Clemons fined 5k for cheapshot on Romo

[DFWJC]

(Hercules might have screwed up last year, but his crew is better than most). You have to make a big deal of this on the field and later in the week to the league - if you work it right, it buys calls later on.

Hochuli threw a possible history changing (and totally unfounded) flag on Chris Johnson's 62 yard touchdown run the last game of the season. CJ was 30 yards down the filed when Hoch threw that flag for what everyone is saying was a totally phantom holding call. With 8 minutes to go, Johnson very well may have broken Dickerson's record. Oh well. Sometimes the guys can't help leave a fingerprint on the game.

 

[gimmesix]

I don't think so. The players, coaches are not looking for a penalty. That is what they pay the refs for.

The funny thing is that the media barely mentioned it. When they did mentioned it, it was in regards to how stupid Wade was to leave him in after the late hit.

I agree that there is no good excuse for the officials missing it. I just think because the hit was so late and because it was sort of a sneaky shot, they didn't see it.

I do agree on the media. They get all over Adams for being a cheap player for tripping, but have largely ignored a cheap shot that hurt our quarterback.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'll go find the numbers, the last time I saw something worked up on it was late in the 2007 season. I've seen nothing since then to change what the research showed.

As for your other comment, if we had a "f you" smiley, you'd get it.

:laugh2:harsh, man

I was under the impression that homers were a nice, jovial bunch?

 

[dbair1967]

I agree that there is no good excuse for the officials missing it. I just think because the hit was so late and because it was sort of a sneaky shot, they didn't see it.

I do agree on the media. They get all over Adams for being a cheap player for tripping, but have largely ignored a cheap shot that hurt our quarterback.

I havent seen it mentioned once since the game, maybe its been out there, but I havent seen it on ESPN or NFLN.

The official had to see it, the guy behind the QB is there for basically two things, holding and roughing the QB. There's no way he "missed" it, the guy just chose not to call it.

 

[dbair1967]

:laugh2:harsh, man

I was under the impression that homers were a nice, jovial bunch?

:laugh2:

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I do agree on the media. They get all over Adams for being a cheap player for tripping, but have largely ignored a cheap shot that hurt our quarterback.

Yeah, I meant to mention that. We have the media and even our own fans calling for Flozell to be benched because he pushes Tuck in the back, while this hit that was 100x worse goes virtually unmentioned.

Truly unbelievable.

 

[EPL0c0]

When will the league realize that 5K to these guys is literally like pocket change to us?

should be a game check. That'll make some players really wise up.

League Minimum is what, $350,000? That's a fine of almost $22,000 for that guy.

Clemmons signed a 5yr $12mil contract. He's slated to make $1,000,000 in 2009. A game check would be $62,500. $5,000 represents 0.005% of his salary this year (my math sucks so bad)

 

[gimmesix]

I havent seen it mentioned once since the game, maybe its been out there, but I havent seen it on ESPN or NFLN.

The official had to see it, the guy behind the QB is there for basically two things, holding and roughing the QB. There's no way he "missed" it, the guy just chose not to call it.

I have trouble buying into an official choosing not to call something he knows is a penalty. I do believe the Cowboys don't get the same calls other teams do, but I don't think it is because officials give the other teams preferential treatment.

I think the official just missed the hit. It happens.

Now, I do believe that when you get a reputation as a penalty-prone team, the officials are bound to watch you closer than they do teams that are less penalized. It makes it that much tougher to shake the reputation. (The best officials are those who go into games with a blank slate for each team, but I don't think there are many who do that.)

 

[gimmesix]

Yeah, I meant to mention that. We have the media and even our own fans calling for Flozell to be benched because he pushes Tuck in the back, while this hit that was 100x worse goes virtually unmentioned.

Truly unbelievable.

It's a bandwagon approach to controversy. Starts with the broadcasters of the game making a big deal of something. Then, the national and local media take up the torch and run with it.

ESPN's the worst about doing that, but it doesn't really need much help from the game's broadcasters. ESPN has enough talking heads to stir up plenty of controversy on its own, but it has to be something/someone they believe will bring them ratings.

 

[joseephuss]

I have trouble buying into an official choosing not to call something he knows is a penalty. I do believe the Cowboys don't get the same calls other teams do, but I don't think it is because officials give the other teams preferential treatment.

I think the official just missed the hit. It happens.

Now, I do believe that when you get a reputation as a penalty-prone team, the officials are bound to watch you closer than they do teams that are less penalized. It makes it that much tougher to shake the reputation. (The best officials are those who go into games with a blank slate for each team, but I don't think there are many who do that.)

I find it difficult to believe the ref missed the call at all. It happened in his line of sight. Even if his eyes were following the play, which was a pass out to the left side he had to look through Romo to see the flight of the ball. There was no excuse to not call a penalty in that situation. I think it was Flozell that turned to the ref and was gesturing WTH.

 

[dbair1967]

I have trouble buying into an official choosing not to call something he knows is a penalty. I do believe the Cowboys don't get the same calls other teams do, but I don't think it is because officials give the other teams preferential treatment.

I think the official just missed the hit. It happens.

Maybe somebody has the replay, but what was the ref doing if he doesnt see that? He's standing 10 feet away. I mean was he so distracted by the huge booger he was picking or something?

Now, I do believe that when you get a reputation as a penalty-prone team, the officials are bound to watch you closer than they do teams that are less penalized. It makes it that much tougher to shake the reputation. (The best officials are those who go into games with a blank slate for each team, but I don't think there are many who do that.

We're regarded as a penalty prone team, but Philly has the exact same number of penalites as we do, so shouldnt they be watching them the same?

 

[dbair1967]

I find it difficult to believe the ref missed the call at all. It happened in his line of sight. Even if his eyes were following the play, which was a pass out to the left side he had to look through Romo to see the flight of the ball. There was no excuse to not call a penalty in that situation. I think it was Flozell that turned to the ref and was gesturing WTH.

I kept waiting for Flo to go after the guy, I guarantee you the ref WOULD have seen that and a flag would have come out. Even though Flo would have been totaylly justified in rag dolling Clemons.

 

[Vtwin]

Weak? Brady gets that call even if a d-lineman breathes on him.

True.

And those calls are just as weak.

I hate to see this crap called in any game against any team. There is a huge difference between a shot to the head and the incidental brush of a face mask.

Automatic penalties stink.

 

[gimmesix]

I find it difficult to believe the ref missed the call at all. It happened in his line of sight. Even if his eyes were following the play, which was a pass out to the left side he had to look through Romo to see the flight of the ball. There was no excuse to not call a penalty in that situation. I think it was Flozell that turned to the ref and was gesturing WTH.

I agree there is no excuse for it. If he didn't see it, it was because he wasn't doing his job. I can believe that happens, that officials just assume a play is over and stop paying close attention or get caught up in the action away from where they are supposed to be watching.

Based on an article I wrote years ago, I know the league office goes over in detail with officials what they did wrong in games. Because it continues to be a problem, I think they need to try a different tack to hold officials accountable.

 

[gimmesix]

Maybe somebody has the replay, but what was the ref doing if he doesnt see that? He's standing 10 feet away. I mean was he so distracted by the huge booger he was picking or something?

I don't know. I just don't buy into any conspiracy that the official purposely would not call a penalty against the other team. If he saw it for what it was, he would have called it. For some reason, he didn't.

Maybe he took his eyes off the QB. Maybe what he saw didn't look like much of a hit because of the position of Clemons' hands and the fact that he didn't charge into/plow over Romo.

They've got a lot of information to process quickly to make a call. He should have made it, and there's no excuse for him not making it, but I have trouble believing his reason would be because he didn't want to make the call.

 

[Cover 2]

Yeah, I meant to mention that. We have the media and even our own fans calling for Flozell to be benched because he pushes Tuck in the back, while this hit that was 100x worse goes virtually unmentioned.

Truly unbelievable.

The fans calling for Flozell to be benched probably have never played sports in their life.

 

[lurkercowboy]

It would be interesting to see a video of "judgement call" penalties called and uncalled, not only in Cowboy games but all over the league. Maybe then it would be clear. Maybe it is just our Cowboy bias that is making us think these things, but it just seems that the other teams get away with things on Dallas QBs that Cowboy defenders do not get away with doing.

Aikman got concussions left and right but I don't recall seeing many flags.

 

[Disturbed]

The Cowboys are a polarizing team...you either love or hate them...and yes, that means the refs as well -- they have an opinion regarding the Cowboys, and often I think they hate them. They use "judgement" calls all the time to kill a big play.

 

[Vertigo_17]

Wow - only $5K? You can get a bigger fine for a uniform violation

I guess no fine for Merriwether or whoever #50 is for blatantly touching/shoving the official into the pile, or was that just part of the game?

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Hmmm better late than never??