Come Clean

[plasticman]

C'mon, How many of you insisted that Joseph Randle was the answer after Murray was signed away by the Eagles.

How many of you went for that whole "left meat on the bone" smack from Klepto Joe?

How many of you posted that Randle was going to help the Cowboys prove Murray was just an average back and it was all the offensive line by delivering favorable numbers. Nobody said a repeat of Murray's season, of course. But did you insist that he was going to be a successful element of the "RB by committee" approach this season?

If so, do you still believe it was a good idea to get rid of Murray? Do you feel as though McFadden can fill the void now that he's had a full season on the team?

I think everyone knows where I have always stood but so you don't think I consider myself a football oracle, just so you know I'm just looking for some fun, let me make this easier by revisiting other predictions I once made:

I predicted that Stephen McGee would be a great quarterback and if Romo was ever out an extended period of time with McGee as his backup, he might not get his job back.

I predicted that Bruce Carter would be the next Ken Norton.

I predicted that Escobar would have a breakout season in 2015.

See, it's easy. Come clean.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

I was one. I still believe Randle had the talent, he just didn't have the brain.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Randle still can be. We just need to mold him into a moonwalker like we did with John Travolta.

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[Rockport]

I don't get it.

 

[Zordon]

It doesn't really matter what we thought. We're just fans. We're not paid handsomely to make these types of decisions. What's disturbing is the people who spent time with him and had daily interactions with him felt he was a decent alternative. These same decision makers are the ones we're supposed to have faith in to get us to a Super Bowl in the next few years.

 

[plasticman]

Stephen McGee....LOL......but did you know that he didn't throw one single INT in regulation play in his NFL career?

Anyway......

 

[Sydla]

I was OK with the transition. I thought Murray would be overpaid and with the history of TBs falling off after the kind of season he had, I didn't want to be left holding a $6MM+ per year bag on a TB that was going down the wrong side of the hill.

And FWIW, I still believe they made the right choice long term.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

It doesn't really matter what we thought. We're just fans. We're not paid handsomely to make these types of decisions. What's disturbing is the people who spent time with him and had daily interactions with him felt he was a decent alternative. These same decision makers are the ones we're supposed to have faith in to get us to a Super Bowl in the next few years.

This same braintrust....up until about 2 months ago....was still making statements about Johnny Manziel. And it was the same braintrust that claimed we got a steal with Randy Gregory.

You make the point I am always making...we don't get PAID to make these decisions. So why should we EXCUSE the decision makers when their decisions go belly up? Of course no one is going to be perfect in their decision making....but when you make the right decision by drafting Zach Martin...and you are STILL talking about Manziel...there is all I need to know about how your brain works.

And here is the worst part for me...their are ZERO penalties for continuing to make bad decisions. The value of this franchise continues to go up....so why would this franchise overhaul the decision making "process"....when their are no repercussions for making bad decisions over and over and over and over......

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I don't think anyone really cared about Randle. I was one who said that our running game would be fine without 29. He was not that special. And I still stand by that. I do think from a talent stand point, JR would have been just fine running the ball. As fans, we can only go by talent, we don't have insight into their daily interactions with their coaches, teammates, etc and we don't really know of their commitment level. But the main premise was that our running game would be fine without 29 and it was.

 

[Zordon]

This same braintrust....up until about 2 months ago....was still making statements about Johnny Manziel. And it was the same braintrust that claimed we got a steal with Randy Gregory.

You make the point I am always making...we don't get PAID to make these decisions. So why should we EXCUSE the decision makers when their decisions go belly up? Of course no one is going to be perfect in their decision making....but when you make the right decision by drafting Zach Martin...and you are STILL talking about Manziel...there is all I need to know about how your brain works.

And here is the worst part for me...their are ZERO penalties for continuing to make bad decisions. The value of this franchise continues to go up....so why would this franchise overhaul the decision making "process"....when their are no repercussions for making bad decisions over and over and over and over......

This fanbase is sooo soft on Jerry Jones but cutthroat when it comes to criticizing fellow fans. I don't get it.

 

[Leadbelly]

I thought it was the right choice to not sign Murray, sign McFadden and roll with Randle. The only thing I wanted us to do that didn't happen was draft a RB.

So now it's 2016 and we still need a RB. Great plan Cowboys.

I'll also add that I was very interested to see Randle get more opportunities. He has talent.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Not me. I wanted him cut after that shoplifting incident.

 

[Supercowboy1986]

This fanbase is sooo soft on Jerry Jones but cutthroat when it comes to criticizing fellow fans. I don't get it.

Don't forget unintelligent as well.

 

[slick325]

I thought Randle would have had the season McFadden ended up having...over 1000yds rushing. I didn't factor in the full knucklehead mode Randle would go...lol

I still believe the team did the right thing not giving Murray the type of money Philly gave him.

I will also come clean in saying that I didn't think McFadden would be any good. Didn't think he could stay healthy and didn't think he had anything left even if he did stay healthy.

Edit: Although McFadden surprised me...I still want Dallas to draft a back by the 3rd round.

 

[Ashwynn]

I'll admit that I thought Randle would be ok behind this line. I also thought any one could run behind this line. It wasn't Randle that I put my faith in, so much as the Oline. I was crediting the line with Murrays tremendous success. I look back now and I'll revise that and say it was partly the Oline, partly Murrays talent. Dont know how much was the line and how much was murrays talent, but together they made the O go that year. McFadden had some success behind this line proving that a good back can have success behind this line. I dont think the O line was as impactful last year as they were in Murrays big year also, I think they regressed a little. I still think a better then average back would do really well behind this line, But I do believe that not just any back will do really well behind this line, we do need a talented back behind the line, But one thing I am sure of through all this, we need a QB that can make the defense think run OR pass. When everyone knows were running cause we cant throw, no Oline is going to look tremendous. We have to get a QB that can take over if Romo goes down and I think the Oline will become a lot better over night.

 

[Swanny]

C'mon, How many of you insisted that Joseph Randle was the answer after Murray was signed away by the Eagles.

How many of you went for that whole "left meat on the bone" smack from Klepto Joe?

How many of you posted that Randle was going to help the Cowboys prove Murray was just an average back and it was all the offensive line by delivering favorable numbers. Nobody said a repeat of Murray's season, of course. But did you insist that he was going to be a successful element of the "RB by committee" approach this season?

If so, do you still believe it was a good idea to get rid of Murray? Do you feel as though McFadden can fill the void now that he's had a full season on the team?

I think everyone knows where I have always stood but so you don't think I consider myself a football oracle, just so you know I'm just looking for some fun, let me make this easier by revisiting other predictions I once made:

I predicted that Stephen McGee would be a great quarterback and if Romo was ever out an extended period of time with McGee as his backup, he might not get his job back.

I predicted that Bruce Carter would be the next Ken Norton.

I predicted that Escobar would have a breakout season in 2015.

See, it's easy. Come clean.

- I hated the Mcfadden signing. I thought he was gonna be useless. he was a pleasant surprise
- I thought Randle would do just fine but not because I love Randle but because I think RB's are a dime a dozen
- I loved the Hardy signing. Still dont think it was a bad signing. I would keep him around ONLY if he came cheap however. He wont get a big contract with his attitude.
- Never thought Romo would amount to anything.
- I gave up on Sean Lee before this season. Happy to see him have a good kinda healthy season
- I thought Garrett was gonna be better than he is.
- I used to think Jerry realy could build a good roster. But he has proven he sucks at it.
- I loved the Brandon Carr signing and boy has that been terrible
- I hated the TO signing but couldn't help but cheer for him every TD he got. I fell in love with him with a star on his helmet. I am now back to hating him again.
- I too thought Bruce Carter woudl be incredible
- I am happy that the Boys let Murray walk. DO NOT SIGN any RB's to a big second contract. I would start a system of draft a RB run them into the ground let them walk when the contract expires then draft another one. And repeat this process forever. Unless you find a special back like AP, Emmitt Smith, Lynch, ETC
- I really thought Tony Dixon was gonna be a great Safety for us
- I still have dreams of Woddy Danztlers Kickoff return on the sideline.
- I thought Kenyon Rambo was gonna actually turn out to be a decent WR for us but that clearly didn't pan out

I feel like I could go on and on. I'll stop there

 

[CATCH17]

I think Randle the player would've done fine.

I don't feel like anyone got proved right or wrong because of character concerns that got him released.


Imo, Murray does have incredibly poor vision and fumbles. There is no way anyone should pay him 8 mill.


Also, we weren't replicating 1800 yards rushing with or without Murray.

 

[big dog cowboy]

C'mon, How many of you insisted that Joseph Randle was the answer after Murray was signed away by the Eagles.

I'll bet not many because it was going to be RBBC.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I was one of Murray's biggest supporters. I liked him when I first saw him.

However, 436 carries in a season of football made me apprehensive to re-sign Murray and I didn't want him at the price tag that the Eagles got him.

I wasn't pro-Randle. He ticked me off by not only shoplifting...but, by complaining to cops about him getting arrested while Dez didn't get arrested. That's behavior that revokes The Man Card.

I actually thought McFadden was going to start the season. I have been intrigued by DMC since his collegiate days and when I saw the contract, which essentially was pay-for-play, I was all for it. And I thought it was a good decision by the FO, take Randle and McFadden for less than 1/2 the price of what Murray was getting.

I didn't like what I saw out of Randle in the first game of the season outside of some nice catch and runs. By the third game of the season, I knew he was not the guy. He had a real problem with sticking to the play and running it up the crease. He was too scared to do so because he didn't have confidence in his power. I had been proclaiming on this very board that we should be starting DMC before then and there were a lot of Randle supporters that eschewed my wishes.

DMC finally became the starter and was a top-3 RB in the league in those games that he started. The problem was that I think guys like Randle helped create an environment where the inmates were running the asylum. And I can't imagine his teammates thought too highly of a guy that was still shoplifting and talking smack about Murray and now Dez. I think Hardy showing up late for practices (if true) is one thing...but backstabbing teammates and shoplifting when you're making NFL money creates bad morale.

I didn't see Randle as a 1,000+ yard runner. Said that a million times here. I just didn't think he was THAT big of a knucklehead. Of course, I can't imagine anybody that could have foreseen that.






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