Commanders suing fans who can’t keep their season tickets

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fanfromvirginia;2920191 said:
It seems to me a better analogy might be to an apartment lease. If you need to break your lease early, your landlord may have (depending on the laws in your state/locality and the specifics of your lease) the right to make you pay for the remaining months on your lease, even if they've got a long waiting list of people ready and willing to move into the apartment.

They often times will not do this because A) they're not jerks and/or B) they understand that this might hurt their reputation and future business.

Usually there's a settlement. I broke my lease having 4 months to go only because I found a new place and better place to live where I didn't have to pay rent for the first 6 months. I think it came out to about 2 months of rent that I owed. And I got to put my deposit towards the money I owed for breaking the lease.

The Skins are suing for the entire sum left over, interest and attorney fees.





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Alexander;2919694 said:
"The Washington Commanders routinely work out payment plans and alternate arrangements with hundreds of ticket holders every year," Donovan said. "For every one we sue, I would guess we work out a deal with half a dozen."
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Yakuza Rich;2920249 said:
Usually there's a settlement. I broke my lease having 4 months to go only because I found a new place and better place to live where I didn't have to pay rent for the first 6 months. I think it came out to about 2 months of rent that I owed. And I got to put my deposit towards the money I owed for breaking the lease.

The Skins are suing for the entire sum left over, interest and attorney fees.





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Snyder's just being consistent here -- squeezing every single cent out of every single fan that he can, no matter what, damn the consequences.
 

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Even in a funny graphic those colors suck.
True, but I wanted Commanders fans to feel the complete rueage in living color. :)
 

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I hope the fans demonstrate and run the organization out of business.
 

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DC area? they have one of the highest income per household and the lowest unemployment in the country... sign of the times!
 

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adamknite;2920215 said:

Everyone needs to click that link and read the article.

This is the 77 year old grandma they sued for 66 thousand. She's been a season ticket holder since the early 60's.

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Since 1962, Pat Hill has been a Commanders fan. She still is even though they sued her and won when she couldn't make payments on a 10-yr contract for Commanders season tickets. She's a 73-year-old realtor and making $400 a month in social security after the housing crash. Hill on her couch, among a small sampling of her memorabilia, uses tissues to wipe the tears while she recalls the lawsuit. She's hoping Dan Snyder will listen to her story and her willingness to pay when the recession has passed.
 

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dest;2920591 said:
Everyone needs to click that link and read the article.

This is the 77 year old grandma they sued for 66 thousand. She's been a season ticket holder since the early 60's.

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Since 1962, Pat Hill has been a Commanders fan. She still is even though they sued her and won when she couldn't make payments on a 10-yr contract for Commanders season tickets. She's a 73-year-old realtor and making $400 a month in social security after the housing crash. Hill on her couch, among a small sampling of her memorabilia, uses tissues to wipe the tears while she recalls the lawsuit. She's hoping Dan Snyder will listen to her story and her willingness to pay when the recession has passed.

Wow. That is truly sad. Even though she's a redsk*n fan I have much sympathy for her. Didn't think I could like Danny boy any less than I did but I have a new disdain for him.
 

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So I guess everyone hating in this thread is blind to this quote in the article:

"Donovan said other teams sue their fans. "I don't know of any pro football team that doesn't," he said."


Unless I'm taking this wrong ( it seems straight forward ) Dallas has lawyers doing the EXACT same thing for them........But naturally the skins would get the bad media......

.....this thread is a joke if that quote is interpreted correctly on my part

Stop failing everyone
 

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Speaking of "Fail"...

But spokesmen for the following National Football League teams said they do not sue their fans over season ticket contracts: Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Green Bay Packers, Houston Texans, Jacksonville Jaguars, New York Giants and Jets, Seattle Seahawks and Tennessee Titans.

The New England Patriots have sued multiyear premium ticket holders. A Chicago Bears spokesman said, "In rare instances, we have sued."

Officials with the Arizona Cardinals, Denver Broncos, Minnesota Vikings, Dallas Cowboys, Miami Dolphins, San Francisco 49ers and Indianapolis Colts declined to comment on the query. Other teams did not respond.

Maybe Dallas does, maybe they don't, but at least 9 teams have confirmed that they don't.
 

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Also this is pretty good:

What have we done to deserve this?

For 100 years, Washington has been blighted with some of the worst owners of pro sports teams that the United States has produced. Daniel Snyder of the Commanders is just the latest, though he is rapidly working his way up a list of ignominy that includes racists and rip-off artists, the vindictive and the vain, cheap town-jumpers as well as the merely meddlesome and incompetent.

This week, as detailed in James V. Grimaldi's stories in The Post on Commanders tickets, the team has taken the bad faith prize for mean and greedy business practices toward its own fans. If ticket buyers with multiyear contracts suffer from economic hard times, the Commanders do not emulate at least nine other NFL teams, as well as local franchises such as the Capitals, and simply cancel the tickets and sell them to someone else. Nope. Despite a "waiting list" they claim is 160,000 long, the Commanders sue some of their own fans for the money and, at times, even resell the tickets.

To whom would they do such a thing? A 72-year-old grandmother who has loved the team all her life has lost a $66,364 judgment to the team even as she says she's close to bankruptcy. That might take the cake for meanness. But for stupid moves, my choice was the Commanders suing an unemployed paranoid schizophrenic. Now that's crazy. Another fellow, sent to jail, told the Commanders and Nats he'd like to cancel those season tickets of his. The Nats sent him free tickets. The Commanders , of course, sued him.

The Commanders have a right to enforce contracts. But that doesn't make it right. No wonder there are few rebukes in this town as insulting as, "That sounds like something Dan Snyder might do."

The recent revelations about Commanders tickets, including sales of thousands of them to secondary-market brokers even though it is against team policy, have brought howls of "that's the last straw." The Commanders say they've disciplined miscreants internally. They say there'll be no more Steelers crowds at FedEx Field. And they say the problems involve a relatively small number of tickets.

I say I'm not surprised. Unfortunately, it's the pattern of a whole lifetime for many of us. Embarrassing sports ownerships -- not worthy of the town, the teams and the fans -- are our curse.

As a child, I read Shirley Povich's condemnations of the racist practices of Commanders owner George Preston Marshall, including the famous story that began, "Jim Brown, born ineligible to play for the Commanders, integrated their end zone three times yesterday." No wonder, if you were looking for a team with an offensive nickname, you would start here.
 

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dest's article said:
if you were looking for a team with an offensive nickname, you would start here.

lol this still cracks me up......no one in modern language uses that name offensively and if it were SOoooo bad back when it was thought up, native american coaches/players wouldn't of MADE IT UP......lol

That would be like me naming my flag football team the "Arizona cracker *** white trash"

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KINGBRICE_28;2920667 said:
lol this still cracks me up......no one in modern language uses that name offensively and if it were SOoooo bad back when it was thought up, native american coaches/players wouldn't of MADE IT UP......lol

That would be like me naming my flag football team the "Arizona cracker *** white trash"

lmao

see this page for a laugh....

http://www.bestandworst.com/v/?id=8177


yes I did just quote myself....
 

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KINGBRICE_28;2920649 said:
So I guess everyone hating in this thread is blind to this quote in the article:

"Donovan said other teams sue their fans. "I don't know of any pro football team that doesn't," he said."


Unless I'm taking this wrong ( it seems straight forward ) Dallas has lawyers doing the EXACT same thing for them........But naturally the skins would get the bad media......

.....this thread is a joke if that quote is interpreted correctly on my part

Stop failing everyone

Except for one small detail. You may want to see if this has happened with any other team since the economy went bust. Even if they have, and the Cowboys included, there is simply no reason to do this other than pure greed.
 
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