Come Free Agency, there are going to be a lot of disappointed fans here.

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Cbz40;1380848 said:
I wont be disappointed because as always I'll go into FA calm calm, cool, and collected as always. However, I do expect us to bring in some OL help. Preferably a Guard, and I do hope it's either Dielman or Steinbach.

You'll be throwing pea salad and Dr. Pepper at your computer after they get signed by someone else. Just you wait.
 

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I got a funny feeling that Wade has a "must have FA list" that Jerry will agree to... a few offensive players and a few defensive players
 

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YoMick;1380852 said:
I got a funny feeling that Wade has a "must have FA list" that Jerry will agree to... a few offensive players and a few defensive players

I think that would only be fitting...after all it's always important to start off a relationship on the right foot. :D
 

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I laugh when I see people talk about we don't need to spend more money on a specific position. My question is, where do you spend the money then? You have linemen, tight ends, running backs, quarterbacks, d tackles, d linemen, line backers, corners, safeties, kicker punter. We have high priced at nearly every position except Quarterback, and that's about to change.
If you need to have 4 high priced secondary guys, so be it. Or 5 high priced linemen, so be it. If you can't afford it, then the guys making money but having no impact, let those fools go and sign some more high priced guys that will get er done.

This off season, we don't need to go nuts in free agency. We need 1 maybe 2 impact players.

We need to draft well if we want cheap labor.
 

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Alexander;1380805 said:
A name RG is very necessary.

If we go with Rivera again, I can only assume we want to lose.

Not only can you assume Dallas will want to lose if they keep Rivera, it's a safe bet they will lose. In fact, a major two year overhaul of the guards and tackles is important.
 

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Alexander;1380805 said:
A name RG is very necessary.

If we go with Rivera again, I can only assume we want to lose.

I'll be screaming bloody murder if they do nothing at RG and they still start Rivera...

Chalk that one up as a loss Jerry and get his replacement... FA or draft I don't care, just replace him... I still remember Darren Howard totally abusing him in both Filly games.
 

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aardvark;1380880 said:
I'll be screaming bloody murder if they do nothing at RG and they still start Rivera...

Chalk that one up as a loss Jerry and get his replacement... FA or draft I don't care, just replace him... I still remember Darren Howard totally abusing him in both Filly games.

Agreed. Rivera's contract is the only thing that muddies the situation. You weigh the value of cutting him versus his cap penalty, and then with sitting that big salary on the bench all year.

For that reason, I'm not going to freak if Wade does nothing big in FA this year. I'm sure he wants to stay calculated this early in his tenure, which makes sense. BP made some big OL mistakes early on (and later on), so I wouldn't be surprised to be Wade focus on the draft this year. Wouldn't anger me, either.
 

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YoMick;1380852 said:
I got a funny feeling that Wade has a "must have FA list" that Jerry will agree to... a few offensive players and a few defensive players

Nope. Jerry is gonna go with what he's got and see what Wade can do, for the most part. Jerry was burned two years in a row payin the big bucks only to be disappointed in the value added to the team. I think Wade can have a list BUT........if he wants any checkmarks on that list, he better be one good salesman. IMO, of course. :cool:
 

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Seven;1380889 said:
Nope. Jerry is gonna go with what he's got and see what Wade can do, for the most part. Jerry was burned two years in a row payin the big bucks only to be disappointed in the value added to the team. I think Wade can have a list BUT........if he wants any checkmarks on that list, he better be one good salesman. IMO, of course. :cool:
As a businessman, I'd think that Jerry understands their is risk in every investment. What happened 2 years ago in free agency really shouldn't have any bearing on the current roster's needs and how to address that in FA.
 

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aardvark;1380880 said:
I'll be screaming bloody murder if they do nothing at RG and they still start Rivera...
We could do nothing and Rivera still wouldn't start.

To paraphrase a sig on this board...

Cory Procter's poodle pooped in the yard this morning. That poop plays guard better than Marco Rivera.
 

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There is simply no way that Jerry doesnt get a RG. I think Deilman is a must sign. Rivera is not returning and it would be dangerous to keep him. The Cowboys have the cap space to sign Gurode, Columbo, Crayton and still have the cap space to sign Dielman without breaking the bank. Hell they can sign a free safety, Shaun Phillips, and maybe a Rod Hood type CB and still have the cap room for rookies. The good thing about having the money is the ability to load your team with the talent to win.

So you may not believe we are going to make a big splash and I agree that too many team have too much money to allow the Cowboys to make the kind of splash like last season but the Cowboys have enough to offer a solid player like Deilman the same as another team and then it will come down to where a player wants to play. And who wouldnt want to play for America's Team?
 

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I agree w/ the spirit of the thread, we won't be going hog-wild in free agency this year, we have players we need to re-sign, and future contracts to think about, not to mention the rookies, 1 big splash and the rest being mid-level free agents is what I'm expecting this offseason signing period
 

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theogt;1380891 said:
As a businessman, I'd think that Jerry understands their is risk in every investment. What happened 2 years ago in free agency really shouldn't have any bearing on the current roster's needs and how to address that in FA.

Any businessman isn't going to sink more money into a dry well. Finklejagt burned him good. So did Rivera, just to name a couple. A couple of years ago he invested millions and saw little return. I don't care who you are, that hurts. I can see risk written all over every player and I think Jerry realizes that as well. I just don't see him going nutso in FA for any big name players.
I think we can address our issues with who we have as starters and/or backups. Now that's a risk I think Jerry is financially willing to take.
 

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baj1dallas;1380845 said:
I guess we will know what Phillips thinks about Carpenter, Burnett, and Ellis by how aggressively he persues a FA OLB.
Maybe Phillips can salvage Burnett's and James' careers. I am not overly confident with our situation at LB. Carp is still a question mark, Ellis is coming back off a tough injury, and James regressed after the contract extension. Everytime someone gets the nice contract it seems they rest on their laurels and go from sugar to sheot. I doubt Adalius Thomas will get a serious look, assuming he doesn't get franchised, but I'd love to see him in a Cowboy Uni. next year.

Additionally, any failure to address our, at times, putrid Oline will be a disappointment. We went cheap on the line last year and did a surprisingly decent job once the mobile Romo came in and took over. Still, Rivera is a dog and Gurode has only had ONE year like we've been hoping since he got here. I wouldn't trust either Rivera or Gurode for next season. Give Andre the big signing bonus and I am afraid we will see him regress to his underachieving self we've seen for a large part of his career. Hopefully much of his failure was due to being played out of his natural position of Center..but I don't know. Steinbach should get our attention, imo...but there are others that could fill the bill.

We may not go after any name players, but not making a play for any would be a mistake. It is not a given we are that close to SuperBowl calibre. If we were, we wouldn't suck so badly in December as we did last season.
 

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We will be making moves:

We have to bring in a vet QB.

Dielman will be a Cowboy.

We will sign either Edwards and keep Carpenter at OLB or we will sign Phillips and move Carpenter inside to bump James.

I think we add a vet FS, keep Henry at corner since Phillips likes to jam the outside receivers, then draft Glenn's replacement as 3rd CB.

We will re-sign Gurode, Columbo and Crayton to new contracts before FA and redo Romo and Newman's contracts before the season starts.

Jerry will spend a lot this offseason.
 

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if dallas doesnt see the need to fix its OL problems then i have to think this organization has no real asperations to be a true contender and i would cease to being a cowboy and nfl fan altogether, as i really cant see myself cheering for another team. its been almost a decade since dallas had a decent OL. and its growing pathetic.
 

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Seven;1380921 said:
Any businessman isn't going to sink more money into a dry well. Finklejagt burned him good. So did Rivera, just to name a couple. A couple of years ago he invested millions and saw little return. I don't care who you are, that hurts. I can see risk written all over every player and I think Jerry realizes that as well. I just don't see him going nutso in FA for any big name players.
I think we can address our issues with who we have as starters and/or backups. Now that's a risk I think Jerry is financially willing to take.
So because he didn't get the desired return from Rivera and Vanderjagt he won't get it from Steinbach? That makes no sense.

I don't see him going "nutso," but I do see him wanting to fill a major need on the team and not wanting to waste a year or two developing someone to fill that need through the draft. Dielman and Steinbach are very very young and very very good. You'd have to have your head up your arse not to be considering them with Rivera having his 2nd back surgery.

In the end, if he's the type that gets "burned" by investments, there's no sense in him being an investor.
 

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LatinMind;1380931 said:
if dallas doesnt see the need to fix its OL problems then i have to think this organization has no real asperations to be a true contender and i would cease to being a cowboy and nfl fan altogether, as i really cant see myself cheering for another team. its been almost a decade since dallas had a decent OL. and its growing pathetic.

Yeah, right.

I do agree on a pathetic OL situation. Last years was the best we've seen in awhile. How sad.
 

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theogt;1380933 said:
So because he didn't get the desired return from Rivera and Vanderjagt he won't get it from Steinbach? That makes no sense.

I don't see him going "nutso," but I do see him wanting to fill a major need on the team and not wanting to waste a year or two developing someone to fill that need through the draft. Dielman and Steinbach are very very young and very very good. You'd have to have your head up your arse not to be considering them with Rivera having his 2nd back surgery.

In the end, if he's the type that gets "burned" by investments, there's no sense in him being an investor.


I'd betcha that's exactly what he said about Rivera. You'd have to have your head elsewhere thinking that every player paid aint gonna get hurt.
In the end, if the fans aren't satisfied with results, your damn straight there ain't no reason to be an investor. We aren't talking a personal investment here. Yeah it's his money, but in the grand scheme of things it's our team. He knows that.
 

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I think it's funny that in other threads, I have been a strong supporter in the idea that our offense is not as good as last year's stats showed, and that I have been calling for improvement. I have been met with ridicule in those threads, where I was told that offense was not this team's problem...

...yet in this thread, I am being told that we can't possible win with this OL. It makes me LOL.
 
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