Didn't the year the Lions went 4-0 they had the worst record in the league lol? You want to see something in preseason. But I don't think its about win or loss. Its about seeing what you have. I become more worrisome when the first teamers don't do anything. But winning or losing the game or struggling with the 3rd or 4th teamers? Hard to get up about. We still have to remember this is preseason and its not a true indication of what's going on out there. You have some guys out there who are fighting for their life. You have some who are taking it easy so they don't get hurt. A true indication is when guys are playing meaningful football.