Commish: Roethlisberger violated league policy

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All I know is the big bad Black n Gold ship is a sinkin' and I LOVE IT!!!!!!!:laugh2:
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;3354749 said:
For me, ultimately the question is, if she didn't care enough to go through with charge, why should I or anyone else?

So someone who doesn't want to go through the humiliation of recounting and re-experiencing her trauma means we shouldn't care either? She's stated that the publicity of this case is one of the reasons she doesn't want to press charges. There are some people out there who can reasonably understand that.

For every sexual assault victim willing to tell their story, there's 20 more that can't, not because they don't want to, but that re-telling it can be very traumatizing.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;3354174 said:
Furthermore one has to wonder what would have happened if that surveillance tape would not have erased or taped over which seems to be controversial at worst.
Bright (DA) said the incident happened in a small, dingy bathroom, adding there's no camera in the bathroom or VIP area.

"There's no camera that would have shed any light," Bright said. "There are surveillance cameras showing Mr. Roethlisberger and his entourage and the victim and her sorority sisters. There's nothing where the tapes would shed any light on it. There are no cameras in the VIP area."
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;3354749 said:
For me, ultimately the question is, if she didn't care enough to go through with charge, why should I or anyone else?


*Blinks* This has to be a joke post. This can't possibly be serious because no one would honestly post something like this with any degree of serious nature behind it.

First off she did care enough to go through with the charge the DA didn't finish through with it because he didn't feel like he had quite enough evidence to make it a slam dunk case. So it had nothing to do with what she wanted to go through with.

Secondly even if she hadn't wanted to go through the entire humiliating process that shouldn't make the humanity in any other person suddenly shut off.

So you're telling me cause there are people out there who don't care about what happens to others that you, and I, shouldn't either? That is quite possibly one of the most ignorant and sad things I've ever heard of if that's really how you look at life.

Hey there are people out there who don't care if a kid gets raped by an adult either. Since they don't care should we all just not care?

Don't even bother to answer that cause I'm honestly shuddering at what you might actually say.
 

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jimmy40;3354817 said:
Bright (DA) said the incident happened in a small, dingy bathroom, adding there's no camera in the bathroom or VIP area.

"There's no camera that would have shed any light," Bright said. "There are surveillance cameras showing Mr. Roethlisberger and his entourage and the victim and her sorority sisters. There's nothing where the tapes would shed any light on it. There are no cameras in the VIP area."
Corroborating the account of her being dragged to said bathroom would have been useful. Eyewitness accounts are useful but video would have been useful.
 

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Bleu Star;3354621 said:
Last thing I knew Payton hadn't ever ridden a motorcycle as an organ donor (without a helmet) or ever been accused of any subversive behavior *COUGH SEXUAL ASSAULT* in the company of the ladies. As another poster so eloquently put it, where there's smoke there's fire. Roger shouldn't back off of anything... Ben makes extremely questionable decisions and thinks he's above reproach. That's bull**** in my book.

I can't read any of your posts without scrolling up after every sentence and looking at your avatar.
 

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Gzus;3354684 said:
Interesting that no one wants to refute the morality of getting a woman drunk to have sex with her.....

So he forced her to drink?
 

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Steelers hear of new zero-tolerance policy

Posted by Michael David Smith on April 19, 2010 3:40 PM ET

Multiple Pittsburgh Steelers players said today that coach Mike Tomlin gathered them together and informed them of a new zero-tolerance policy for off-field misconduct.

"We were told early this morning either you get in line or you get kicked out of line," said offensive lineman Willie Colon, who was with Ben Roethlisberger in Georgia the night he was accused of sexually assaulting a woman in a bar bathroom. "You are going to be traded or you're not going to be here. If your conduct is going to play a part in you not being a good football player, they are going to get rid of you. . . . There is a zero tolerance, not only with the NFL but with the Steelers."

According to the Associated Press, Steelers coach Mike Tomlin denied making those remarks. But the AP also reports that multiple players confirmed they were told there's a new zero-tolerance policy.

"Guys took it different ways, depending on how they interpreted it, but I think . . . after what we've seen go on, there's not going to be much tolerance for stuff around here," defensive end Aaron Smith said.

It's interesting that Smith says players "took it different ways," because one of the reasons the Steelers have been subject to criticism on this front is that the team has handled off-field misconduct in different ways for different players. Two years ago, when star linebacker James Harrison was accused of domestic violence, the Steelers were quick to accept his explanation. When mediocre wide receiver Cedrick Wilson was accused of domestic violence, the Steelers were quick to cut him.

That seeming contradiction led to Steelers owner Dan Rooney releasing a statement saying, "Each incident must be considered on a case-by-case basis." But "zero tolerance" suggests that future incidents won't be considered on a case-by-case basis, and that any incident at all would lead the Steelers to send a player packing.

Last week, Steelers President Art Rooney II acknowledged that a player's contributions on the field will be considered when the team determines whether to keep a player who has gotten into off-field trouble.

"As you can imagine, to keep our commitment to our fans to consistently put the best possible team on the field, we must also evaluate a player's likely contribution, both in short term and the long term," Rooney said.

And so we expect the Steelers to live up to their zero-tolerance policy if the next guy to get in trouble is the 53rd man on the roster. The real test of the Steelers' mettle is whether they'll apply "zero tolerance" to their stars. So far, they haven't.
 

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Gzus;3354825 said:
Corroborating the account of her being dragged to said bathroom would have been useful. Eyewitness accounts are useful but video would have been useful.
except that there were no cameras in that area.
 

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CATCH17;3354886 said:
It is but let's be clear. She got herself drunk.
He bought her drinks, she is a minor. It was ignorant of him to do so.

If she was too drunk to know whether she wanted to have sex with the guy then he's a moron for even trying to initiate it. In some states that alone constitutes grounds for sexual assault. ESPECIALLY if she is under age.

His actions cannot be defensed. Period.
 

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CATCH17;3354886 said:
It is but let's be clear. She got herself drunk.
Yeah, and she got herself raped, right? Your agenda is coming through loud and clear.
 

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Love it how those who have taken to defending Ruthlessraper can't admit they are wrong and continue to try and rationalize such a flimsy defense that it's her fault. In the end it was he who purchased her drinks it was he who exposed himself to her then subsequently raped her. In the end it takes a pig of a man to have sex with a woman so intoxicated even after she had previously refused him. Regardless of if he wasn't indicted on charges, he's a dirtbag rapist.
 
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