Commanders Still 7m over the cap of 102m...maybe

[notherbob]

When you stay really, really healthy for most of the season... had the Cowboys enjoyed the same kind of health, they would also have been able to make some noise in the playoffs...

Be honest now, when was the last time you remember the Skins being that healthy through the majority of the season?? They put Brandon Noble on IR early in the season (he'd already missed all of camp), then the next player going on IR was Patten after game 9, then the next Skin to go on IR was Randy Thomas, after he broke his leg against the Cowboys in game 14...

Contrast that to the Cowboys who lost four freakin' LINEBACKERS in the course of the season... they had to go out and sign Quinton Caver in November, and Michael Barrow in December, they'd been so devastated at linebacker... and of course, they lost their Pro Bowl left tackle in game 6...

Yes, you had enough talent among your starters to get to the second round of the playoffs... but we saw how quickly their play dropped off at the end of the season and in the playoffs when the injuries mounted up, which shows quite clearly that you did NOT have enough talented DEPTH to be serious playoff contenders...



That's an illogical statement, given that the Boys were THIS close to playoff contention, and will be adding a mess of FA's...

Let me sum it up this way for you-- if you're REALLY content with the lack of quality depth on your team, you're welcome to field the same one next year... I'm bettin' you guys won't be quite so fortunate on the injury front, and that lack of quality depth will result in your favorite team struggling rather badly toward the end of the season...

Absolutely right, Silverbear, quality depth is critical to going all the way. Injuries are simply a fact of life in the NFL, especially late in the year when the play becomes much more intense. Witness the difference in the Cowboys in the first half vs. the second half last year. The Skins basically have a good squad but it's thin and that will be its Achilles' heel.

 

[DragonCowboy]

the last few weeks of the season they were without randy thomas with ray brown and cory raymer playing.

coincidence?

up til then, they were decent, if inconsistent.

dallas' O, on the other hand.....

oh cry me a river. Possibly our best offensive lineman, Flozell Adams, got injured. Before then, when BP opened up the offense we torched the Eagles for 33 pts. Before then, we "were decent, if inconsistent."

Our Offense still showed up every once in a while, against Kansas City and Carolina. With two turnstiles at our tackle position, if Flozell Adams didn't get injured, we would've had the division wrapped up.

So before you start attributing your poor offensive showing with some injured O-Lineman, and say we weren't in the exact same position, well, do your research...

 

[SkinsandTerps]

I always hear the Commanders depth, but to me the Cowboys really only truly have depth IMO at 2 positions. RB and... well, 1 position. Okay I guess I could add CB.

There has been massive turnover on this Cowboys squad over the past 3 years as well.

48 players under contract going into the 2003 season (per one of your own http://www.cowboysguide.com/CG-AJT-SiteArticle.asp:

1. EMMITT SMITH, RB
2. LARRY ALLEN, OL
3. JOEY GALLOWAY, WR
4. RAGHIB ISMAIL, WR
5. KEVIN HARDY, LB .
6. LA’ROI GLOVER, DT
7. DEXTER COAKLEY, LB
8. DARREN WOODSON, S
9. GREG ELLIS, DE
10. DAT NGUYEN, LB
11. ROY WILLIAMS, S
12. ROBERT THOMAS, FB
13. EBENEZER EKUBAN, DE
14. JEFF ROBINSON, TE/DS
15. TONY MCGEE, TE
16. CHAD HUTCHINSON, QB
17 QUINCY CARTER, QB
18. DWAYNE GOODRICH, CB
19. TONY DIXON, S
20. ANDRE GURODE, OL
21. MARKUS STEELE, LB
22. ANTONIO BRYANT, WR
23. MATT LEHR, OL
24. DALEROY STEWART, DE
25. JAVIAR COLLINS, OL
26. JOHN NIX, DT
27. DEREK ROSS, CB
28. JAMAR MARTIN, FB
29. RALPH HUNTER, DB
30. TYSON WALTER, OL
31. WILLIE BLADE, DL
32. DERRIUS MONROE, DE
33. RON MOORE, DT
34. WOODY DANTZLER, RB
35. JEFF GRAU, DS
36. MARQUES MCFADDEN, OL
37. JASON MCKIE, FB
38. BOB SLOWIKOWSKI, TE
39. KURT VOLLERS, OL
40. ENNIS HAYWOOD, RB
41. DEVEREN JOHNSON, WR
42. DAVE VOLK, OL
43. MARKESE FITZGERALD, CB
44. MICHAEL HAWKES, LB
45. RICK SHERROD, S
46. KEVIN DERONDE, DE
47. JOE JOHNSON, OL
48. DUSTIN KEITH, OL

 

[riggo]

So before you start attributing your poor offensive showing with some injured O-Lineman, and say we weren't in the exact same position, well, do your research...

i was responding to this, einstein--

Originally Posted by Wheat
enough talent to get to the 2nd round of the playoffs.

If we were overhauling the team, and adding a mess of FA's. It would mean we've got a ways to go before contending.

Originally posted by 1fisher

enough talent?? More like luck! Your offense was just that, offensive, the last few weeks of the season. You better hope they improve!

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[theogt]

Give me a real #2 WR, 1 outside LB with some depth along the lines and secondary...and I'll be happy with that offseason.

Not gonna happen with 6-10 MM in cap room.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

read more. post less.

Boy oh boy. Maybe you should read Wheat's posts a little closer.

 

[felix360]

yep just heard on the radio, skins still over 7 million, :laugh2: :laugh2:

 

[riggo]

I never got caught up in the whole Commanders cap hell thing because I never wish ill on someone else for my own gain "Bad Karma", but for you to come in here and gloat about the myth of Commanders cap hell is hysterical.

i agree. it is hysterical. have you seen how many boys fans have been screaming 'cap hell' lately? that is hilarious.

so, yes, i will respond when those fans have been proven wrong. again. it's a message board- this is how it works.

The Commanders were saved at the bell, plain and simple you were in trouble and got bailed out

the CBA happened just like it was supposed to and as was predicted by most teams and owners. dont hate because the skins played their hand well.

at the end and lets be truthful your team has no depth and is aging rapidly,

besides old man brunell, you have no point.

your window of opportunity is closing in the next 2 years and pushing all of these contracts into future will hurt you when you have to rebuild.

i thought you never got cought up in the 'cap hell' thing? count yourself among those who have been proven wrong once again.

I do not mind other teams fans coming in and giving some other perspective but its amazing how many ES people are brave enough to come in know because they finally beat us this year where were you folks the last several years when we owned your behinds.

dont flatter yourself. i didnt even know this board existed. had i known, you would have a point.

 

[riggo]

Boy oh boy. Maybe you should read Wheat's posts a little closer.

i was actually responding to dragon cowboy by way of wheats response to 1fisher, but i quoted it incorrectly.

fixed it.

 

[theogt]

What a ridiculous post. Played their hand well? Laughable.

 

[bags]

I live in VA, and the newspaper here is claiming that the skins are 8 million under.

 

[riggo]

What a ridiculous post. Played their hand well? Laughable.

feel free to post a coherent, intelligent response rather than random insults.

 

[1fisher]

the last few weeks of the season they were without randy thomas with ray brown and cory raymer playing.

coincidence?

up til then, they were decent, if inconsistent.

dallas' O, on the other hand.....

blah... blah... blah... every team has injuries. We had a coupla major ones at critical times too!

 

[1fisher]

oh cry me a river. Possibly our best offensive lineman, Flozell Adams, got injured. Before then, when BP opened up the offense we torched the Eagles for 33 pts. Before then, we "were decent, if inconsistent."

Our Offense still showed up every once in a while, against Kansas City and Carolina. With two turnstiles at our tackle position, if Flozell Adams didn't get injured, we would've had the division wrapped up.

So before you start attributing your poor offensive showing with some injured O-Lineman, and say we weren't in the exact same position, well, do your research...

he's a freakin crybaby Commander fan... what do you expect??? Go visit ES for a little while you'll see what I'm talking about.... just don't say anything negative or "BigShot" Art will ban you... talk about a crybaby!:laugh2: :laugh2:

 

[1fisher]

i was responding to this, einstein--



read more. post less.

go back to ES!

 

[1fisher]

feel free to post a coherent, intelligent response rather than random insults.

thank you mister mod!

 

[DragonCowboy]

blah... blah... blah... every team has injuries. We had a coupla major ones at critical times too!

exactly what i was trying to say...

riggo: I was responding to "dallas' O on the other hand....."

You were talking about how your offense sucked because your offensive lineman got injured. Dallas' Offense sucked because Flozell Adams got injured.

I was bridging the similarity between the downfalls of our Offenses, while you were saying the Commanders had a reason to suck, while the Cowboys' offense just sucked from the start...

 

[1fisher]

exactly what i was trying to say...

riggo: I was responding to "dallas' O on the other hand....."

You were talking about how your offense sucked because your offensive lineman got injured. Dallas' Offense sucked because Flozell Adams got injured.

I was bridging the similarity between the downfalls of our Offenses, while you were saying the Commanders had a reason to suck, while the Cowboys' offense just sucked from the start...

you'll never be able to reason with a skins fan....... they can't see beyond their burgundy glasses and hog noses!:laugh2:

 

[5Stars]

and if you're content gambling on chemistry.

You mean the kind of chemistry that Sean "gun toting, mouth spitten" Taylor brings to your team? That kind of chemistry? No thanks!

Hey, how are you going to replace him when it's possible that soon, he will be entertaining Big Bubba in Cell Block 12?

 

[riggo]

it was my fault for trying to have an actual, intelligent football debate with 1fisher. what was i thinking?