Colin Cowherd: Comparing Purdy's situation to Dak

doomsday9084

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Let's just wait and see what Purdy makes. I bet it is at least $50M per season.
Pay attention to the years. A long contract allows a team to move money around in a way that creates a window. These 4 year deals Dak keeps taking really hamstring the team.

If Purdy gets 6 years $300m, that's a much better deal for the team than the 4/$240 that Dak took.
 

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If that is the case the all the teams with the best QB's will start losing. I don't see it happening.
I don’t know where you’re getting that. You’ll need to flesh your post out more clearly because my analogy to ‘09 housing market is to highlight the hyper-inflated price for a starting QB with a pulse just because they are a starter quality QB. The value in this current QB market is wildly uncorrelated and disconnected with a QB’s actual talent levels. How do you get that my analysis means teams with the best starting QBs are going to suck? Teams with Mahomes, Lamar, and Josh Allen, for example and who are actually elite QBs and far, far, far above Dak Prescott in talent, are still going to excel in the league’s current environment. It’s the teams with mid-tier QBs on second and third contracts that are going to mightily struggle to compete for a SB. As I posted above, we’ve had exactly two teams with mid-tier QBs on second and third contracts in this hyper-inflated QB market era put championship caliber squads on the field: ‘24/25 Detroit and Philly. Maybe this is a sign front offices are adapting to the new market paradigm with a reproducible and repeatable strategy that any front office can accomplish or maybe it is just an outlier to a mean that involved Philly and Detroit walking an improbable, thin, wobbly tightrope of good fortune coupled with savvy drafting/free agent signings. It’s too early to say imo.
 
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I completely agree with Chris Simms. I can’t remotely and adequately express how much I agree with him.

Purdy has implied he’s missing OTAs without a contract.

30 million or buh-bye!
 

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Pay attention to the years. A long contract allows a team to move money around in a way that creates a window. These 4 year deals Dak keeps taking really hamstring the team.

If Purdy gets 6 years $300m, that's a much better deal for the team than the 4/$240 that Dak took.
Spot on. That's my main concern with Dak's contract, how do you restructure in that 4 years, specially now when the whole of the restructure gets paid in one go...as he's not getting another contract.

The irony is that there's a decent chance that Dak hits FA in 2026, especially if he has another 2024 season in 2025.....someone will tell Jerry he can save $140m cash by cutting him.
 

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Spot on. That's my main concern with Dak's contract, how do you restructure in that 4 years, specially now when the whole of the restructure gets paid in one go...as he's not getting another contract.

The irony is that there's a decent chance that Dak hits FA in 2026, especially if he has another 2024 season in 2025.....someone will tell Jerry he can save $140m cash by cutting him.

You’re not the first person I’ve heard say this. I’m confused how Jerry saves that amount of money. Isn’t the contract mostly guaranteed?
 

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I don’t know where you’re getting that. You’ll need to flesh your post out more clearly because my analogy to ‘09 housing market is to highlight the hyper-inflated price for a starting QB with a pulse just because they are a starter quality QB. The value in this current QB market is wildly uncorrelated and disconnected with a QB’s actual talent levels. How do you get that my analysis means teams with the best starting QBs are going to suck? Teams with Mahomes, Lamar, and Josh Allen, for example and who are actually elite QBs and far, far, far above Dak Prescott in talent, are still going to excel in the league’s current environment. It’s the teams with mid-tier QBs on second and third contracts that are going to mightily struggle to compete for a SB. As I posted above, we’ve had exactly two teams with mid-tier QBs on second and third contracts in this hyper-inflated QB market era put championship caliber squads on the field: ‘24/25 Detroit and Philly. Maybe this is a sign front offices are adapting to the new market paradigm with a reproducible and repeatable strategy that any front office can accomplish or maybe it is just an outlier to a mean that involved Philly and Detroit walking an improbable, thin, wobbly tightrope of good fortune coupled with savvy drafting/free agent signings. It’s too early to say imo.
Chasing's one of those who's obsessed with a Franchise QB without evaluating what he actually brings as compared what's lost with the CAP% hit and whether you can build around him. Your mentioning Mahomes, Allen and Jackson need only be evaluated in that when you have one of those you're always within with a chance, with Dak, we trail, we tend to lose.
 

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You’re not the first person I’ve heard say this. I’m confused how Jerry saves that amount of money. Isn’t the contract mostly guaranteed?
No Guaranteed money from 2026 onwards. Though there are CAP implications....but a post June cut in 2026 leaves just $28m (CAP HIT in 2026) and $34m in 2027.....that's a saving of: $39m in 2026 CAP. and $27m in 2027.
 

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Gotcha. Thanks!
This is the real question to those fans who propose to be Cowboys/not Dak first fans...... if he stinks up the gaff again in 2025, would you consider cutting him, or continuing the Cap hits of: $67m (2026) $61m (2027) and $71m (2028) + the restructured CAP.
On the other hand, if Dak shows me he can improve his game and can overcome those anxiety/composure issues (progressions and Blueprint) i'll keep him around in 2026.
 

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Pay attention to the years. A long contract allows a team to move money around in a way that creates a window. These 4 year deals Dak keeps taking really hamstring the team.

If Purdy gets 6 years $300m, that's a much better deal for the team than the 4/$240 that Dak took.
Dak took our what GM Jethro gave him???
 

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This isn’t simple supply and demand. That’s far too reductive imo. This is a hyper-inflated market with a bulging bubble that needs to, and should, burst. Think 2009 United States real estate market.

The price for a starting QB is not corresponding or correlating to the actual talent level of a particular QB. In fact, the phrase “starting QB” is now synonymous with the phrase “franchise QB” and that didn’t use to be the case. Those two phrases used to mean very different things.
Hyper inflated markets are caused by a supply and demand problem.
 

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Purdy is a system quarterback and the 49ers have always given themselves options. Purdy simply doesn't have the type of leverage that Dak had.

Purdy either signs a very team-friendly contract or they go somewhere else.

The 49ers realize that Purdy is not the type of quarterback that can carry a team. The 49ers realize this unlike the Cowboys perception of Dak.

Dak really is a good quarterback if he stays within his abilities and manages the offense with a good running game.

Going into the season with a developing O-line, unsettled at RB and expecting the passing game to compensate was pure season suicide. When the Cowboys entire DE squad was injured after 4 weeks and Bland was unable to play the first half of the season, the defense was morbid. The defense only showed signs of life when Parsons came back and Overshown was healthy.

Sometimes we forget just how different other teams are when it comes to management. Their owner hires professionals. Jerry hires himself or anyone else genetically close.
A system QB, that fits their system. Not every QB fits their system.
 

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Don't be surprised when he is at $50M.
Of course I won’t be surprised. It’s expected given the hyper-inflated market. It’s not what should happen, however, if SF were truly concerned with sustainably maintaining their SB contention they have had over two of the last three years.
 
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Hyper inflated markets are caused by a supply and demand problem.
No. Hyper-inflated markets are not ONLY caused by a supply and demand problem. There are other variables that go into the creation of bubble markets from hyperinflation other than just reductive supply and demand. You act like this is a hostage situation.

I’d still like you to address your strange comment about “teams with the best QBs would start losing if this were true”.

What did you mean by that?
 

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Hyper inflated markets are caused by a supply and demand problem.
No, no,no....you still dont overpay for inferior good's. You find a Plan B. Indeed, 2016 showed what putting CAP into an O-Line can do for the rookie QB, or how much better Darnold and Wilson all of a sudden become when they play on such a low Cap% Hit.
 

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Of course I won’t be surprised. It’s expected given the hyper-inflated market. It’s not what should happen, however, if SF were truly concerned with sustainably maintaining their SB contention they have had over two of the last three years.
Yep, but Purdy has kind of shown some attributes that helped get them to a SB. I suppose it's well work the risk to give him a second contract. The difference with Dak, is: its a third contract, also hampered as it comes along with $40m of restructured CAP, and he was only able to get to a 1-4 play-off record and was a contributory factor in our play-off exits.
 

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With the caveat that Purdy has taken his team to 2 NFC Championships out of 3 years, and 1 Superbowl (that they probably should have won)

Dak hasn't even taken his team to a single NFC CG, with nearly 3 times as many seasons to accomplish that meager feat.

But yeah, Purdy needs to have a stacked team around him to win a SB...whereas Dak could have a stacked team and he still won't win anything.

I hope SF signs Purdy to a 5 yr 275mil contract....so that they won't have a juggernaut roster for years and years
 

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No, no,no....you still dont overpay for inferior good's. You find a Plan B. Indeed, 2016 showed what putting CAP into an O-Line can do for the rookie QB, or how much better Darnold and Wilson all of a sudden become when they play on such a low Cap% Hit.
Yes, yes, yes you do. A crap house in SF is is still a $1M+
 
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