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Hostile;3354905 said:
He bought her drinks, she is a minor. It was ignorant of him to do so.

If she was too drunk to know whether she wanted to have sex with the guy then he's a moron for even trying to initiate it. In some states that alone constitutes grounds for sexual assault. ESPECIALLY if she is under age.

His actions cannot be defensed. Period.

I'm not sure alcohol alone is enough to constitute sexual assault. I think you have to slip something in their drink for it to be so. Just getting drunk with someone and bumping monkeys is not enough standing alone.
 

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Bob Sacamano;3354950 said:
I'm not sure alcohol alone is enough to constitute sexual assault. I think you have to slip something in their drink for it to be so.
Some places consider it rape to sleep with a girl who is drunk.

Also can your dad hook me up with a Wizard?
 

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Cover 2;3354953 said:
Some places consider it rape to sleep with a girl who is drunk.

Also can your dad hook me up with a Wizard?

Just drunk? Or passed out drunk? If there is consent between 2 drunken parties, I can't see the sexual assault.

And no, me and my pa horde all our supplies.
 

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Bob Sacamano;3354956 said:
Just drunk? Or passed out drunk? If there is consent between 2 drunken parties, I can't see the sexual assault.

And no, me and my pa horde all our supplies.
I think just drunk, but I'm not certain at all about that.

Also I want a deal!
 

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CATCH17;3354886 said:
It is but let's be clear. She got herself drunk.

Which still doesn't mean she asked to have sex, wanted to have sex, or was in any shape to actually conciously agree to have sex.

Ben should have been smarter than this and unfortunately he's one of those guys who isn't smart enough to understand this.

Hostile;3354905 said:
He bought her drinks, she is a minor. It was ignorant of him to do so.

If she was too drunk to know whether she wanted to have sex with the guy then he's a moron for even trying to initiate it. In some states that alone constitutes grounds for sexual assault. ESPECIALLY if she is under age.

His actions cannot be defensed. Period.

Exactly. There is no way to get around him being a moron in this situation. He put himself, in more than one way, into a bad situation and made multiple bad decisions while doing so. What the guy gets as punishment for it is more than deserved and I don't feel in the least bit bad for the guy.
 

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jterrell;3354762 said:
This has to be one of the silliest posts ever. And we get a lot of them so that is saying something.


She cared enough to flag down a cop immediately after leaving the club, reporting the offense, going to the hospital and submitting to a humiliating rape kit examination.

A 20 year girl who was clearly into the sauce did about 100 times more than one would expect... which is why Ben felt confident enough to keep trying this crap.

She's also publicly stated what happened. She just didn't want a trial some BFE Georgia DA couldn't afford to prosecute or win.

There are plenty of accounts out there and NONE of them make Ben look anything but bad.

VietCowboy;3354793 said:
So someone who doesn't want to go through the humiliation of recounting and re-experiencing her trauma means we shouldn't care either? She's stated that the publicity of this case is one of the reasons she doesn't want to press charges. There are some people out there who can reasonably understand that.

For every sexual assault victim willing to tell their story, there's 20 more that can't, not because they don't want to, but that re-telling it can be very traumatizing.

BraveHeartFan;3354823 said:
*Blinks* This has to be a joke post. This can't possibly be serious because no one would honestly post something like this with any degree of serious nature behind it.

First off she did care enough to go through with the charge the DA didn't finish through with it because he didn't feel like he had quite enough evidence to make it a slam dunk case. So it had nothing to do with what she wanted to go through with.

Secondly even if she hadn't wanted to go through the entire humiliating process that shouldn't make the humanity in any other person suddenly shut off.

So you're telling me cause there are people out there who don't care about what happens to others that you, and I, shouldn't either? That is quite possibly one of the most ignorant and sad things I've ever heard of if that's really how you look at life.

Hey there are people out there who don't care if a kid gets raped by an adult either. Since they don't care should we all just not care?

Don't even bother to answer that cause I'm honestly shuddering at what you might actually say.

The fact that you all have to go to lengths to help Canadianguy understand the story behind the story truly baffles me. I truly can't believe Mr. Canadian is this aloof. Something does not compute. He must be putting you all on. Gotta be. Anything else would be uncivilized.
 

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Bleu Star;3355009 said:
The fact that you all have to go to lengths to help Canadianguy understand the story behind the story truly baffles me. I truly can't believe Mr. Canadian is this aloof. Something does not compute. He must be putting you all on. Gotta be. Anything else would be uncivilized.
He is from Canada... maybe we just don't understand his Canadian words....
 

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Bleu Star;3355009 said:
I truly can't believe Mr. Canadian is this aloof. Something does not compute. He must be putting you all on. Gotta be. Anything else would be uncivilized.

It's exactly what he's doing. And the same people fall into his trap every, single time.

Both sides look pretty pathetic.
 

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Bob Sacamano;3355013 said:
It's exactly what he's doing. And the same people fall into his trap every, single time.

Both sides look pretty pathetic.


You calling anyone pathetic is one of the funniest things that I've ever seen on these forums.
 

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BraveHeartFan;3355018 said:
You calling anyone pathetic is one of the funniest things that I've ever seen on these forums.
Feeling guilty?

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Seriously, even birds can spot and stay away from traps set for man.
 

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Bob Sacamano;3355023 said:
Feeling guilty?

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Seriously, even birds can spot and stay away from traps set for man.


Guilty about what? Wondering about the stupidity of people on these forums, or any internet forum? Not in the least. I've found over the years that the internet forums, including this one, are full of people who honestly don't have a clue.

And actually you'd know that already cause you're one of those people who often doesn't have a clue.
 

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Bob Sacamano;3355023 said:
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Seriously, even birds can spot and stay away from traps set for man.


how many times you get banned for pretty much the same thing?
 

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BraveHeartFan;3355028 said:
Guilty about what? Wondering about the stupidity of people on these forums, or any internet forum? Not in the least. I've found over the years that the internet forums, including this one, are full of people who honestly don't have a clue.

And actually you'd know that already cause you're one of those people who often doesn't have a clue.

:rolleyes: quit being a crybaby. Man up.

Four;3355029 said:
how many times you get banned for pretty much the same thing?

That's called a compulsion. I have tourettes PISS IN MY ***!!
 

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Bob Sacamano;3355048 said:
Thanks, [strike]mod's[/strike] little buddy.

If only I was little instead of overweight. :(


Maybe someday.


- I guess there was another edit while I was posting. lol

Oh well. Whatever.
 

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Bob Sacamano;3354950 said:
I'm not sure alcohol alone is enough to constitute sexual assault. I think you have to slip something in their drink for it to be so. Just getting drunk with someone and bumping monkeys is not enough standing alone.
How much are you willing to bet in money?
 

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BraveHeartFan;3355054 said:
If only I was little instead of overweight. :(


Maybe someday.


- I guess there was another edit while I was posting. lol

Oh well. Whatever.

I bet Canadian has some crack to sell to help you out with that little weight problem.
 
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