Commanders drafts

[TOOMBS]

I think Skins fans will look back on this draft as a disaster. I foresee only one player ever contributing for this team and that is Davis. Skins fans will cry about how the two best players on their team are the Tight Ends, and how everyone else is trash. I love that Skins fans think that they scored so big on these WR because they got the top talent in the draft. Well drafting top WR talent from this year's draft is like drafting the fastest runner at the special olympics.

Oh woe are the Skins next season. A Spurrier clone as head coach, new offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator, a tired, old and often injured OL, an anemic pass rush, a luke warm LB core, a crippled secondary now that ST croaked, a RB that is on his way down, and to top it all off....... a QB too dumb to learn coverages, too dumb to fix his slow release and eternally soaked in flop-sweat. It's obvious Zorn begged to have Colt because he knows JC is garbage. Commanders have NO young talent other than Landry, and Cooley (and possibly Davis this year). *edit* Oh yeah, I forgot about your stud blue-chip punter......the only one taken in the draft LMAO.

At least you'll have the 09' draft to get some talent......
08-09' season record 2-14, #1 draft pick.

You guys might even beg for Spurrier days by the end of the season.

 

[The Rawhide Kid]

:laugh2: :laugh2: And they say they don't care about what we say. http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245974:laugh2:
Favorite quote: Are they just dismissing us because we are the skins, or are some legitimately aftaid/nervous about having to face a potential nightmare in our offense?

 

[Skinsmaniac]

But I think a lot of it has to do with our revamped secondary. We go four deep at CB.

That doesn't make sense to me. The offense dictates to the defense what players are on the field, so we could go with only one wideout, and you would only put one or two CBs on the field. Making sure that we have a good 4th receiver because you have a good fourth CB is backwards, unless I suppose Zorn is committed to running 4wr formations.

 

[trickblue]

Watch the games. You can call it what you want, but the offense was heavily run oriented. A WCO believes in passing much more than running. The Eagles are one of the best examples of a WCO. Their offense is based mostly on a short passing game to the TE's, backs, and receivers. The Auburn Tigers used the run to setup the pass. That offense resembled a lot more of what Pittsburgh does than Philadelphia.

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I like Auburn... I just thought this was funny...

 

[Skinsmaniac]

Watch the games. You can call it what you want, but the offense was heavily run oriented. A WCO believes in passing much more than running. The Eagles are one of the best examples of a WCO. Their offense is based mostly on a short passing game to the TE's, backs, and receivers. The Auburn Tigers used the run to setup the pass. That offense resembled a lot more of what Pittsburgh does than Philadelphia.

They did run a lot at Auburn, it's true. Even so, Campbell showed that he can make the quick, short, timing throws.

 

[AsthmaField]

They did run a lot at Auburn, it's true. Even so, Campbell showed that he can make the quick, short, timing throws.

What QB in the NFL can't?

Seriously, if you can't do that... then you can't even hold a clipboard in the NFL.

 

[Skinsmaniac]

What QB in the NFL can't?

Seriously, if you can't do that... then you can't even hold a clipboard in the NFL.

So then why do people think that he can't succeed in a WCO?

 

[AtlCB]

They did run a lot at Auburn, it's true. Even so, Campbell showed that he can make the quick, short, timing throws.

Auburn ran 42 times per game and passed 24 times per game that year. I thought the WCO was a passing offense.

 

[AmishCowboy]

They did run a lot at Auburn, it's true. Even so, Campbell showed that he can make the quick, short, timing throws.

It seem to me that any success he had this year was on those kinda throws.

 

[AsthmaField]

So then why do people think that he can't succeed in a WCO?

Because playing QB in the NFL is way more than just being able to connect on short passes. In the WCO a lot has to go on above the shoulders of the QB and I'm not so sure Jason is equipped for that at this level. Also, his slow wind-up release is going to always hurt him (Zorn can work on that all he wants).

His diagnostic skills reading defenses is atrocious.

Good luck with Campbell.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Hello Cowboys fan,

Yes I am Commanders fan.... I want to know how yall feel about the Washington Commanders drafts? What grade would you give us?


Round 2, Devin ThomasWR6'2"215Michigan State
Round 2, Pick 17 (48) Fred DavisTE6'4"248Southern Cal
Round 2, Pick 20 (51)Malcolm KellyWR6'4"
Round 3, Pick 33 (96) \Chad RinehartOT6'5"320Northern Iowa
Round 4, Pick 25 (124) (From Titans)Justin TryonCB5'9"190Arizona State
Round 6, Pick 2 (168) (From Rams )Durant BrooksP6'0"204Georgia Tech
Round 6, Pick 14 (180) (From Broncos through Rams)Kareem MooreDB5'11"213Nicholls State
Round 6, Pick 20 (186)Colt BrennanQB6'3"
Round 7, Pick 35 (242) (Compensatory selection)Rob JacksonDE6'4"257Kansas State
Round 7, Pick 42 (249) (Compensatory selection)Chris HortonFS6'0"212UCLA

You guys had draft picks this year???

Oh yeah.... its leap year :laugh2:

 

[kmd24]

Auburn ran 42 times per game and passed 24 times per game that year. I thought the WCO was a passing offense.

And about 1/3 of those passes were to the backs, mostly swings and screens.

 

[AtlCB]

And about 1/3 of those passes were to the backs, mostly swings and screens.

You are correct. Campbell completed only 188 passes all season and about 60 of those were to the backs. They rarely ran three or four receiver sets.

 

[Bizwah]

That doesn't make sense to me. The offense dictates to the defense what players are on the field, so we could go with only one wideout, and you would only put one or two CBs on the field. Making sure that we have a good 4th receiver because you have a good fourth CB is backwards, unless I suppose Zorn is committed to running 4wr formations.

The fact is that you HAVE to find a WR. We go four deep at CB....In other words, our secondary is stout. You only have ONE WR that concerns the defense at all.

You loaded on WRs because you knew we have the makings of a great secondary, and you only have one WR that can do anything. By overloading you hope you can find at least another one. You'd need at least two more good WRs to even concern us now.

I wasn't referring to strategy at all.

 

[Idgit]

the Commanders

 

[Skinsmaniac]

The fact is that you HAVE to find a WR. We go four deep at CB....In other words, our secondary is stout. You only have ONE WR that concerns the defense at all.

You loaded on WRs because you knew we have the makings of a great secondary, and you only have one WR that can do anything. By overloading you hope you can find at least another one. You'd need at least two more good WRs to even concern us now.

I wasn't referring to strategy at all.

But it's all about strategy. The way it is, I think we will need more good receivers because Zorn will probably want to run lots of three and four WR sets. However, if he truly was concerned about the Cowboys CBs the easiest way to solve that problem would be to go to two tight end sets with two RBs and one wide receiver, and take your CBs off the field.

 

[AmishCowboy]

I'm sure this Thread made it to ES by now!. Skinsmanic, Where are the rest of your Commander Friends to help you?.

 

[Vintage]

The Skins drafted WRs because we acquired/drafted CBs?

Wut?

 

[Califan007]

You have almost no depth on OL, you do have NO depth on the DL

We actually have decent depth on DL, it's the starting positions we need to upgrade. It seems like all we HAVE is depth on DL lol...Carter and Montgomery are solid starters, but Griffin and Daniels are getting up there to still be starters (well, if Griffin has a entire season without injury he might not be a concern yet).

As for the OL, if Reinhart and Kerry Brown both pan out for us, we'll have three VERY young offensive linemen as depth with at least one or two being potential starters (Heyer was a rookie last season, and filled in rather nicely at RT when Jansen was out for the season). I think even Jason Taylor congratulated Joe Bugel on Heyer after the Miami game, basically saying something like "That kid you had playing at RT, he's good".

 

[Califan007]

The fact is that you HAVE to find a WR. We go four deep at CB....In other words, our secondary is stout. You only have ONE WR that concerns the defense at all.

You loaded on WRs because you knew we have the makings of a great secondary, and you only have one WR that can do anything. By overloading you hope you can find at least another one. You'd need at least two more good WRs to even concern us now.

I wasn't referring to strategy at all.

LoL...I highly doubt the Skins drafted the waythey drafted because of the number of decent CBs you have on your squad.

The reason (or one of the reasons) the Skins stockpiled WRs is because in 2005 we had a grand total of ONE receiver catch a TD pass (Moss)...and during our playoff drive we were starting the likes of Jimmy Farris (practice squad wonder who wasn't even on the team) and Antonio Brown, our punt returner who had hands of stone and couldn't even line up correctly.

The reason (or one of the reasons) the Skins stockpiled WRs is because in 2007 we were literally pulling guys off the street in mid-season to see if they could come play wr for us, asking guys to quit their Walmart jobs or come out of semi-retirement to help boost our receiving unit.

The reason (or one of the reasons) the Skins stockpiled WRs is because in 2007, no receiver had a TD pass until something like week 10...and it was our 4th string wr who had the first one (actually the first two), and our almost-retired street free agent who had the next one. Not our starters.

If developing Jason Campbell to his fullest was of ANY importance to the Skins, they couldn't continue to do it with that half-assed approach in getting receivers (you KNOW how Romo does without T.O. lol). It would best serve our self interests to invest in giving JC the proper tools and weapons to succeed, which also included a (hopefully) solid OG as back up should the O-line have devastating injuries once again. If the OLine doesn't have any significant injuries, they could return to being one of the more dominant O-lines in the league...which is what they were a mere 2 years ago in 2006, when none of the starters went down for the year.

So, no...I don't think Dallas' CB situation dictated jack in terms of who the Skins drafted. Sorry.