Coaching isn’t what’s going to put us over the hump

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Well now you have a QB that’s cap number will crush the surrounding talent.

That’s why you don’t pay solid QBs like they’re elite. Cowboys fans and management never learn.

oh, come on....this again. Dak's cap hit this year was 17M. next year is about 34M and can be reworked to be down about 20-25M....that's not going to crush us.

and plus I don't believe building through FA. it doesn't worked. it hasn't worked. it will not work. 99% of players worth it, won't hit the market since their teams will resign them. those who hit the market will be injured, old, head cases and over priced.

that's cheap excuse about his cap hit.

 

[glimmerman]

Talent is our best hope overcoming our dysfunctional and toxic organization.

And the best talent at the key positions , top offense and defense .

The closer we are to having the most Elite QB, best offense and defense the closer we will be to returning to a Super Bowl.

We need our O-Line fixed and DT. Fix the penalties and we would still be playing.

 

[nightrain]

A change in philosophy for both the offense and how the Cowboys handle their homegrown FAs will go a long way toward improving their competitive position.

1. Dak cannot be the feature of the offense. The Cowboys need to be a run first team and counter the run with play action and quick strike passing along with the legit threat of Dak to use his legs. Majority of QB snaps should be under center. Immediate and concerted effort to fortify the trenches on both sides of the ball.
2. Can't sign good players to big money. Gregory should not be paid like a top Edge Guy, he is not of that caliber. They need to take a hard look at players who have under performed their contract and think about getting out from under them. The dead number needs to be at a point under the annual salary where another decent player can be brought in on a one deal to fill the gap. (Cooper is a no brainer, Lawrence and Smith should get a look). Zeke does not qualify.

I read a lot about how bad the Cowboys OL is around here. There is at least one team playing Sunday with a much worse OL than the Cowboys. Of course having an elite QB can cover a lot warts on an offense.

The Cowboys have been good at drafting but terrible at churning the roster. They hold on to guys too long and can't resist overpaying to keep them.

 

[Diehardblues]

We need our O-Line fixed and DT. Fix the penalties and we would still be playing.

That’s a good start .

 

[Diehardblues]

it takes talent to win, but talent alone can't do it. you need the right coaching, right scheme and right game day managers (play callers, etc.) to get over the hump. and if jerry insists on meddling everywhere, then it will fall apart regardless of the talent.

and having that much talent will cost money, unless you hit on every draft pick, almost every round for several years in a row. next to impossible.

now, think back to Parcells, when he took a bunch of nobody's to 10-6, win the division and go to playoffs. they did fall short in the playoffs but that team had zero talent. you need some talent, but with the right coaching you can get over the hump.

That’s still possible of course just like in 1994. But without the talent just can’t see overcoming our dysfunctional and toxic culture.

 

[Diehardblues]

Lmao! We got more helicopters and yachts though and a star logo.

 

[IceStar-D7]

Talent is our best hope overcoming our dysfunctional and toxic organization.

And the best talent at the key positions , top offense and defense .

The closer we are to having the most Elite QB, best offense and defense the closer we will be to returning to a Super Bowl.

We had all that and still failed. Only Super Bowls Dallas ever won was with good talent and good coaches/coaching. Say it ain't so.......

 

[Diehardblues]

He can't stay away from a Chinese buffet.

Anyone who cooks and works in flip flops are nasty people. I’ve been in some of those Chinese kitchens . The worst .

 

[noshame]

That’s mere speculation . No one would have expected to go to Lambeau or Tampa and win , except for homers . Lol

No that's crap OL play, false starts, and a QB sitting ineffectively in a pocket. All this while insisting to run the 2nd best RB up the middle.
Genius coaching at its best

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

That’s still possible of course just like in 1994. But without the talent just can’t see overcoming our dysfunctional and toxic culture.

yeah, 1994 is the exception. although switzer sucked, we still had good coaching staff which included Zamese, butch davis, zimmer. we had the right scheme that came from the time johnson was there and players that had played together for a while. the talent was top heavy, but Aikman, Irvin and Smith were leaders in their own right.

you won't see that happen much, specially in day and age of FA

 

[RonnieT24]

I disagree vehemently with the entire premise that great coaching is not what will get this team to the promised land. We need look no further than the defensive turnaround from Mike Nolan to Dan Quinn to see the tangible impact a great coach can have. The simple fact is that the talent differential in the NFL is not nearly as people make it out to be and in the end it is almost always going to be coaching that makes the difference. Whether the right coach is already on staff (McCarthy) or someone else remains to be seen.. But there were about 5 or 6 moments over the course of this season that better coaching could have changed games.. and that's not even counting the 500 times when he who shall not be named refused to call a running play when the situation demanded it.

 

[Diehardblues]

We had all that and still failed. Only Super Bowls Dallas ever won was with good talent and good coaches/coaching. Say it ain't so.......

Yep

And why without the talent, coaching won’t be enough.

 

[Diehardblues]

yeah, 1994 is the exception. although switzer sucked, we still had good coaching staff which included Zamese, butch davis, zimmer. we had the right scheme that came from the time johnson was there and players that had played together for a while. the talent was top heavy, but Aikman, Irvin and Smith were leaders in their own right.

you won't see that happen much, specially in day and age of FA

We had FA then too. What we didn’t have was Salary Cap. Drafting has been become so critical this era.

2 or 3 good drafts back then and you could be set for 10 years . Now you can’t hang on to everyone after 4 or 5 years and you must draft well every year. Any off years drafting can set you back.

 

[Diehardblues]

I disagree vehemently with the entire premise that great coaching is not what will get this team to the promised land. We need look no further than the defensive turnaround from Mike Nolan to Dan Quinn to see the tangible impact a great coach can have. The simple fact is that the talent differential in the NFL is not nearly as people make it out to be and in the end it is almost always going to be coaching that makes the difference. Whether the right coach is already on staff (McCarthy) or someone else remains to be seen.. But there were about 5 or 6 moments over the course of this season that better coaching could have changed games.. and that's not even counting the 500 times when he who shall not be named refused to call a running play when the situation demanded it.

And what would Quinn have done without Parsons. And of course Diggs lightening up.

Coaching only takes you so far without the talent .

 

[RonnieT24]

And what would Quinn have done without Parsons. And of course Diggs lightening up.

Coaching only takes you so far without the talent .

My premise is that the talent is really already there.. and that an upgrade in coaching is more important (to this team) than an upgrade in talent. Aside from getting a beast to eat up blockers and push the pocket in the middle I don't think this team needs much of anything on defense.. Oh and it needs Joseph to take over for Brown at CB. But if you had kept Nolan or brought in an inferior coach to Nolan this season, it's a virtual certainty that the defense would not have made the strides it did this year. The guys did not adapt to whatever it was he was peddling.. Now MAYBE they get a little better in year two.. but a double digit jump in yards ranking and a leap of 20-some spots in scoring? No way.. that was about coaching..

 

[IceStar-D7]

We had FA then too. What we didn’t have was Salary Cap. Drafting has been become so critical this era.

2 or 3 good drafts back then and you could be set for 10 years . Now you can’t hang on to everyone after 4 or 5 years and you must draft well every year. Any off years drafting can set you back.

Stephen cheap azzzz. Is to cheap to go for a good one.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Talent is our best hope overcoming our dysfunctional and toxic organization.

And the best talent at the key positions , top offense and defense .

The closer we are to having the most Elite QB, best offense and defense the closer we will be to returning to a Super Bowl.

I would take Oline and Dline as our #1 need. If we can dominate the LOS and establish the run while being able to stop the run, we have ourselves a team.

Dak's slump started because the Oline went south and we couldn't run the ball. That made our offense one dimensional.

 

[Diehardblues]

My premise is that the talent is really already there.. and that an upgrade in coaching is more important (to this team) than an upgrade in talent. Aside from getting a beast to eat up blockers and push the pocket in the middle I don't think this team needs much of anything on defense.. Oh and it needs Joseph to take over for Brown at CB. But if you had kept Nolan or brought in an inferior coach to Nolan this season, it's a virtual certainty that the defense would not have made the strides it did this year. The guys did not adapt to whatever it was he was peddling.. Now MAYBE they get a little better in year two.. but a double digit jump in yards ranking and a leap of 20-some spots in scoring? No way.. that was about coaching..

Then you are basically taking Jethro’s stance that he believes we have enough talent to win a Super Bowl.

 

[Diehardblues]

We really have fans that think we could have hanged with Kansas City or Buffalo last weekend ?

 

[ESisback]

That’s mere speculation . No one would have expected to go to Lambeau or Tampa and win , except for homers . Lol

That’s mere speculation too. That’s all we do here.