Comment from a Skins fan

[chicago JK]

i dont think you'll find any skins fans praising the pass rush this year. the starting front four can stop the run- generally speaking- very well. the rush is another story.

taylor doesnt get a free pass for missing plays- not from me, anyway. i'm just pointing out that overall, i think taylor is better. williams to me is like champ bailey- he'll make a big play, then give one up a second later.

I have no problem with people saying Sean Taylor is better. No problem at all. In fact, Taylor was one of my favorite prospects in the draft last year. Although I think it should be noted they are closer in talent than most Skins fans will admit.

I think it comes down to that cowboys fans would prefer Roy and Skins fans will prefer Sean. If you switched them, i would think most would be on the other side of the argument as well. Not all, but most.

 

[AsthmaField]

If you're gonna have a guy back deep to help in coverage, I'd take Taylor.

If you're gonna have a guy up in the box to hit a RB on 3rd and 1, I'd take Roy.

If you're gonna have a guy that you want to incorporate into a winning defense and have his character be a positive while his toughness and hard hitting sets the tone for the rest of the defense, I'd take Roy.

Taylor is better in coverage... although not that much better.
Roy is the harder hitter... although not that much harder.
Roy is the better tackler and takes better angles.
Roy is more likely to give up a big play in the passing game.
Taylor is more likely to give up a big running play.
Roy has the higher character and I'd rather have him on my team.

Ideally, you'd like to have Taylor at FS and Roy at SS.

 

[Bach]

yep. but winning one out of one this year in humiliating fashion begins to make up for the other 14.

It might make up for Vinny to Crayton in the final minute last year, but that still leaves 13 more

 

[sbuscha]

Vinny testaverde to ROOKIE Patrick Crayton...how did that feel? Were even now on that game....give me 13 other reasons....

 

[AdamJT13]

Taylor isn't the playmaker Roy is. Roy has more sacks (2.5 to 1), just as many interceptions (2 to 2), more turnovers created by forcing fumbles (3 to 1), more fumble recoveries (1 to 0), more touchdowns (1 to 0), more passes defended (either 9 to 8 or 7 to 6, depending on which NFL.com page you read) and more tackles for loss (2 to 0). (Tackles can't accurately be compared for players on different teams, but Roy has more tackles, too.)

Roy's the first defensive back in four years to have at least 2.5 sacks, two interceptions and three forced fumbles for turnovers, and he's the first in at least five years to have those stats plus a defensive touchdown.

 

[sacase]

ok let's compare this year.

Who has more Tackles Roy by far
Who has more Fourced Fumbles? Roy
Who has more TD's Roy
Who has more Passes Defended? Roy (I thought he sucks in coverage)
Who has more Fumble Recoveries? Roy
Who has more Sacks? Roy
Who has more Int's? Tied

Yeah Sean Taylor is hands down better than Roy. Oh by the Way Biscuit (Roy) is the faster of the two. Roy runs a 4.53 and Sean Taylor Runs a 4.54.

Thank you come again.

 

[DMX690]

You know what, i think most Cowboys fan would give back those 14 victory for, a victory this Sunday. Cause a win this sunday means more then those meaningless victory for the past seven years.

 

[riggo]

Who has more Passes Defended? Roy (I thought he sucks in coverage)

no. he's actually great in coverage. great safeties let WR's get behind them and give up 2 TD's in the final minutes of games within moments of each other on national TV.

nobody outside of dallas cowboyland takes williams over taylor.

 

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

Sean Taylor is a bad *** on and off the field. He is changing his habits about off the field habits. Haven't heard anything from him in a while. Anyways he gives our D a meanstreak to it.

 

[1fisher]

rod gardner, i believe.

Coles wanted out of the East because of Roy.......

 

[stilltheguru]

no. he's actually great in coverage. great safeties let WR's get behind them and give up 2 TD's in the final minutes of games within moments of each other on national TV.

nobody outside of dallas cowboyland takes williams over taylor.

u sure nobody outside of dallas would take roy over taylor?im in atlanta and have heard several people say roy is better.

try again

 

[demdcowboys#1]

my point is that taylor in his second year is better than williams. bringing up 2 plays from taylors rookie season while ignoring williams chokes only solidifies my point.

thanks for the avatar, btw.

If he's better than why isnt he leading statwise, and why isnt he being selected to pro bowls?

 

[random Cs]

lol, skins fan here

If anyone mentions safety, skins/cowboy fans start up the great debate.

The 2 don't even play the same position. Taylor is a FS and Roy is a SS.

When you hear Skin's fan say Roy is overrated its just because he's a Cowboy and we all hate him.

 

[AdamJT13]

no. he's actually great in coverage. great safeties let WR's get behind them and give up 2 TD's in the final minutes of games within moments of each other on national TV.

Sorry, but those plays weren't Roy's responsibilities, they were Aaron Glenn's. Bill Parcells already explained the coverage in-depth and said Roy wasn't at fault. So did Aaron Glenn and Darren Woodson. Even the Dallas media who blamed Roy at first now realize that it wasn't his fault.

 

[stilltheguru]

lol, skins fan here

If anyone mentions safety, skins/cowboy fans start up the great debate.

The 2 don't even play the same position. Taylor is a FS and Roy is a SS.

When you hear Skin's fan say Roy is overrated its just because he's a Cowboy and we all hate him.

this debate will go on for 10 plus years.lol im used to it now

 

[aznhalf]

Sorry, but those plays weren't Roy's responsibilities, they were Aaron Glenn's. Bill Parcells already explained the coverage in-depth and said Roy wasn't at fault. So did Aaron Glenn and Darren Woodson. Even the Dallas media who blamed Roy at first now realize that it wasn't his fault.

I don't think Commander's fans will ever understand this, I've given up trying to explain it to them. It is above their mental ability to grasp a concept so complicated.

 

[MC KAos]

well for one it wasnt roy's fault on those two plays in week two, even parcells has said that one of them was roy's fault and the other one was A. Glenn. And im not positive, but im pretty sure that it was the second one (the more important, loosing td) that was against glenn. and i could be wrong but i cant remember roy ever costing us a game b4 that. Now i do remeber him WINNING us games, against the eagles, the first one against the giants were he made them fumble at the HALF yard line and proceeded to recover it. Now, tell me, how many games has sean taylor won for you? oh and i know hes lost you guys two games, including the one on the crayton catch. and its not like roy is a seasoned vet, he is only two years older compared to taylor

 

[riggo]

u sure nobody outside of dallas would take roy over taylor?im in atlanta and have heard several people say roy is better.

try again

oh, well then, that settles it.

 

[AdamJT13]

well for one it wasnt roy's fault on those two plays in week two, even parcells has said that one of them was roy's fault and the other one was A. Glenn. And im not positive, but im pretty sure that it was the second one (the more important, loosing td) that was against glenn.

Parcells said neither of them were Roy's fault. He was asked that in a press conference, and he said, "No, they really weren't." He later explained the coverage (cover 4 or "quarters") and exactly what the safety's responsibility is.

 

[riggo]

Sorry, but those plays weren't Roy's responsibilities, they were Aaron Glenn's. Bill Parcells already explained the coverage in-depth and said Roy wasn't at fault. So did Aaron Glenn and Darren Woodson. Even the Dallas media who blamed Roy at first now realize that it wasn't his fault.

seeing as cowboy fans can't agree on whose fault it was ('one was', 'neither was'), why don't you enlighten me with your take? who was supposed to be helping glenn?