congresswoman gabrielle giffords shot in tucson

[CowboyMcCoy]

Just judging from the information coming out, I don't think an insanity defense would get very far. If they're finding things he wrote such as targeting Rep. Giffords, "I planned this alone," and the like, he's gonna fry.

He may very well be insane. But the insanity defense is only effective to avoid a conviction (and likely death penalty) if the insanity rendered him unable to realize what he was doing, and that it was wrong.

Just a knee-jerk opinion taken from snippets of information I've seen, so take it FWIW.

You can't have a premeditated/insanity defense. It this was clearly premeditated.

 

[kristie]

or a miracle depending on your belief

i think it's a miracle.

 

[casmith07]

Tuscon plans to shield the girl's funeral from those idiot church protesters from the Westboro Baptist Church:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/11/arizona.funeral.westboro/index.html?hpt=T1

 

[theebs]

Tuscon plans to shield the girl's funeral from those idiot church protesters from the Westboro Baptist Church:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/11/arizona.funeral.westboro/index.html?hpt=T1

ugghh those people.
they should be locked up for being insane.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Tuscon plans to shield the girl's funeral from those idiot church protesters from the Westboro Baptist Church:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/11/arizona.funeral.westboro/index.html?hpt=T1

That is great news. Topeka is just down the road so everything they do makes the news. I am sooooooo sick and tired of them and their stupid beliefs I can't change the TV channel fast enough when they come on.

 

[DallasGirl50]

It's been 6 months. And I still cry like a baby over my daughter, like it was yesterday. People told me it would get better. It hasn't. I don't think it will. Ruins your life, pretty much. They have a long, tough road ahead. No words can begin to explain it either. Maybe "tormented", but that's still not a strong enough word to describe what their future days, months and years will be like--having lost the most precious thing on earth.

I'm so mad. The politicians I feel only a little sorry for. But the girl, man, who would have evil in them to do that?

I hope this guy is the first publicized execution to be nationally televised. I hate anyone who harms a child, or murders someone without just cause.

This guy is a complete twit. I have my beef with the government, but you won't catch me using violence against them.

All this did was make politicians, who are already hard to access, nearly impossible to access now because of all the future security precautions.

The alarmists will be out in full-force now. Ironically, he created exactly a situation I believe he was fighting against.

But that's what morons like this do.

I'm so sorry for your loss.

 

[MonsterD]

Tuscon plans to shield the girl's funeral from those idiot church protesters from the Westboro Baptist Church:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/11/arizona.funeral.westboro/index.html?hpt=T1

How do these people even exist? Can we deport them to the Middle East or something?

Link to their message after the shooting

 

[DFWJC]

Tuscon plans to shield the girl's funeral from those idiot church protesters from the Westboro Baptist Church:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/11/arizona.funeral.westboro/index.html?hpt=T1

To even call them anything remotely related to true christians would be comical if it were not so sad. They represent the worst with their finger-pointing and grave stomping--and in the process drive more people away from Christianity than any atheist ever could.

They represent that remote 1% , yet some in the press will make it sound like they are some kind of norm...scary stuff.

 

[Hostile]

Tuscon plans to shield the girl's funeral from those idiot church protesters from the Westboro Baptist Church:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/11/arizona.funeral.westboro/index.html?hpt=T1

Oh, I may go to jail. I am dead serious too. If I get a chance to fight those people I am going to. I will be finding out where to volunteer this morning.

 

[peplaw06]

Regardless of the verdict, he'll spend the rest of his life in a mental institution.

I'm confused... Are you saying he will avoid the death penalty for sure, or that even if he gets the death penalty he will be in a mental institution? I figure if he gets the death penalty he's going to be in solitary until the time of the execution. The feds also don't play around with executions. He'll be in Terra Haute, and he won't be there no 20 years waiting to be executed.

You can't have a premeditated/insanity defense. It this was clearly premeditated.

Generally you're right. I suppose you could have an insanity defense if you prove the guy planned everything when he was crazy. But I would think it's extremely unlikely.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Oh, I may go to jail. I am dead serious too. If I get a chance to fight those people I am going to. I will be finding out where to volunteer this morning.

I would love to fly out there and be with you. I hate these people more than I can say on this forum.

 

[bbgun]

I would love to fly out there and be with you. I hate these people more than I can say on this forum.

They really are sub-human. For these supposedly God-fearing activists to intentionally compound the mourners' suffering is evil.

 

[theebs]

Oh, I may go to jail. I am dead serious too. If I get a chance to fight those people I am going to. I will be finding out where to volunteer this morning.

They are not even worth your time. they are not worth anyones time.

They should be completely ignored so that they go away.

 

[Hostile]

I would love to fly out there and be with you. I hate these people more than I can say on this forum.

You can say it via PM to me.

I left a message with the Patriot Guard Riders. If they are coming (maybe not since these are not soldiers) I will ride with them. If they are not coming I will be part of the wings project to keep these jerks at bay.

I wish there was a way to find out where these creeps are staying. Picket those motels and follow them to any restaurant where they try to eat. They do not deserve food. They do not deserve lodging. They do not deserve respect. I wish there was a website that could tell you this information so rallies could be prepared to stop them.

 

[Hostile]

They are not even worth your time. they are not worth anyones time.

They should be completely ignored so that they go away.

If I were to get a good running start at old Fred, he would be hit with a vicious flying tackle followed by a ground and pound until the cops pulled me off. I'll take my chances on a jury trial.

I think these monsters should be deported out of the US and not allowed back. I do not care about their freedom of speech.

 

[theebs]

If I were to get a good running start at old Fred, he would be hit with a vicious flying tackle followed by a ground and pound until the cops pulled me off. I'll take my chances on a jury trial.

I think these monsters should be deported out of the US and not allowed back. I do not care about their freedom of speech.

I hear ya. I cant imagine anyone else thinks the way they do.

That is why I said, they should be ignored. They are constantly a topic in the news and on the internet all because of how moronic they are.

Its like they just do it for the attention.

That is why I would hate to think you could do some own harm to yourself in confronting them.

I imagine the news cycle will be monitoring them closely and anything that happens with them will be a story. Which is a shame because they are not a story, nor worthy of one.

They are just more fodder for the screwed up 24/7 news cycle so many people consume.

 

[burmafrd]

Its a cult. The entire family is basically the so called congregation. They do it for attention and to make money. It has NOTHING to do with any religion in reality.

I would like to take every adult and tie them up in their church and then burn it down and listen to them scream for mercy as they burned. I am sure the Devil will give them a warm welcome as well.

 

[casmith07]

You can say it via PM to me.

I left a message with the Patriot Guard Riders. If they are coming (maybe not since these are not soldiers) I will ride with them. If they are not coming I will be part of the wings project to keep these jerks at bay.

I wish there was a way to find out where these creeps are staying. Picket those motels and follow them to any restaurant where they try to eat. They do not deserve food. They do not deserve lodging. They do not deserve respect. I wish there was a website that could tell you this information so rallies could be prepared to stop them.

Sounds like a project to undertake....

 

[casmith07]

If I were to get a good running start at old Fred, he would be hit with a vicious flying tackle followed by a ground and pound until the cops pulled me off. I'll take my chances on a jury trial.

I think these monsters should be deported out of the US and not allowed back. I do not care about their freedom of speech.

It would only be assault and battery. You'd likely be able to settle out of court

 

[DFWJC]

Its a cult. The entire family is basically the so called congregation. They do it for attention and to make money. It has NOTHING to do with any religion in reality.

I would like to take every adult and tie them up in their church and then burn it down and listen to them scream for mercy as they burned. I am sure the Devil will give them a warm welcome as well.

I can't stand those people either.

But don't you think that's just a little over the top?