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[ABQCOWBOY]

By the way, I mentor two kids and put in a four-hour shift at a food pantry in the Metroplex and help repair playground equipment at schools in poor parts of town. I have little time for celebrity worship.

Yet there seems to be plenty of time to lay the wood to anybody who would try and be respectful to Taylor and the Skins.

Sad that it's such a sticking point for you. I applaud your efforts but I'm at a loss as to why it's so difficult for you to let people express there condolences.

For me, this is really not about football. For me, it's about a sad series of events.

For me, this is really what it's about.

Let it go.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Aw man, she's adorable.

 

[smarta5150]

Oh, the humanity.
All this outpouring of self-serving grief is touching.
We shall go forward, then, applauding crunching bone-smashing hits on Sundays (and Thursdays), trading insults with Skins and Eagles fans and then shedding untold alligator tears when someone in another state meets his maker.
Pal, shed those tears for the less fortunate in your own backyard.
dry those tears and roll up your sleeves and work for your community to save some underprivileged kid or help some family who can't pay their mortgage.
That is compassion, not self-serving tears and alms and accolades for someone you never met and who probably would give you the finger because you wore the star.

I and many other fans were horrified this shooting could happen. And more horrified that it happens every day in every city in every state. Yet, we don't stop the world and shed tears and shroud our homes in dark maroon or Eagles green when things like this happen. We go on and take care of our own.
Where is the daily handwringing of kids being blown apart or bystepped by an uncaring system that caters to the rich and powerful and ones with great attorneys?
Get a sense of proportion.
You are like the knee-jerk who shows up at the vigil with a candle in his hand and all dewey-eyed over someone you never met (Princes Di or Kurt Cobain) but bypass the red kettle or think 10% is all you owe as a tithe. Yes, ignore the food pantries in your hometown and pass by that homeless person and shrug your shoulders when a soldier is cut down in a foreign land.
Yet, you and others rush to the altar of the rich and famous.
Let your neighbors eat cake, but boy, if youc an get the spotlight on you holding that candle, then celebrity worship is jus all right with you.

By the way, I mentor two kids and put in a four-hour shift at a food pantry in the Metroplex and help repair playground equipment at schools in poor parts of town. I have little time for celebrity worship.

Go in peace. Serve your fellow man and enough with the sappiness and this I-can-outgrieve-you mentality.

Oh really? But you have time to type 371 words flaming someone on an internet forum?

PS. That was 16-words and it cuts deeper.

 

[ethiostar]

The background and the icon are nice.
But I have to wonder, why?
Seems it's just self-serving, as in "aren't we sensitive and great?"

Oh, the humanity.
All this outpouring of self-serving grief is touching.
We shall go forward, then, applauding crunching bone-smashing hits on Sundays (and Thursdays), trading insults with Skins and Eagles fans and then shedding untold alligator tears when someone in another state meets his maker.
Pal, shed those tears for the less fortunate in your own backyard.
dry those tears and roll up your sleeves and work for your community to save some underprivileged kid or help some family who can't pay their mortgage.
That is compassion, not self-serving tears and alms and accolades for someone you never met and who probably would give you the finger because you wore the star.

I and many other fans were horrified this shooting could happen. And more horrified that it happens every day in every city in every state. Yet, we don't stop the world and shed tears and shroud our homes in dark maroon or Eagles green when things like this happen. We go on and take care of our own.
Where is the daily handwringing of kids being blown apart or bystepped by an uncaring system that caters to the rich and powerful and ones with great attorneys?
Get a sense of proportion.
You are like the knee-jerk who shows up at the vigil with a candle in his hand and all dewey-eyed over someone you never met (Princes Di or Kurt Cobain) but bypass the red kettle or think 10% is all you owe as a tithe. Yes, ignore the food pantries in your hometown and pass by that homeless person and shrug your shoulders when a soldier is cut down in a foreign land.
Yet, you and others rush to the altar of the rich and famous.
Let your neighbors eat cake, but boy, if youc an get the spotlight on you holding that candle, then celebrity worship is jus all right with you.

By the way, I mentor two kids and put in a four-hour shift at a food pantry in the Metroplex and help repair playground equipment at schools in poor parts of town. I have little time for celebrity worship.

Go in peace. Serve your fellow man and enough with the sappiness and this I-can-outgrieve-you mentality.

Hmmmm.............. you were saying something about being self serving, claiming to be great and sensitive.

BTW, you don't know what i do with my time and energy, so don't start throwing this crap around. It's great you help kids that NEED help, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be saddened by any loss of life. It's not like the forum shot down for a couple of days or anything. The mods simply changed the COLOR of the background for the site, which i'm sure won't last long.

Save the righteous talk for another time and don't assume that you are the only one working in this world trying to help those who need it most.

 

[needforspeed]

Oh, the humanity.
All this outpouring of self-serving grief is touching.
We shall go forward, then, applauding crunching bone-smashing hits on Sundays (and Thursdays), trading insults with Skins and Eagles fans and then shedding untold alligator tears when someone in another state meets his maker.
Pal, shed those tears for the less fortunate in your own backyard.
dry those tears and roll up your sleeves and work for your community to save some underprivileged kid or help some family who can't pay their mortgage.
That is compassion, not self-serving tears and alms and accolades for someone you never met and who probably would give you the finger because you wore the star.

I and many other fans were horrified this shooting could happen. And more horrified that it happens every day in every city in every state. Yet, we don't stop the world and shed tears and shroud our homes in dark maroon or Eagles green when things like this happen. We go on and take care of our own.
Where is the daily handwringing of kids being blown apart or bystepped by an uncaring system that caters to the rich and powerful and ones with great attorneys?
Get a sense of proportion.
You are like the knee-jerk who shows up at the vigil with a candle in his hand and all dewey-eyed over someone you never met (Princes Di or Kurt Cobain) but bypass the red kettle or think 10% is all you owe as a tithe. Yes, ignore the food pantries in your hometown and pass by that homeless person and shrug your shoulders when a soldier is cut down in a foreign land.
Yet, you and others rush to the altar of the rich and famous.
Let your neighbors eat cake, but boy, if youc an get the spotlight on you holding that candle, then celebrity worship is jus all right with you.

By the way, I mentor two kids and put in a four-hour shift at a food pantry in the Metroplex and help repair playground equipment at schools in poor parts of town. I have little time for celebrity worship.

Go in peace. Serve your fellow man and enough with the sappiness and this I-can-outgrieve-you mentality.

*clears throat*"If you don't like the schtick, don't read it, Mother Teresa!"

 

[bbgun]

Oh, the humanity.
All this outpouring of self-serving grief is touching.
We shall go forward, then, applauding crunching bone-smashing hits on Sundays (and Thursdays), trading insults with Skins and Eagles fans and then shedding untold alligator tears when someone in another state meets his maker.
Pal, shed those tears for the less fortunate in your own backyard.
dry those tears and roll up your sleeves and work for your community to save some underprivileged kid or help some family who can't pay their mortgage.
That is compassion, not self-serving tears and alms and accolades for someone you never met and who probably would give you the finger because you wore the star.

I and many other fans were horrified this shooting could happen. And more horrified that it happens every day in every city in every state. Yet, we don't stop the world and shed tears and shroud our homes in dark maroon or Eagles green when things like this happen. We go on and take care of our own.
Where is the daily handwringing of kids being blown apart or bystepped by an uncaring system that caters to the rich and powerful and ones with great attorneys?
Get a sense of proportion.
You are like the knee-jerk who shows up at the vigil with a candle in his hand and all dewey-eyed over someone you never met (Princes Di or Kurt Cobain) but bypass the red kettle or think 10% is all you owe as a tithe. Yes, ignore the food pantries in your hometown and pass by that homeless person and shrug your shoulders when a soldier is cut down in a foreign land.
Yet, you and others rush to the altar of the rich and famous.
Let your neighbors eat cake, but boy, if youc an get the spotlight on you holding that candle, then celebrity worship is jus all right with you.

By the way, I mentor two kids and put in a four-hour shift at a food pantry in the Metroplex and help repair playground equipment at schools in poor parts of town. I have little time for celebrity worship.

Go in peace. Serve your fellow man and enough with the sappiness and this I-can-outgrieve-you mentality.

Yes, a lot of this is hypocritical, but another word for it is "manners." You needn't like someone to empathize with their situation or feel their pain.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

It might not have been eloquently written, but there is validity to the take.

People die every day, children lose their parents, parents lose their children. I agree for the most part we are nobodies except to the people who know us so our death does not seem as important. However, as a guy on radio said, since March 2003, 27000 black men have been murdered in the US. Taylor is just one.

It does get a bit much the way some go overboard over the deaths of celebrities while ignoring deaths of those around us. A few months back, two young boys in my building had to call 911 because their mom didn't wake up one morning. She died overnight in her sleep. There was no press over the issue but the death was no less tragic than Taylor's death. No one held a candle light vigil for her or made out like it was a huge loss for humanity. Most of who knew said, oh that's too bad, and then went on to yelling at the cab driver for cutting us off or getting mad our cable cut out on the game winning field goal.

Taylor's death while tragic, is no different than any other young person murdered or who dies earlier than we expect. He just happened to have a skill at balling but it doesn't mean he was a better person than anyone (nor worse for that matter).

It does seem that in today's society, especially with internet indignation all over the place, you cannot question if someone's "condolences" is over the top because you are branded cold, heartless or classless.

 

[smarta5150]

It might not have been eloquently written, but there is validity to the take.

People die every day, children lose their parents, parents lose their children. I agree for the most part we are nobodies except to the people who know us so our death does not seem as important. However, as a guy on radio said, since March 2003, 27000 black men have been murdered in the US. Taylor is just one.

It does get a bit much the way some go overboard over the deaths of celebrities while ignoring deaths of those around us. A few months back, two young boys in my building had to call 911 because their mom didn't wake up one morning. She died overnight in her sleep. There was no press over the issue but the death was no less tragic than Taylor's death. No one held a candle light vigil for her or made out like it was a huge loss for humanity. Most of who knew said, oh that's too bad, and then went on to yelling at the cab driver for cutting us off or getting mad our cable cut out on the game winning field goal.

Taylor's death while tragic, is no different than any other young person murdered or who dies earlier than we expect. He just happened to have a skill at balling but it doesn't mean he was a better person than anyone (nor worse for that matter).

It does seem that in today's society, especially with internet indignation all over the place, you cannot question if someone's "condolences" is over the top because you are branded cold, heartless or classless.

Who says everyone here ignores those deaths?

ST is getting noticed here because this is a FOOTBALL forum.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Who says everyone here ignores those deaths?

ST is getting noticed here because this is a FOOTBALL forum.

Please, do not insult my intelligence by making out that deaths of non celebrities treated the same way.

Face it, for most people who die, we don't even know or care they existed until they didn't.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Oh really? But you have time to type 371 words flaming someone on an internet forum?

PS. That was 16-words and it cuts deeper.

16 words without a coherent thought. I didn't get a sense of what in particular you were referring or relating to.
Btw: Count again. the number 371 was incorrect. So rush to your screen and count again.
And, um, glad you have so much time on your hands to count words.
I thought you'd be too busy weeping in your maroon jersey or sumptin.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It might not have been eloquently written, but there is validity to the take.

People die every day, children lose their parents, parents lose their children. I agree for the most part we are nobodies except to the people who know us so our death does not seem as important. However, as a guy on radio said, since March 2003, 27000 black men have been murdered in the US. Taylor is just one.

It does get a bit much the way some go overboard over the deaths of celebrities while ignoring deaths of those around us. A few months back, two young boys in my building had to call 911 because their mom didn't wake up one morning. She died overnight in her sleep. There was no press over the issue but the death was no less tragic than Taylor's death. No one held a candle light vigil for her or made out like it was a huge loss for humanity. Most of who knew said, oh that's too bad, and then went on to yelling at the cab driver for cutting us off or getting mad our cable cut out on the game winning field goal.

Taylor's death while tragic, is no different than any other young person murdered or who dies earlier than we expect. He just happened to have a skill at balling but it doesn't mean he was a better person than anyone (nor worse for that matter).

It does seem that in today's society, especially with internet indignation all over the place, you cannot question if someone's "condolences" is over the top because you are branded cold, heartless or classless.

You may choose to provide condolences to whatever extent you wish. If you do not wish to go to the lengths others do, then so be it. However, what purpose does it serve to try and admonish others for there decisions to decide what extent they wish to give condolences?

You may as well shout to the winds and complain that it has not snowed enough or perhaps that it has snowed too much. This is a pointless discussion as people will feel more towards certain things then they do towards others. Paying condolences is not about the person who died. It's about comforting the people that were left behind. I can not judge overly harsly on anybody who would show compassion over something like this. It is what makes them human and thou you might not agree, it is there decision as to what extent they wish to show there condolences.

 

[smarta5150]

Please, do not insult my intelligence by making out that deaths of non celebrities treated the same way.

Face it, for most people who die, we don't even know or care they existed until they didn't.

Please stop using the word "we."

From reading your most recent posts on this subject manner we are not even on the same planet in thinking. And no, its not because you are Canadian (not trying to be funny - I read your comment how some people treat or think of you different because you are from up North, or however you worded it).

Everyday I watch the news or read the paper and see stories of murder and death. And you know what? Its usually just some average Joe and you also know what? I feel bad for a moment. I feel sad thinking about it. Just because I don't run onto the web and post it in the OT doesn't mean I ignored it.

 

[smarta5150]

I have little time for celebrity worship.

You said this in your 371 word response.

Kind of contradicting, don't you think.

16 words without a coherent thought. I didn't get a sense of what in particular you were referring or relating to.
Btw: Count again. the number 371 was incorrect. So rush to your screen and count again.
And, um, glad you have so much time on your hands to count words.
I thought you'd be too busy weeping in your maroon jersey or sumptin.

Its called word count. Funny you actually counted each word individually.

Its even funnier that you had time to do this since you are so busy helping the needy and recycling your sandals.

 

[ethiostar]

It might not have been eloquently written, but there is validity to the take.

People die every day, children lose their parents, parents lose their children. I agree for the most part we are nobodies except to the people who know us so our death does not seem as important. However, as a guy on radio said, since March 2003, 27000 black men have been murdered in the US. Taylor is just one.

It does get a bit much the way some go overboard over the deaths of celebrities while ignoring deaths of those around us. A few months back, two young boys in my building had to call 911 because their mom didn't wake up one morning. She died overnight in her sleep. There was no press over the issue but the death was no less tragic than Taylor's death. No one held a candle light vigil for her or made out like it was a huge loss for humanity. Most of who knew said, oh that's too bad, and then went on to yelling at the cab driver for cutting us off or getting mad our cable cut out on the game winning field goal.

Taylor's death while tragic, is no different than any other young person murdered or who dies earlier than we expect. He just happened to have a skill at balling but it doesn't mean he was a better person than anyone (nor worse for that matter).

It does seem that in today's society, especially with internet indignation all over the place, you cannot question if someone's "condolences" is over the top because you are branded cold, heartless or classless.

You are absolutely right in that his life was cut short just like thousands of other young people (black, white, brown, etc.....), not just in the US but all over the world. However, and at the risk of sounding too cold, we don't know them most of them. That doesn't mean that thier lives are worth any less than Taylor's, just that they haven't been a part of our lives for one reason or another. In Taylor's case, as football fans and Cowboy fans in particular, we have followed his career closely for the past 3 or four years so he has been in our lives in some capacity. It has nothing to do with celebrity worship.

I, personally am saddened by the loss of any life. Taylor was not just a famous athlete, he was a father and a son to some folks.

 

[Mansta54]

if it is as idiotic as the 1% that we can understand read, then its not worth it.

I cant see why anyone would make such a ignorant post!

Yes, IGNORANT it was..... Unbelievable!!!!!

 

[BrassCowboy]

For anybody to come on here and complain that something is over kill in regards to what colors and tributes are being shown to honor of a fallen player is rediculous. The man was killed in a sensless act I for one hate everything there is about that franchise but this is bigger than a rivalry and football. this is still a cowboys message board and your still able to go about your business in regards to posting cowboy stuff but dont critique a wonderful gesture that the mods have done for the man.

You said it 100% right....

I do not understand how hard it is to understand that this has nothing to do with football, it has everything to do with a man with children and wife (girlfriend) who was killed in a senseless manner. To those that bask in their ignorance, they only know him only as a rival's football player, but to most people he is much much more. Any sane person would step back and see how tragic Taylor's death is and any kind of memorial, recognition, or whatever is the right thing to do.

 

[Mansta54]

Yet there seems to be plenty of time to lay the wood to anybody who would try and be respectful to Taylor and the Skins.

Sad that it's such a sticking point for you. I applaud your efforts but I'm at a loss as to why it's so difficult for you to let people express there condolences.

For me, this is really not about football. For me, it's about a sad series of events.

For me, this is really what it's about.

Let it go.

This pic makes me smile and cry at the same time. I'm a single parent of a lil girl and she's my entire world. I know what I mean to my lil girl and it's awful that this beautiful lil girl won't get to be raised by her father. It's a damn shame!!!

 

[calico]

Its about respect. I personally hate the Commanders, but i also respect them and their histroy. That is apart of the rivalry. I don't respect the eagles or their fans...

Its all about paying respect for a man who was murdered, it has nothing to do with team.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

You said it 100% right....

I do not understand how hard it is to understand that this has nothing to do with football, it has everything to do with a man with children and wife (girlfriend) who was killed in a senseless manner. To those that bask in their ignorance, they only know him only as a rival's football player, but to most people he is much much more. Any sane person would step back and see how tragic Taylor's death is and any kind of memorial, recognition, or whatever is the right thing to do.

Excuse me, but to just about everyone who posts here, he was just a football player. As has been pointed out, he is only being "honoured" here because he is a football player. Hell many here who are now pouring out condolences and saying what a great man he was were calling him a thug and loser not 72 hours ago.

He is not much more to most people. If he didn't play football, you would not even know he existed.

 

[smarta5150]

Excuse me, but to just about everyone who posts here, he was just a football player. As has been pointed out, he is only being "honoured" here because he is a football player. Hell many here who are now pouring out condolences and saying what a great man he was were calling him a thug and loser not 72 hours ago.

He is not much more to most people. If he didn't play football, you would not even know he existed.

BUT he did play football and this is a FOOTBALL FORUM.

If you don't wanna read about ST then go on a "Healthy Eating" forum or something.