Come Free Agency, there are going to be a lot of disappointed fans here.

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dbair1967;1381242 said:
they traded for Mcfarland

again you dont seem to get what some are arguing here...you dont have to go out and be obssessed with big name players and give out huge contracts to have success

if the Patriots had used the Commanders strategy this decade, they wouldnt have any super bowls, just like the Skins

David
That's even worse. Getting a player off the street is obviously cheaper, so your point here goes against the overarching point.

As for the rest, if you were following this thread and reading the replies you wouldn't have typed that response. It's already been addressed.
 

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Crown Royal;1381243 said:
If we want Dielman or Steinbach to improve our pass protection/run blocking the way Booger McFarland improved the worst run defense in the NFL, count me definitely out.:lmao2:

:laugh2:

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Crown Royal;1381243 said:
If we want Dielman or Steinbach to improve our pass protection/run blocking the way Booger McFarland improved the worst run defense in the NFL, count me definitely out.:lmao2:
They went from one of the worst run defenses in the NFL to a very solid defense in the late season and in the playoffs. You can attribute that to whatever you like, but one of the obvious reasons is that they picked up a new player.

By the way, adding a "smiley" at the end of your post doesn't make it any less wrong.
 

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Sabu1;1381224 said:
That's because those teams drafted very well for four to five years before their championship seasons and didn't destroy their cap by overpaying in free agency on developmental positions like guard. I hope and pray that Jerrah listens to Jeff Ireland and the scouting department in the draft and doesn't listen to his risky "wildcatting" instincts. Take the best player available in the draft regardless of position.

What a crock...that doesn't exist.

When is that myth gonna die?

With a salary cap, you have to draft to fill needs. You don't want to reach to fill that need, but you don't automatically take the highest ranked player.

You think if the Colts somehow had a top 5 pick, and Quinn was the top guy on their board that they'd use that top 5 pick to draft a QB? Ummm, don't think so.

And to get us back on topic, I bet we will sign at least 7 free agents:

Our top 3 guys...Gurode, Columbo and Crayton.

Vet QB.

Guard.

LB.

FS.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if we looked at and/or signed a CB, NT, OT, or WR too.
 

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If/when we release Bledsoe I'm guessing that we'll have about $28 mil in available cap space (Adam can provide more accurage numbers...). I'm thinking--

Gurode will cost $4 mil per year
Columbo will cost $3 mil per year
If we resign Crayton to a long-term deal he'll cost $1.5 mil per year
A backup QB will cost $1.5 mil per year
A redone Romo contract will cost an additional $3 mil per year
Draft picks will cost $4 mil

That leaves about $11 mil to play with.

Continue on... :)
 

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theogt;1381251 said:
They went from one of the worst run defenses in the NFL to a very solid defense in the late season and in the playoffs. You can attribute that to whatever you like, but one of the obvious reasons is that they picked up a new player.

By the way, adding a "smiley" at the end of your post doesn't make it any less wrong.

actually during the regular season it was noted the run defense got worse after they acquired McFarland

Dungy credited the improved run defense in the playoffs to better tackling, getting Bob Sanders back and simplifying some of the scheme

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I feel like Dallas has a pretty solid team overrall, I just hope we're not overestimating the talent on this team and just blaming the coaching blindly as the reason for not having the success we wanted last year. I just worry we have many good players and not enough great players.
 

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dbair1967;1381256 said:
actually during the regular season it was noted the run defense got worse after they acquired McFarland

Dungy credited the improved run defense in the playoffs to better tackling, getting Bob Sanders back and simplifying some of the scheme

David
Yeah, I would imagine adding a new player immediately you'd see some drop off, but as he got into a rhythm that would change. Also, I never said it was the only reason. It was just an example of a "free agent" move that worked. You can quibble about to what extent it worked, but I'd imagine if the Colts could do it all over again, they would.

The point is, the argument that two of the most recent Super Bowl winners (New England and Indy) haven't relied on obtaining players through sources other than the draft is just wrong.
 

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dbair1967;1381256 said:
actually during the regular season it was noted the run defense got worse after they acquired McFarland

Dungy credited the improved run defense in the playoffs to better tackling, getting Bob Sanders back and simplifying some of the scheme

David

I came in here to say just this. It isn't a matter of what I say made it better. The team itself said that Sanders coming back is why they got better.
 

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blindzebra;1381253 said:
You think if the Colts somehow had a top 5 pick, and Quinn was the top guy on their board that they'd use that top 5 pick to draft a QB? Ummm, don't think so.

Maybe I should have been more specific. In Dallas' position at 22...with the options available at that spot, we should take the best player available. And we don't have a Peyton Manning type player at any spot on this team.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1381255 said:
If/when we release Bledsoe I'm guessing that we'll have about $28 mil in available cap space (Adam can provide more accurage numbers...). I'm thinking--

Gurode will cost $4 mil per year
Columbo will cost $3 mil per year
If we resign Crayton to a long-term deal he'll cost $1.5 mil per year
A backup QB will cost $1.5 mil per year
A redone Romo contract will cost an additional $3 mil per year
Draft picks will cost $4 mil

That leaves about $11 mil to play with.

Continue on... :)

Well, at least our cap situation is very manageable. Combine that with what we hope/feel is a solid team and Dallas has some flexibility in the offseason to upgrade some of the weaker positions on the team.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1381255 said:
If/when we release Bledsoe I'm guessing that we'll have about $28 mil in available cap space (Adam can provide more accurage numbers...). I'm thinking--

Gurode will cost $4 mil per year
Columbo will cost $3 mil per year
If we resign Crayton to a long-term deal he'll cost $1.5 mil per year
A backup QB will cost $1.5 mil per year
A redone Romo contract will cost an additional $3 mil per year
Draft picks will cost $4 mil

That leaves about $11 mil to play with.

Continue on... :)

I don't believe I invited a mod into my thread. There is a nice thread about who played what on the main page - go harass that thread starter.:p:

And the serious response. My thoughts as to what we will do have nothing to do with our cap ability. It has to do with what I think our front office philosophy is - I think Jerry is done with free agency - he feels we are talented enough and doesn't see the need to pay the money again. I don't see him making any splashes this year. I see him focusing on the draft, getting the coaching on the same page, etc.

And again - I never said the team won't sign anyone. I said they won't sign the top tier guys who everyone wants.

Finally - a disclaimer I meant to put in earlier in my thread:

While I am more than willing to place an av-bet on my feelings here, because I am confident about what will happen, this is in NO WAY a prediction thread where I am going to tell you to 'book it' and when something happens or nothing happens, I am going to spout about my genius. I am not in the business of predictions, this is just my educated guess and my feel of the pulse of this team. I could be wrong.


We can call that the Nors disclaimer.:lmao2:
 

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Sabu1;1381265 said:
Maybe I should have been more specific. In Dallas' position at 22...with the options available at that spot, we should take the best player available. And we don't have a Peyton Manning type player at any spot on this team.

Try again...doesn't matter the team, doesn't really matter the draft number in the first round or second round...teams can't over pay at one position and leave holes at another in the cap age.

As a hypothetical, let's say the #1 guy on the board at #22 is a TE...with Witten, Fasano, plus depth...you really think we will draft a TE?

Most teams have 2 boards, one player rankings overall, and one based on their needs. When they pick they try to take their top need guy when he is within a pick or three of the overall ranking...if he isn't, you try to trade down to get him at value, or you address a secondary need that is at value at that spot.
 

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Crown Royal;1381270 said:
I don't believe I invited a mod into my thread. There is a nice thread about who played what on the main page - go harass that thread starter.:p:

And the serious response. My thoughts as to what we will do have nothing to do with our cap ability. It has to do with what I think our front office philosophy is - I think Jerry is done with free agency - he feels we are talented enough and doesn't see the need to pay the money again. I don't see him making any splashes this year. I see him focusing on the draft, getting the coaching on the same page, etc.

And again - I never said the team won't sign anyone. I said they won't sign the top tier guys who everyone wants.


I agree.

I don't think we're going to target top-flight guys either.

BTW you're a bastid. :)
 

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Sabu1;1381265 said:
Maybe I should have been more specific. In Dallas' position at 22...with the options available at that spot, we should take the best player available. And we don't have a Peyton Manning type player at any spot on this team.

we dont have a QB like that...but we wont be drafting a guy to replace Terrance Newman, Roy Williams, DeMarcus Ware or Jason Witten

I could see us taking a CB fairly high, but only if they decide they're moving Henry to FS...we wont draft a TE at all IMO, and definitely not one high...and while niether JuJo or Barber are superstar RB's, I feel confident in saying we wont be drafting a RB very high, if at all

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dbair1967;1381282 said:
we dont have a QB like that...but we wont be drafting a guy to replace Terrance Newman, Roy Williams, DeMarcus Ware or Jason Witten

I could see us taking a CB fairly high, but only if they decide they're moving Henry to FS...we wont draft a TE at all IMO, and definitely not one high...and while niether JuJo or Barber are superstar RB's, I feel confident in saying we wont be drafting a RB very high, if at all

David

I do agree with the TE position (stocked there with a least three guys who can play), and safety (not another 1st round safety), but personally I don't think there are any other positions on this team where I feel like more competition from a high draft pick wouldn't be ideal. This team is solid, just don't reach ten spots for a guy to fill a percieved weakness. This is all I'm saying. Hopefully, Jerrah will sooth my fears of him doing this on draft day.
 

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DallasEast;1402966 said:
Just don't say 'I told you so'. ;)
LOL - Actually I bumped it because I think I had an Av bet with someone - trying to find it now.:p:
 

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Crap....nevermind - Theogt and I didn't agree to it, he just laid it out.

But I am still willing to change my av if we sign Leonard Davis, considering the spirit. Lemme know Theo.
 
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