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Dez makes catch, not credited with it, Dallas does not move further in playoffs: Dallas haters laugh, Dallas gets kick in the nuts
Zeke gets lame, unsubstantiated claim against him, 6 game suspension: Dallas haters laugh, Dallas franchise gets kick in the nuts
JJ about to get a large fine because he opens his mouth against the almighty baddell; Dallas haters rejoice, Dallas about the take another one to the nads

not sure why anything surprises me or anyone any more...time to form your own league JJ, or sell the team
 

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It was offensive before hand. People still talk as if we got away with one when the damn TE initiated contact.

Then at the very least the call should have been off setting and a redo of 3rd and 1. We did get away with one, which is fine, but it goes both ways.
 

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Dez makes catch, not credited with it, Dallas does not move further in playoffs: Dallas haters laugh, Dallas gets kick in the nuts
Zeke gets lame, unsubstantiated claim against him, 6 game suspension: Dallas haters laugh, Dallas franchise gets kick in the nuts
JJ about to get a large fine because he opens his mouth against the almighty baddell; Dallas haters rejoice, Dallas about the take another one to the nads

not sure why anything surprises me or anyone any more...time to form your own league JJ, or sell the team

Sad part is that most of the Dallas haters, that laugh at the team, claim to be Cowboy fans.
 

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Then at the very least the calls should have been off setting and a redo of 3rd and 1. We did get away with one, which is fine, but it goes both ways.

Nope .......... facemask is just like Holding for the offensive line .......... it cancels out anything that comes later in the play.
 

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The green bay catch? Or the Eagles catch?
Is this a trick question? Both but it was based on and evolved into the Dez catch. You know as well as I do that it comes up at least a few times a year, let it go (again, not you personally).
 

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I don't really understand people's thought processes here sometimes.

NFL: The Dez play should be a catch, and we are going to clarify the rule that has already been changed twice since then to make it so that will be the case.

Some posters: Since they didnt explicitly say that the play was called incorrectly, that means that it was ruled correctly despite the fact that it would be harmful for them to explicitly say if it was wrong. All you that thought it should have been a catch were obviously proven wrong.
 

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Nope .......... facemask is just like Holding for the offensive line .......... it cancels out anything that comes later in the play.
Not according to the articles I’ve read. What about Dez running 15 yards out on the field and arguing with an official with his helmet off? Against the rules? No but it’s left up to the discretion of the officials and if that was the other way around the tears would be flowing about how corrupt all the officials are, how they’re all out to get the Cowboys, blah blah blah.

You know why we haven’t won a SB in over 20+ years? Do you know why we’ve won less than a handful of playoff games in the past two decades? It wasn’t the Dez catch, it wasn’t ALL coaching, it wasn’t crooked officials on Goodells payroll...it’s due to that disgusting excuse for an owner that many of you continue to support with bogus accusations and excuses. It’s partly due to a “gun slinger qb” that couldn’t get it done in big games. It’s due to a lot of reasons other than one catch that some of you can’t let go.

3+ years after the fact we still have page after page of cry babies whining and moaning about a catch vs non catch, a fan base that has turned their back on our 2nd year QB who just got rookie of the year, a fan base that continues to support an inept owner with merchandise sales, a fan base that was hoping we would lose out after only 6 games into the season. So don’t sit there and accuse others of being haters under the guise of “fans” just because they don’t fit your vision of what a “fan” should be.
 

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I don't really understand people's thought processes here sometimes.

NFL: The Dez play should be a catch, and we are going to clarify the rule that has already been changed twice since then to make it so that will be the case.

Some posters: Since they didnt explicitly say that the play was called incorrectly, that means that it was ruled correctly despite the fact that it would be harmful for them to explicitly say if it was wrong. All you that thought it should have been a catch were obviously proven wrong.
Oh, I understand their thought processes alright...
 

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If the should have been ruled complete why would there be a need to relax the going to the ground requirement?

Because the rule isn't working as intended because of too much interpretation. In the Mara quote earlier in the thread, he says plays like the Johnson and Dez non-catches should have been catches because it seems like they had secured the ball and made a football move. However, they were ruled non-catches because they lost control of the ball when they struck the ground. The football move, act common to the game, clearly a runner aspects of the rule are being trumped because they are vague while going to the ground isn't vague, and the committee rightly doesn't believe that should be the case.
 

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Because the rule isn't working as intended because of too much interpretation. In the Mara quote earlier in the thread, he says plays like the Johnson and Dez non-catches should have been catches because it seems like they had secured the ball and made a football move. However, they were ruled non-catches because they lost control of the ball when they struck the ground. The football move, act common to the game, clearly a runner aspects of the rule are being trumped because they are vague while going to the ground isn't vague, and the committee rightly doesn't believe that should be the case.

This comes across more as the rule was applied reasonably with Dez based on the existing rules at that time, and they want to change the rules so that the same kind of play will be ruled differently going forward. I have no problem with that, but I still don't think it will solve everything. People that get hit and lose the ball immediately after hitting the ground, for example, will draw complaints from the receiving team if they lose the ball because the ruling is a fumble. And what if a player leaps, catches the ball, then the receiver immediately loses the ball when his feet hit the ground? That begs the question of whether 2 feet touching completes the catch and then there is a fumble, or if there is some standard of time, or a football move (which can be vague) or a combination of things that has to occur. Does the 3 step process still apply, and if so, is there an opportunity for a player diving for a ball to complete a reception even though he doesn't have the chance to complete the 3 step process? It's not as easy to make the rule complaint proof as some want to believe.
 

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Gee, thanks NFL for clearing that up.......................only cost us a trip to the NFC Title Game, but no biggie:facepalm:

You want to know what even more depressing than the league admitting it was a catch after all? That was the closest we are probably ever going to get with Clappy.:facepalm:
 

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Another quote from Mara ....

“I think where we are unanimous [are] plays like the Dez Bryant play in Green Bay, going to the ground, the Calvin Johnson play from a couple of years ago,” Mara told ESPN. “I think all of us agree that those should be completions. So let’s write the language to make them completions.”

He isn't saying the refs ruled in correctly based on the rules at the time, he is saying the rules at the time should have been written so that it would have been a catch.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-compet...ez-bryants-catch-lambeau-catch-220635523.html
 

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Well at least it's finally been confirmed. No point in getting upset over it, though, at this point.
 

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I know, this is something of a duplicate, but despite the way some of the headlines and some of the commentary is worded, neither Mara, nor the NFL said the refs ruled incorrectly when the Dez Bryant incompletion was called.

They said "it should be a completion", not "it should have been ruled a completion", and Mara has further said the goal is to change the rule so it will be a completion going forward.
 

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Well at least it's finally been confirmed. No point in getting upset over it, though, at this point.

It's actually not. What Mara and the committee has said is that that kind of play should be a catch, not that it should have been ruled a catch at the time. They are seeking a change in the rule so that it will be a catch going forward.
 

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Not according to the articles I’ve read. What about Dez running 15 yards out on the field and arguing with an official with his helmet off? Against the rules? No but it’s left up to the discretion of the officials and if that was the other way around the tears would be flowing about how corrupt all the officials are, how they’re all out to get the Cowboys, blah blah blah.

You know why we haven’t won a SB in over 20+ years? Do you know why we’ve won less than a handful of playoff games in the past two decades? It wasn’t the Dez catch, it wasn’t ALL coaching, it wasn’t crooked officials on Goodells payroll...it’s due to that disgusting excuse for an owner that many of you continue to support with bogus accusations and excuses. It’s partly due to a “gun slinger qb” that couldn’t get it done in big games. It’s due to a lot of reasons other than one catch that some of you can’t let go.

3+ years after the fact we still have page after page of cry babies whining and moaning about a catch vs non catch, a fan base that has turned their back on our 2nd year QB who just got rookie of the year, a fan base that continues to support an inept owner with merchandise sales, a fan base that was hoping we would lose out after only 6 games into the season. So don’t sit there and accuse others of being haters under the guise of “fans” just because they don’t fit your vision of what a “fan” should be.

You're the freaking crybaby crying because the league came clean on the catch, and you don't know what that catch would've meant to the Cowboys chances at a Super Bowl. Mr. pot calling the kettle black.
 

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You're the freaking crybaby crying because the league came clean on the catch, and you don't know what that catch would've meant to the Cowboys chances at a Super Bowl. Mr. pot calling the kettle black.
Dre just came in and dropped cluster bombs.
I like that...
 
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