Clabo or Winston which is the right choice ?

[RoyTheHammer]

Exactly, if he could not play RT, or even if he could, I would probably move him to LT and return Smith to RT, his natural position. That would be pretty sweet. That would also help the interior line because Albert can also play LG. In fact, he would be the best LG we have on the team the minute he stepped on the field. Doesn't matter, I don't see it happening but if it could, that would be a move that would pay huge dividends IMO.

Agreed, if we could keep it in the 6 to 7 million range.

 

[curboys]

Assuming that KC is interested... I'd trade Spencer for Albert in a heart beat.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Clabo or Eric Winston which is the right choice for the Cowboys and why ?

clabo and its not even close. justice is probably worse than free at this point in his career. clabo gave up 3 sacks last year, all in the same game.

 

[Idgit]

Exactly, if he could not play RT, or even if he could, I would probably move him to LT and return Smith to RT, his natural position. That would be pretty sweet. That would also help the interior line because Albert can also play LG. In fact, he would be the best LG we have on the team the minute he stepped on the field. Doesn't matter, I don't see it happening but if it could, that would be a move that would pay huge dividends IMO.

That has you giving up a 2 for basically one year of access to the player. You're still going to have to sign him to a market-rate contract. You can do something similar in FA most offseasons without giving up a pick if you have the cap room to do it. The problem is, we don't have the cap room.

I'm much more comfortable rolling the dice on a guy you've been developing and trying to backfill that with an experienced veteran someplace. I'd hate coughing up a high pick and then committing a big salary for another team's premium player when we've got a young guy we like we're trying to get into the lineup.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Assuming that KC is interested... I'd trade Spencer for Albert in a heart beat.

I would too but I don't know that KC would be interested in that. They need to have cap space to sign Donald Stevenson, the RT prospect they really, really like and also sign an immediate replacement for Albert. I don't know that they would be interested in taking on Spencer's contract because the only reason they are trying to move Albert is because they have a lot of cap already invested in the OL and they are about to invest more with the addition of Fisher.

Defensively, they don't really need Spencer. They arguably have better OLBs on the team already in Tamba Hali and Justin Houston.

 

[reddyuta]

doug free-42 pressures , 7 sacks , 13 killer penalties(the worse red zone offender ever)

eric winston-3 sacks

Parnell right now is way better than Free(in terms of stats too). we just need another tackle to be his backup.

 

[03EBZ06]

Do you have the link for this? I would be interested in reading that.

Free’s base salary of $7 million would make him the highest-paid right tackle in the league in 2013. Tyson Clabo (31 years old) would reportedly be available at around $4 million, Eric Winston's (29) going rate is probably around $3 million and Winston Justice (28) is probably in the same ballpark. It's safe to assume Doug Free (29) would not make more than those $3-4 million, if that, with another team.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013...mckinnie-ravens-market-right-tackle-doug-free

 

[RoyTheHammer]

That has you giving up a 2 for basically one year of access to the player. You're still going to have to sign him to a market-rate contract. You can do something similar in FA most offseasons without giving up a pick if you have the cap room to do it. The problem is, we don't have the cap room.

I'm much more comfortable rolling the dice on a guy you've been developing and trying to backfill that with an experienced veteran someplace. I'd hate coughing up a high pick and then committing a big salary for another team's premium player when we've got a young guy we like we're trying to get into the lineup.

Im all for developing our young players too, but like ABQ said, Albert is a young guy that could come to this team and on day 1 be the best OG that we have. So even if Parnell steps up in preseason, we can pencil in Albert at an OG position and still be in much better shape than we'd be without him. If we could get him for a 2nd round pick and he'd agree to a ltd worth 6 or 7 million a season, it'd have to be a no brainer you would think.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013...mckinnie-ravens-market-right-tackle-doug-free

It's a Blog so I really don't know how much you can put into that but if true, that would certainly go a long way in helping the Cowboys to land Clabo.

 

[jjktkk]

The only downside for me would be do you pay a guy that much money who's never played a down at RT? Or would you move Smith back to right tackle where he dominated in his rookie year?

IIRC, Albert said pretty recently that he won't move to RT. I believe he was responding to the Chiefs drafting a LT. This was prior to the draft, maybe a month ago. Can't remember where I read this.

 

[DBOY3141]

IIRC, Albert said pretty recently that he won't move to RT. I believe he was responding to the Chiefs drafting a LT. This was prior to the draft, maybe a month ago. Can't remember where I read this.

Players say these things all the time in the spring and early summer. KC did not draft Fisher to play RT. He may this year, but not next. Albert will either be traded or signed long term to play RT.

I think KC would take a 3rd to get rid of him. I'm sure he has annoyed Reid to all ends with his "me" first attitude.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Players say these things all the time in the spring and early summer. KC did not draft Fisher to play RT. He may this year, but not next. Albert will either be traded or signed long term to play RT.

I think KC would take a 3rd to get rid of him. I'm sure he has annoyed Reid to all ends with his "me" first attitude.

Seriously, I don't think there is any way that KC will sign him long term. They don't have the cap to do it.

 

[Miller]

I go Clabo. I watched Winston with the Texans. I found him serviceable in their ZBS but once with Chiefs he went down. This is picky but I also think Winston is a media *****. Guy was all over the airwaves daily defending their play, talking a big game, writing for Peter King. I'm not a Texans fan but I know many just wanted him to be quiet and play. I like what I did see from Clabo.

 

[CATCH17]

Albert & Clabo make us a legit Superbowl contender but there is no way we would spend that kind of money on O-line.

 

[jjktkk]

Just listened to Andy Reid on ESPN Live, said that Eric Fisher will play RT, and Albert will play LT this season.

 

[visionary]

You can do something similar in FA most offseasons without giving up a pick if you have the cap room to do it. The problem is, we don't have the cap room.

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not sure where you are getting this because you are clearly wrong

we should be able to sign who we want if we want to

this is what stephen jones said...


"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."

Stephen Jones on salary cap limitations​

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Just listened to Andy Reid on ESPN Live, said that Eric Fisher will play RT, and Albert will play LT this season.

I'll believe it when Albert is signed long term. Right now, the Chiefs have about 3 million in cap space and they need at least 7 to get the rest of their signings done. Now, they could probably figure out ways to free up some space but unless they sign Albert long term, they are going to be right back in the same situation next year but with escalating contracts. They will get some relief on Hali's contract next year of about 4 million but even so, they have some good young players that they are going to have to extend. If they wait to trade Albert, they will likely get very little for him next year and his salary will definitely go up from the 9 million they have to pay him to keep him this year. I don't really see it but it could happen I guess.

 

[LarryCanadian]

If Clabo is a solid upgrade and would sign a 2 year deal, you save $7 Million by cutting Free June 1st, so "no brainer" to me......

Not sure he'll sign a 2 year deal here, if other teams offer him big long term deals though - he's visited a couple teams in last few days.

We could REALLY use a solid RT to challenge Parnell, AND if he can play a bit of guard, well that is darn good insurance as well!

Biggest need on team still is RT, and I like Parnell more than most too. I think the guy needs reps is all, BUT, not at expense of Romo's health this year!

 

[SportsGuru80]

Clabo of course... Winston is only a slightly better version of Doug Free honestly.

 

[Idgit]

not sure where you are getting this because you are clearly wrong

we should be able to sign who we want if we want to

this is what stephen jones said...

"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."

Stephen Jones on salary cap limitations​

You think this, because, as I always tell you, context matters, and you never keep anything you choose to believe in context. You're pulling a quote from Stephen Jones from back in January. And some fairly significant things have changed since January relative to our salary cap.

Here's a simliar quote from the same person from draft weekend:

Jones: "We have a good feel for what that number is going to be. That goes without saying, we’re going to sign our picks and do our job in college free agency. I said today, I think it’s going to be real important to play these young guys. We have some young guys coming off injuries from last year’s draft that didn’t necessarily get a good look because they missed a lot of camp and that type of thing. Those guys have to step up and play, and we have to play who we draft this year. We used to call them and still do, progress stoppers, when you sign these veterans for $1-1.5 million, and that is a luxury we’re not going to have this year. In a way, I think that’s good for us. I think we do have to get some of these young guys on the field and playing.”

http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sports/...gn-progress-stoppers-could-be-good-for-us.ece