday101

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I don't presume to have all the answers and I've gone to great lengths to make that clear. But that doesn't mean I can't express disagreement with and concern over how the running back position has been handled.



We're in complete agreement here.

Of course not, I'm not saying people should not express concerns but I would expect come game day you will be pulling for McFadden and Randle as well as another RB they may or may not get.
This deal with Jackson, I would have no problem had Dallas signed him but they did not want a 30 something RB and said as much. They may look to a younger back they have information on from scouting who they feel fits in with what they want to do. They may feel as if better option will be out there as teams make tough cuts to 53 we don't know.
 

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Of course not, I'm not saying people should not express concerns but I would expect come game day you will be pulling for McFadden and Randle as well as another RB they may or may not get.

You know it. I can disagree, but that doesn't mean I would ever hope for the team to fail. I hope McFadden or Randle lead the league in rushing and make the Joneses look like geniuses.

This deal with Jackson, I would have no problem had Dallas signed him but they did not want a 30 something RB and said as much. They may look to a younger back they have information on from scouting who they feel fits in with what they want to do. They may feel as if better option will be out there as teams make tough cuts to 53 we don't know.

it sure seems that way.
 

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Yeah, they're infallible and totally beyond reproach...

And yet, we're still looking at Brandon Weeden and Dustin Vaughan as the backup QB's.

Beyond reproach I say!

The only thing "goofy" is blindly following anything and everything the team says and does.

again, the awesome example of a knucklehead fan who thinks they know better than the team coming off 12 wins what it takes to win games.
good job, good effort.

the team is hardly infallible but the fan base is so painfully seldom correct as to it being more akin to a miracle.
 

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Neither. You're misunderstanding the argument and confusing the importance of a running game and the importance of an effective running game. And maybe under valuing the role of blocking in the process too.

We've got the players in place to get into the downs and distances we need for Tony Romo to keep converting. We like our top three backs for this purpose. That's been evident since the draft, and it's not going to change.

Ok
I guess we'll wait and see
I hope that our running game is effective otherwise we are in trouble
 

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again, the awesome example of a knucklehead fan who thinks they know better than the team coming off 12 wins what it takes to win games.
good job, good effort.

As compared to the sanctimonious know-it-all who knew for a fact that there was "no chance" the Cowboys could ever sign La'El Collins. Good job, great effort.

the team is hardly infallible but the fan base is so painfully seldom correct as to it being more akin to a miracle.

Definitely, especially when they speak in absolutes, like "there's no way this team is signing La'El Collins".

:lmao:
 

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Ok
I guess we'll wait and see
I hope that our running game is effective otherwise we are in trouble

We'll see, as you say. One, I think it's going to be effective enough, because we block well and put a lot of pressure on defenses with our weapons in the passing game. Two, Even if we're not effective in the running game, as long as we can pass protect, we're good enough to keep the chains moving with the passing game alone. We've seen that for years already.

What I really think is going to happen, though, is you're going to see a modernized version of what we did in the 90's, where we convert early by taking advantage of matchups with the RBs, TEs, and WRs who can legitimately play in multiple positions. Two TE sets where a TE splits out and you end up with a LB covering him or Beasley in the slot. Or splitting Dunbar out when they're playing run and throwing at it. We'll get leads early, apply a lot more pressure than we could last year along the DL, get up by two or more scores, and then run it with the athletic line taking advantage of the ZBS. That can be Randle just taking what's there behind the blockers--which he's good at--or McFadden stretching the defense and then exploding upfield when the DL is tired later in games.

Either way, as long as we pass protect, I see no reason why that won't be effective. Where we had trouble in the past is that we could score points relying heavily on the passing offense, but we couldn't keep teams from doing the same because the defensive personnel was awful (and thin). So it kept us passing aggressively all game long, which eventually led to low-percentage football. It's why we beat bad teams and lost to good ones. But with a good DL rotation with good players, there's looking like there's going to be a lot less time to throw it this year. We're already good at taking the ball away, and ought to be better at that with more pressure, too. When you're up on teams like that and they have to throw to keep up, good things happen eventually.

Anyway, that's why I'm not worried too much about the RBs. And the versatility is why I don't think we're looking to replace Dunbar on the roster. Coaches love him because of what they think they can do with him in the passing game, and we haven't seen it yet because we haven't been able to get him on the field and because they're not going to do anything exotic in preseason, but that doesn't mean that Linehan and Garrett don't have ideas how to use him.

So, if we believe we're not carrying four RBs--and I don't think there's any way we're carrying four RBs on the active roster--then anybody we pick up necessarily goes on the practice squad, or has to beat out Dunbar or McFadden in terms of both their big play ability and their schematic value. And I just don't think a guy like that is going to shake loose. What might shake loose is a solid all around RB who is young and who plays ST and who would be more likely to stay healthy. Somebody better than Gus that we can stash on the PS in case any of the top 3 backs go down during the season.
 

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Of course not, I'm not saying people should not express concerns but I would expect come game day you will be pulling for McFadden and Randle as well as another RB they may or may not get.
This deal with Jackson, I would have no problem had Dallas signed him but they did not want a 30 something RB and said as much. They may look to a younger back they have information on from scouting who they feel fits in with what they want to do. They may feel as if better option will be out there as teams make tough cuts to 53 we don't know.

The thing keeps being repeated because the off-season is a process.

We have FA, then the Draft, then mini-camps and everyone says 'the team isn't set yet'

Then we have camp, pre-season and cuts and still , no changes.

We did nothing to improve at RB since we signed a washed out Darren McFadden. OAK wanted nothing to do with him and even brought in Trent Richardson over him.

We turned a huge potential strength into a giant question mark.

The OL is great, so is Romo and Hardy, Dez got his deal, we had a great draft but we still got some re-treads on our Cadillac.
 

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The thing keeps being repeated because the off-season is a process.

We have FA, then the Draft, then mini-camps and everyone says 'the team isn't set yet'

Then we have camp, pre-season and cuts and still , no changes.

We did nothing to improve at RB since we signed a washed out Darren McFadden. OAK wanted nothing to do with him and even brought in Trent Richardson over him.

We turned a huge potential strength into a giant question mark.

The OL is great, so is Romo and Hardy, Dez got his deal, we had a great draft but we still got some re-treads on our Cadillac.

Cowboys evidently feel different about McFadden. I'm concerned over his injury history I also think the guy has the talent and skill to produce if he can remain healthy
 

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Cowboys evidently feel different about McFadden. I'm concerned over his injury history I also think the guy has the talent and skill to produce if he can remain healthy

Why? He never has.

Rule #1 I learned through Fantasy Football is that a player doesn't automatically become better because he is now on my team. If you consistently take chances you will be burned more often than not. People always tout their sleepers but they forget to claim the dozen misses.
 

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We'll see, as you say. One, I think it's going to be effective enough, because we block well and put a lot of pressure on defenses with our weapons in the passing game. Two, Even if we're not effective in the running game, as long as we can pass protect, we're good enough to keep the chains moving with the passing game alone. We've seen that for years already.
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See, this is what I mean when I say that you have a blind spot for the value of an effective running game

Those "years" where we have seen what you suggest ended in 8-8 and I'm not interested in going back there
 

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Why? He never has.

He has had a couple of season of over 5 ypc and as well as 80 plus yards a game avg. He has also played for a very poor team in Oakland. I don't know what McFadden will do again his injuries concern me but I think if he can stay healthy he will produce
 

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See, this is what I mean when I say that you have a blind spot for the value of an effective running game

Those "years" where we have seen what you suggest ended in 8-8 and I'm not interested in going back there

Neither am I. But we weren't back there because of the running game. We were back there because of a bottom-of-the-league defense. And our defense didn't improve because of our running game. It improved because we've got a better coordinator and we've been (gradually) adding better players.

I do agree that the play calling mix has helped the passing game be more effective, though. At least last year, Romo was able to cut down on mistakes throwing the ball by running it more often. I'm happy to see that continue if it gets the same passing game result. I just don't think which back we have back there matters all that much when it comes to play calling. We may not get as many 'dirty yards' on the ground, but our passing game is strong enough to still convert and keep moving the chains.
 
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