Come Clean

[jazzcat22]

I think this may come clean to the rant zone eventually...

 

[DeaconMoss]

Not me. I wanted him cut after that shoplifting incident.

Yep. After the panty bandit struck I was done.

 

[Bleu Star]

C'mon, How many of you insisted that Joseph Randle was the answer after Murray was signed away by the Eagles.

How many of you went for that whole "left meat on the bone" smack from Klepto Joe?

How many of you posted that Randle was going to help the Cowboys prove Murray was just an average back and it was all the offensive line by delivering favorable numbers. Nobody said a repeat of Murray's season, of course. But did you insist that he was going to be a successful element of the "RB by committee" approach this season?

If so, do you still believe it was a good idea to get rid of Murray? Do you feel as though McFadden can fill the void now that he's had a full season on the team?

I think everyone knows where I have always stood but so you don't think I consider myself a football oracle, just so you know I'm just looking for some fun, let me make this easier by revisiting other predictions I once made:

I predicted that Stephen McGee would be a great quarterback and if Romo was ever out an extended period of time with McGee as his backup, he might not get his job back.

I predicted that Bruce Carter would be the next Ken Norton.

I predicted that Escobar would have a breakout season in 2015.

See, it's easy. Come clean.

They won't. . I already mentioned this in the other thread that is infiltrated with crickets. The humble pie will become stale waiting for this one. Guaranteed.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I thought we would be ok without Murray if we got a decent FA or we drafted a decent RB.

When the idea of McFadden was brought up (before we signed him) I think I said it was clown shoes insane.
When we did sign him I thought it was crazy but was hoping that he would just be a backup and we would draft a good RB.
When we did not draft a good RB, or any RB for that matter and stuck with Mcfadden...I thought it was crazy.
When we went through a number of RBs (whether FA or traded for them) and still stuck with McFadden I thought it was crazy.

When McFadden had a good year and people started saying we should eat humble pie and maybe he is ok as the starter I still thought it was crazy because
the year was clearly an anomaly for him concerning Injuries and production.

If we go again this year with no decent FA RB or Drafted RB and McFadden as our starting RB...we deserve what we get when he goes back to normal McFadden mode and has mutliple injuries and misses
a good deal of the season.

This had Nothing to deal with the underwear bandit IMO.

When he was drafted and they would not put him on the roster as a 3rd RB for most of the season, that said all I needed to know about him.

 

[Daillest88]

C'mon, How many of you insisted that Joseph Randle was the answer after Murray was signed away by the Eagles.

How many of you went for that whole "left meat on the bone" smack from Klepto Joe?

How many of you posted that Randle was going to help the Cowboys prove Murray was just an average back and it was all the offensive line by delivering favorable numbers. Nobody said a repeat of Murray's season, of course. But did you insist that he was going to be a successful element of the "RB by committee" approach this season?

If so, do you still believe it was a good idea to get rid of Murray? Do you feel as though McFadden can fill the void now that he's had a full season on the team?

I think everyone knows where I have always stood but so you don't think I consider myself a football oracle, just so you know I'm just looking for some fun, let me make this easier by revisiting other predictions I once made:

I predicted that Stephen McGee would be a great quarterback and if Romo was ever out an extended period of time with McGee as his backup, he might not get his job back.

I predicted that Bruce Carter would be the next Ken Norton.

I predicted that Escobar would have a breakout season in 2015.

See, it's easy. Come clean.

I thought he was going to be a good back for us.. just by looking how good he was in college and he did well backing up Demarco...boy didn't see this coming.. even after him stealing underwear

 

[Bleu Star]

"Randle > Demarco and it's not even close.. "

Where are those cerebral folks? I would love to have a word with them.

BYE FELICIA

 

[TheCount]

Moving on from Murray was the right move, you can't pay a RB that kind of money.

What they botched was lowballing him and then never giving him a semi reasonable offer.

I'm also fine with McFadden, as the fact remains that RB is not was we only won 4 games last season.

 

[jterrell]

I thought Randle would help for sure.
But I never expected us to pay him enough to keep him so it was a short-term deal.
We all knew he had issues including being hard-headed before he went full crazy.

Murray was never going to be worth keeping at his going FA rate and he has proven he wasn't.

What DMC did last year was prove he does enough to win and that he deserves first crack this year.
But he like-wise is not a long-term answer.

I'd be drafting a guy round 3 or later and also considering low priced FA.
RB is a 4 year position.
I don't need bell-cows or high draft picks there.

 

[percyhoward]

I thought we would be ok without Murray if we got a decent FA or we drafted a decent RB.

When the idea of McFadden was brought up (before we signed him) I think I said it was clown shoes insane.
When we did sign him I thought it was crazy but was hoping that he would just be a backup and we would draft a good RB.
When we did not draft a good RB, or any RB for that matter and stuck with Mcfadden...I thought it was crazy.
When we went through a number of RBs (whether FA or traded for them) and still stuck with McFadden I thought it was crazy.

When McFadden had a good year and people started saying we should eat humble pie and maybe he is ok as the starter I still thought it was crazy because
the year was clearly an anomaly for him concerning Injuries and production.

If we go again this year with no decent FA RB or Drafted RB and McFadden as our starting RB...we deserve what we get when he goes back to normal McFadden mode and has mutliple injuries and misses
a good deal of the season.

I could've written this myself. It describes my feelings every step of the way.

 

[Craig]

I dont think there were many people that thouht randle was the answer. The majority of people who wanted to move on from murray thought the running game answer was th o line. Those people were proven right this year.

 

[jterrell]

I dont think there were many people that thouht randle was the answer. The majority of people who wanted to move on from murray thought the running game answer was th o line. Those people were proven right this year.

This x 1000.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I thought we would be ok without Murray if we got a decent FA or we drafted a decent RB.

When the idea of McFadden was brought up (before we signed him) I think I said it was clown shoes insane.
When we did sign him I thought it was crazy but was hoping that he would just be a backup and we would draft a good RB.
When we did not draft a good RB, or any RB for that matter and stuck with Mcfadden...I thought it was crazy.
When we went through a number of RBs (whether FA or traded for them) and still stuck with McFadden I thought it was crazy.

When McFadden had a good year and people started saying we should eat humble pie and maybe he is ok as the starter I still thought it was crazy because
the year was clearly an anomaly for him concerning Injuries and production.

If we go again this year with no decent FA RB or Drafted RB and McFadden as our starting RB...we deserve what we get when he goes back to normal McFadden mode and has mutliple injuries and misses
a good deal of the season.

This had Nothing to deal with the underwear bandit IMO.

When he was drafted and they would not put him on the roster as a 3rd RB for most of the season, that said all I needed to know about him.

This.

I could care less about Randle. My hope was that would draft a starting RB high in the draft and rely on McFadden as the change-up back.

 

[jterrell]

I thought we would be ok without Murray if we got a decent FA or we drafted a decent RB.

When the idea of McFadden was brought up (before we signed him) I think I said it was clown shoes insane.
When we did sign him I thought it was crazy but was hoping that he would just be a backup and we would draft a good RB.
When we did not draft a good RB, or any RB for that matter and stuck with Mcfadden...I thought it was crazy.
When we went through a number of RBs (whether FA or traded for them) and still stuck with McFadden I thought it was crazy.

When McFadden had a good year and people started saying we should eat humble pie and maybe he is ok as the starter I still thought it was crazy because
the year was clearly an anomaly for him concerning Injuries and production.

If we go again this year with no decent FA RB or Drafted RB and McFadden as our starting RB...we deserve what we get when he goes back to normal McFadden mode and has mutliple injuries and misses
a good deal of the season.

This had Nothing to deal with the underwear bandit IMO.

When he was drafted and they would not put him on the roster as a 3rd RB for most of the season, that said all I needed to know about him.

There is some "meat on the bone" of that argument for sure.

But there are a few key points that weigh on the other side as well.
1. DMC has averaged over 12 games a year for his career. Murray has averaged over 13.
2. DMC didn't have a career year last year and Dallas was NOT buying him at his high point. It was his low point.One of the biggest outliers for DMC was the quality of last season's OL.
3. ANY NFL team that goes into ANY season betting one RB staying healthy and carrying them will not win a Super Bowl. Hasn't happened in 20+ years.

 

[Junglist]

I did, but I think my opinion was swayed by that long TD against Washington the last game. I thought I'd see more homeruns. He actually played well against ATL.

 

[Jarv]

Wasn't a fan of resigning Murray, at least at anything over 5 mill/year, fumbled in key situations and he looked like he lost a step from his rookie and too much wear and tear.

Thought Randal could be a change of pace back, with a rookie draft pick or another FA.

Wasn't positive or negative on McFadden, wanted to see what he could do after leaving the Raiders. Good for him last year, still want another back and he will be happy at number 2 I think.

I like Garrett's character, hate his OC and game management skills.

Thought Henson was much better than Romo, whom I thought would never see the field...Bog oops!

Mel Renfro never tipped the ball that John Mackey caught for a TD in Super Bowl V!

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

There is some "meat on the bone" of that argument for sure.

But there are a few key points that weigh on the other side as well.
1. DMC has averaged over 12 games a year for his career. Murray has averaged over 13.
2. DMC didn't have a career year last year and Dallas was NOT buying him at his high point. It was his low point.One of the biggest outliers for DMC was the quality of last season's OL.
3. ANY NFL team that goes into ANY season betting one RB staying healthy and carrying them will not win a Super Bowl. Hasn't happened in 20+ years.

It was only his second season in the NFL to eclipse 1K yards.
It was the only the second time in his NFL career that he played in all 16 games (not started but played).

He has been in the league 8 years....only the second time to eclipse 1k and only the second time to play in all 16 games.

Anomaly.

But as you said...the difference is we did not spend a high draft choice for him and we did not pay big money for him.

 

[Vanilla2]

I thought Randle was gonna tear it up last year

 

[plymkr]

I'll admit it. I was wrong about Randle. I believed the o-line was purely responsible for Murray's production. I was wrong about that too. I think in the preseason I predicted that Mcfadden would rush for about 1200, Randle about 500-700 and everyone else would get about 300 combined.

Well I wasn't too far off from McFadden but definitely wrong on everything else.

I was drinking the Kool Aid on the running game.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Randle had talent and there was plenty of meat left on the bone, Murray was a one year wonder with no break away speed and fumbled far too often and not worth the contract Philly gave him but Randle had a two cent brain which is the problem with the Owner/GM of this team when it comes to drafting knucklehead players....Gregory is looking like another brainiac!!!

 

[jterrell]

It was only his second season in the NFL to eclipse 1K yards.
It was the only the second time in his NFL career that he played in all 16 games (not started but played).

He has been in the league 8 years....only the second time to eclipse 1k and only the second time to play in all 16 games.

Anomaly.

But as you said...the difference is we did not spend a high draft choice for him and we did not pay big money for him.

Murray has had two 1K yard rushing seasons as well. And his 1800 yard season was a 150% increase of his next closest.
What DMC did last year he did without earning the starting spot out of camp and did with his usual no QB.

This OL is an anomaly. DMC behind the OL with Romo and Dez? I'd like to find out.

Would be wise to get another back in that you can believe in but DMC is hardly some pipe dream longshot.


Lamar Miller has ONE 1k yard season to his credit but I'd love Dallas to get him.

There are three kinds of FA backs. Those who are washed up, those who are proven but expensive and those who you hope to perform better behind this OL than elsewhere.