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Just a trailer but it has an initial look and feel of Captain America: The Winter Soldier in my opinion. It would be a major hit for Disney/Marvel if it actually nears or exceeds that film. Throwing in Anthony Mackie, Harrison Ford, Giancarlo Esposito and even Liv Tyler gives the movie the *enough* star power to do the job. Will directing, script writing and cinematography be equally up to the task? Keeping fingers crossed...
Seeing that much of Esposito in the trailer tells me that this film has undergone an extensive amount of rewriting and reshoots.
 

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Just a trailer but it has an initial look and feel of Captain America: The Winter Soldier in my opinion. It would be a major hit for Disney/Marvel if it actually nears or exceeds that film. Throwing in Anthony Mackie, Harrison Ford, Giancarlo Esposito and even Liv Tyler gives the movie the *enough* star power to do the job. Will directing, script writing and cinematography be equally up to the task? Keeping fingers crossed...
Was Liv in the trailer?
 

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That actually looks… good. I wasn’t hyped for this one at all until watching that trailer.

They are very lucky that Hurts died and Harrison Ford got the role because he lifts the film and you can tell it just by the trailer.

Reminds me of Air Force One, Patriot Games and some of those Ford action greats.

And think it’s very cool how they borrow the Ed Brubaker espionage/politics theme that I always thought were the only Captain America stories that were worth reading. They appear to do it even better than Part II.

And of course the Hulk tie-in stuff is always cool. Hulk is my favorite of the Marvel characters and wish they would make more stuff for him besides the She-Hulk show.

With this, Deadpool 3, dismissing Kang, and F4, starting to have hope that Marvel is getting its act together again.
 

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An article only a Star Trek nerd can love. :D NERDS ARE PEOPLE TOO! :mad:

Star Trek Glossary: Every Starfleet Rank And Job Explained
By Witney Siebold | SlashFilm.com
May 6, 2024


"Star Trek" is, first and foremost, a workplace drama. It just so happens that the workplace is a high-tech, faster-than-light space vessel exploring distant regions of the galaxy. Working on a starship is a fine job indeed. Many classic "Star Trek" episodes deal with rank, the chain of command, and how certain captains employ their unique managerial styles to inspire the officers beneath them. The main characters in "Star Trek" mostly all belong to Starfleet, a military-like organization that uses naval ranks and nautical vocabulary to describe a starship's operations...Read more
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The article is lengthy, as it provides short descriptions for everything. Here is a detailed list:

Chain of Command (rank top to bottom)
  • Fleet Admiral
  • Admiral
  • Vice Admiral
  • Rear Admiral
  • Commodore
  • Captain
  • Commander
  • Lieutenant Commander
  • Lieutenant
  • Lieutenant Junior Grade
  • Ensign
  • Master Chief Petty Officer
  • Senior Chief Petty Officer
  • Chief Petty Officer
  • Petty Officer First Class
  • Petty Officer Second Class
Note: Petty officers can consist of support personnel for transporters, food services, basic security, officers' assistant (e.g. Yeoman), historians, botanists, etc.
  • Acting Ensign
  • Cadet 1st Class
  • Cadet 2nd Class
  • Cadet 3rd Class
  • Cadet 4th Class
Command/Bridge
  • Commanding Officer (i.e. Captain)
  • Executive Officer (i.e. First Officer)
  • Second Officer
  • Helmsman
  • Operations Officer
  • Navigation Officer
  • Chief of Flight Control
  • Communications Officer
Science/Medical
  • Science Officer
  • Chief Operations Officer
  • Chief Medical Officer
  • Head Nurse
  • Head of Surgery/other specialty
Security/Combat
  • Chief of Security
  • Strategic Operations Officer
Engineering/Technology
  • Chief Engineer
  • Transporter Chief
  • Environmental Control
  • Computer Operations
Miscellaneous
  • Quartermaster
  • Cargo Operations
  • Waste Management Officer
  • Intelligence Officer
  • Special Services
  • Counselor
 

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An article only a Star Trek nerd can love. :D NERDS ARE PEOPLE TOO! :mad:

Star Trek Glossary: Every Starfleet Rank And Job Explained
By Witney Siebold | SlashFilm.com
May 6, 2024


"Star Trek" is, first and foremost, a workplace drama. It just so happens that the workplace is a high-tech, faster-than-light space vessel exploring distant regions of the galaxy. Working on a starship is a fine job indeed. Many classic "Star Trek" episodes deal with rank, the chain of command, and how certain captains employ their unique managerial styles to inspire the officers beneath them. The main characters in "Star Trek" mostly all belong to Starfleet, a military-like organization that uses naval ranks and nautical vocabulary to describe a starship's operations...Read more
_________________

The article is lengthy, as it provides short descriptions for everything. Here is a detailed list:

Chain of Command (rank top to bottom)
  • Fleet Admiral
  • Admiral
  • Vice Admiral
  • Rear Admiral
  • Commodore
  • Captain
  • Commander
  • Lieutenant Commander
  • Lieutenant
  • Lieutenant Junior Grade
  • Ensign
  • Master Chief Petty Officer
  • Senior Chief Petty Officer
  • Chief Petty Officer
  • Petty Officer First Class
  • Petty Officer Second Class
Note: Petty officers can consist of support personnel for transporters, food services, basic security, officers' assistant (e.g. Yeoman), historians, botanists, etc.
  • Acting Ensign
  • Cadet 1st Class
  • Cadet 2nd Class
  • Cadet 3rd Class
  • Cadet 4th Class
Command/Bridge
  • Commanding Officer (i.e. Captain)
  • Executive Officer (i.e. First Officer)
  • Second Officer
  • Helmsman
  • Operations Officer
  • Navigation Officer
  • Chief of Flight Control
  • Communications Officer
Science/Medical
  • Science Officer
  • Chief Operations Officer
  • Chief Medical Officer
  • Head Nurse
  • Head of Surgery/other specialty
Security/Combat
  • Chief of Security
  • Strategic Operations Officer
Engineering/Technology
  • Chief Engineer
  • Transporter Chief
  • Environmental Control
  • Computer Operations
Miscellaneous
  • Quartermaster
  • Cargo Operations
  • Waste Management Officer
  • Intelligence Officer
  • Special Services
  • Counselor
What rank are the "Red Shirts" that always die the minute their feet touch soil of an alien planet?
 

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What rank are the "Red Shirts" that always die the minute their feet touch soil of an alien planet?
Starfleet classified their rank Top Secret. I have security clearance but would require you to put on a red uniform before I could tell you. :muttley:

Personal trivia time. I remember the first time watching the premiere episode Encounter at Farpoint for Star Trek: The Next Generation. I was turned off almost immediately after seeing the primary and secondary hulls of the Enterprise separating at warp. I stopped watching for awhile until deciding to give it another shot, caught the episode Contagion and I was hooked.

That is old trivia I have shared in the past. Your comment took me back to seeing Patrick Stewart and Jonathan Frakes in red uniforms for the first time. I instantly thought, "Gene Roddenberry has flipped command uniforms from gold to red. Well. They're dead."

:laugh:
 

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That actually looks… good. I wasn’t hyped for this one at all until watching that trailer.

They are very lucky that Hurts died and Harrison Ford got the role because he lifts the film and you can tell it just by the trailer.

Reminds me of Air Force One, Patriot Games and some of those Ford action greats.

And think it’s very cool how they borrow the Ed Brubaker espionage/politics theme that I always thought were the only Captain America stories that were worth reading. They appear to do it even better than Part II.

And of course the Hulk tie-in stuff is always cool. Hulk is my favorite of the Marvel characters and wish they would make more stuff for him besides the She-Hulk show.

With this, Deadpool 3, dismissing Kang, and F4, starting to have hope that Marvel is getting its act together again.
i guess Sam Elliott is too old for a return to the General Ross role ? i loved that psycho eyed look in Ong Lee Hulk.

i actually have difficulties with Ford because he's too type casted of such in the aforementioned films.

and i just have to see with Mackey as the new CA. Despite Falcon/Winter series, it's still hard for me to see him as the new CA, instead of
the Falcon. i don't see why they did not just re-cast Steve Rogers/CA. maybe that could be a future idea down the road.
 

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i guess Sam Elliott is too old for a return to the General Ross role ? i loved that psycho eyed look in Ong Lee Hulk.
Age is not the question in my opinion. Sam Elliott is 79. Harrison Ford is 82. The question is (and this is not posting a spoiler) which of the two actors would be best playing President Ross? Elliott? Or Ford, who played one of the most iconic roles as president, in the all-time 31st ranked R-rated box office movie Air Force One?

Love Elliott but I have a slight problem remembering him playing General Ross 21 years ago outside the MCU. I immediately picture William Hurt as Ross, especially after his five MCU appearances in the role.

Hurt passed away. Now Ross is no longer General or Secretary of State in the MCU. He is the president. President Sam Elliott? President Harrison "GET OFF MY PLANE" Ford? I choose the latter.

i actually have difficulties with Ford because he's too type casted of such in the aforementioned films.
True but Ford usually delivers when called upon.

and i just have to see with Mackey as the new CA. Despite Falcon/Winter series, it's still hard for me to see him as the new CA, instead of
the Falcon. i don't see why they did not just re-cast Steve Rogers/CA. maybe that could be a future idea down the road.
Sure. If they deviate from Sam Wilson's role as Captain America in the comics--which Marvel made happen back in 2015. Anything is possible with Kathleen Kennedy in the picture though.
 

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Age is not the question in my opinion. Sam Elliott is 79. Harrison Ford is 82. The question is (and this is not posting a spoiler) which of the two actors would be best playing President Ross? Elliott? Or Ford, who played one of the most iconic roles as president, in the all-time 31st ranked R-rated box office movie Air Force One?

Love Elliott but I have a slight problem remembering him playing General Ross 21 years ago outside the MCU. I immediately picture William Hurt as Ross, especially after his five MCU appearances in the role.

Hurt passed away. Now Ross is no longer General or Secretary of State in the MCU. He is the president. President Sam Elliott? President Harrison "GET OFF MY PLANE" Ford? I choose the latter.


True but Ford usually delivers when called upon.


Sure. If they deviate from Sam Wilson's role as Captain America in the comics--which Marvel made happen back in 2015. Anything is possible with Kathleen Kennedy in the picture though.
I have always been a big Sam Elliott fan, but there’s only one Harrison Ford. Very smart of them to bring him in this role, especially for this type of movie.
 

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Age is not the question in my opinion. Sam Elliott is 79. Harrison Ford is 82. The question is (and this is not posting a spoiler) which of the two actors would be best playing President Ross? Elliott? Or Ford, who played one of the most iconic roles as president, in the all-time 31st ranked R-rated box office movie Air Force One?

Love Elliott but I have a slight problem remembering him playing General Ross 21 years ago outside the MCU. I immediately picture William Hurt as Ross, especially after his five MCU appearances in the role.

Hurt passed away. Now Ross is no longer General or Secretary of State in the MCU. He is the president. President Sam Elliott? President Harrison "GET OFF MY PLANE" Ford? I choose the latter.


True but Ford usually delivers when called upon.


Sure. If they deviate from Sam Wilson's role as Captain America in the comics--which Marvel made happen back in 2015. Anything is possible with Kathleen Kennedy in the picture though.
Comics deviate from what's in the comics, they retcon things all the time or differences can get explained away with the writer's best friend, The Multiverse........ lol
 

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Comics deviate from what's in the comics, they retcon things all the time or differences can get explained away with the writer's best friend, The Multiverse........ lol
I 100% agree with the Multiverse option but any writer must get the green light for detouring from a production plotline. Any change can be implemented instantly but I doubt Anthony Mackie's role will get morphed or edited out any time soon.
 

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Simon Pegg Is Still Game To Do Star Trek 4, But He Explained Why The Sequel Is ‘Forever Tainted’

By Adam Holmes | Cinema Blend
July 23, 2024


If you have a Paramount+ subscription, then the TV gates of Star Trek have been opened back up to you since 2017, with shows like Discovery, Picard, Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks and Prodigy (which is now on Netflix) breathing new life into this corner of the franchise. Film-wise though, it’s been eight years since the release of Star Trek Beyond, and development remains stalled on Star Trek 4. Although Simon Pegg, who plays the Kelvin Timeline’s Scotty, is still game to return for this Star Trek sequel, he did acknowledge that it will be “forever tainted” for a specific, yet understandable reason.

On June 19, 2016, a month before the wide release of Star Trek Beyond, Anton Yelchin, who played Pavel Chekov in these movies, tragically died at the age of 27... Read more
 

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Simon Pegg Is Still Game To Do Star Trek 4, But He Explained Why The Sequel Is ‘Forever Tainted’

By Adam Holmes | Cinema Blend
July 23, 2024


If you have a Paramount+ subscription, then the TV gates of Star Trek have been opened back up to you since 2017, with shows like Discovery, Picard, Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks and Prodigy (which is now on Netflix) breathing new life into this corner of the franchise. Film-wise though, it’s been eight years since the release of Star Trek Beyond, and development remains stalled on Star Trek 4. Although Simon Pegg, who plays the Kelvin Timeline’s Scotty, is still game to return for this Star Trek sequel, he did acknowledge that it will be “forever tainted” for a specific, yet understandable reason.

On June 19, 2016, a month before the wide release of Star Trek Beyond, Anton Yelchin, who played Pavel Chekov in these movies, tragically died at the age of 27... Read more
I say re-cast the role. I couldn't even remember what Anton Yelchin looked like, and had to look him up, just to remember. He didn't make much of an impression on me, apparently, probably because it didn't even seem like they were trying to find someone who looked at all like Chekov. Maybe they can do better.
 

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I say re-cast the role. I couldn't even remember what Anton Yelchin looked like, and had to look him up, just to remember. He didn't make much of an impression on me, apparently, probably because it didn't even seem like they were trying to find someone who looked at all like Chekov. Maybe they can do better.
Yelchin death was a real tragedy. The crew was locked in for a good run of movies.

He had the voice nailed down. The character was fresh out of the Academy at 17 and Yelchin did not look a day over it. For me, it was just a sad outcome--both on and off the screen.
 

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Yelchin death was a real tragedy. The crew was locked in for a good run of movies.

He had the voice nailed down. The character was fresh out of the Academy at 17 and Yelchin did not look a day over it. For me, it was just a sad outcome--both on and off the screen.
Don't get me wrong, I do find it sad. I'm just saying that the franchise can re-cast the role and go on without a problem. It's not like trying to re-cast T'Challa.
 
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