congresswoman gabrielle giffords shot in tucson

[Hostile]

Despite this tragedy, I live in a wonderful community.

 

[Hostile]

I needed that.

 

[5Stars]

The biggest flag recovered from 9/11 will be displayed at the little girl's funeral tomorrow.

That is nuts. At the pub that I go play at, has a HUGE flagpole with a HUGE Flag! It's cold here in Utah...but that half-mast Flag was beautiful. There was no wind to blow it into the sky...it hung there so beautiful.

Good things are happening...some bad, most good.

 

[The Fonz]

Oh this news just made my day. They are going to protest near my daughter's High School. I have no idea why, but it so close to my house that I can walk down there and take care of letting them know they are not welcome here.

If I am not at the funeral barricade at the same time.

This may change those plans. It is too convenient.

Maybe they are reading this forum

 

[Kevinicus]

I will take my chances on a trial by jury because I do not believe a jury in this state will convict me.

I probably will not do anything to get arrested, but their hate agenda is not going to get the attention they want.

Judging by this thread, I think it already has...and then some.

 

[Hostile]

Judging by this thread, I think it already has...and then some.

Nonsense. No one in here has been affected in any way. This is conversation.

 

[Faerluna]

This really got me this morning.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/...st-victim-in-arizona-shooting/?iref=allsearch

"Mulgrew said when a child dies it hits the monks particularly hard. He said they don't like to sell children's caskets; instead, a "child casket fund" they started often covers the costs."

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Nonsense. No one in here has been affected in any way. This is conversation.

actually Manbearpig is right, we are all discussing them, tha tis what they want

 

[WV Cowboy]

actually Manbearpig is right, we are all discussing them, tha tis what they want

What do they gain from a Cowboys message board talking about them?

 

[YosemiteSam]

What do they gain from a Cowboys message board talking about them?

As they say, even bad publicity is good publicity if being known is what is important to you.

 

[Hostile]

actually Manbearpig is right, we are all discussing them, tha tis what they want

What support have they received? If all of us are in agreement that they are morons then they have had no platform. They believe they need to do this to reach people and inform them of their evil ways. Have you been informed? I haven't.

 

[Hostile]

I just got back from the shooting site. WBC is nowhere to be seen and they also did not picket the little girl's funeral as they promised. I think tomorrow is the pickets they really want. Judge Roll's funeral.

Not if I can help it.

I was told today by a biker friend that the local Hell's Angels are planning to invite them to leave Tucson and never come back.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

they don't care about support, just being talked about

 

[Doomsday101]

Not sure how many may know this but the little girl Christina-Taylor Green is the grand daughter of former Philadelphia Phillies HC Dallas Green

 

[justbob]

"We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." ~ Ronald Reagan


Had to stick my 2 cents in

 

[WV Cowboy]

As they say, even bad publicity is good publicity if being known is what is important to you.

I realize that, but I am pretty sure most people in America never get on this board.

If this is the audience they sought, it is a miserable fail.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I realize that, but I am pretty sure most people in America never get on this board.

If this is the audience they sought, it is a miserable fail.

except you can be certain it is not the only board discussing it, and as I have been told by those who say not to get ahead of myself game wise, what is said here apparently has an effect on society.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I realize that, but I am pretty sure most people in America never get on this board.

If this is the audience they sought, it is a miserable fail.

ANY publicity by these loons is good publicity for them.

Even some random sports message board with some guy on it claiming he will go down and put an end to this or whatever.

The best method to deal with these people is not to act all billy bad arse against them. That is just what they want.

They want to get under people's skin. They want people to come at them all tough and then get them riled some more until they do something to them and then they will turn around and sue sue sue.

They are about the money, publicity and lunacy.

So, even if it is just this one sports board that some may never read, that the Phelps clan may never know existed...they have done their job because they already have one guy from the board willing to go down there if they show up.

So they have achieved their goals.

The only way to combat these guys is to ignore them, or go down there and make complete fun of them while managing not to get angry at what they say.

Besides that, just getting the city to enact an ordinance that puts a distance between funerals and where they can have their demonstrations.

It is flat out stupid, and falling right into their traps, to go down to confront them with any kind of anger or attitude that you will show them.

I bet they hope the hells angels come down and threaten them, that way they can sue the members of the hells angels. That would be just what they want.

If people go down with funny signs, go down with smiles, go down laughing and not get into a shouting match or getting angry at them...they will quickly bore of it and move on without any provocation of suing or causing too much of a scene.

Being a billy bad arse, being a tough guy, being a guy or group of guys who think they will go down and show them, who thinks they can go down and threaten them and that line of thinking is pure stupidity and it is exactly what they want.

Sadly, more times than not, it is what happens. And this is the exact reason that a small church, with a small number of members that are almost exclusively family...has the money to go all over the US at the drop of a dime in order to demonstrate.

Think about that for a moment.

They are a small church. How can a small church, with around 70 members, raise the kind of money to continually travel around the united states many times a year. It is because they make money doing it from dumb people who think they will go down there and show those crazies a thing or two. They have no connections with the baptists church, they are clearly on their own. They are almost all exclusively family members.

They have picketed around 30k different times. They have picketed in every state in the US and the last time I read they spent around $200-300k a Year...A YEAR on their projects. Think about that...for a church that only has around 70 members.

The main man is a Lawyer, however I think he has been disbarred. His one daughter is more of a head of the church now and she is a lawyer. Actually I think there a number of lawyers in that family now.

They are a disgusting group of individuals...but they make their money doing that and they make it off of people who think they will show them how things are, people who will put them in their place, people who will go down and threaten them, people who would do physical violence against them.

Again...around 70 members yet they are spending $200-300 thousand a year on their pickets across the USA.

 

[casmith07]

I just got back from the shooting site. WBC is nowhere to be seen and they also did not picket the little girl's funeral as they promised. I think tomorrow is the pickets they really want. Judge Roll's funeral.

Not if I can help it.

I was told today by a biker friend that the local Hell's Angels are planning to invite them to leave Tucson and never come back.

Seriously, Hos? That could get ugly...I know a lot of us talk about what we would like to do to those "church" members, but HAMC doesn't fool around.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

ANY publicity by these loons is good publicity for them.

Even some random sports message board with some guy on it claiming he will go down and put an end to this or whatever.

The best method to deal with these people is not to act all billy bad arse against them. That is just what they want.

They want to get under people's skin. They want people to come at them all tough and then get them riled some more until they do something to them and then they will turn around and sue sue sue.

They are about the money, publicity and lunacy.

So, even if it is just this one sports board that some may never read, that the Phelps clan may never knows existed...they have done their job because they already have on guy from the board willing to go down there if they show up.

So they have achieved their goals.

The only way to combat these guys is to ignore them, or go down there and make complete fun of them while managing not to get angry at what they say.

Besides that, just getting the city to enact an ordinance that puts a distance between funerals and where they can have their demonstrations.

It is flat out stupid, and falling right into their traps, to go down to confront them with any kind of anger or attitude that you will show them.

I bet the hope the hells angels come down and threaten them, that way they can sue the members of the hells angels. That would be just what they want.

If people go down with funny signs, go down with smiles, go down laughing and not get into a shouting match or getting angry at them...they will quickly bore of it and move on without any provocation of suing or causing too much of a scene.

Being a billy bad arse, being a tough guy, being a guy or group of guys who think they will go down and show them, who thinks they can go down and threaten them and that line of thinking is pure stupidity and it is exactly what they want.

Sadly, more times than not, it is what happens. And this is the exact reason that a small church, with a small number of members that are almost exclusively family...has the money to fly all over the US at the drop of a dime in order to demonstrate.

Think about that for a moment.

They are a small church. How can a small church, with around 70 members, raise the kind of money to continually travel around the united states many times a year. It is because they make money doing it from dumb people who think they will go down there and show those crazies a thing or two. They have no connections with the baptists church, they are clearly on their own. They are almost all exclusively family members.

They have picketed around 30k different times. They have picketed in every state in the US and the last time I read they spent around $200-300k a Year...A YEAR on their projects. Think about that...for a church that only has around 70 members.

The main man is a Lawyer, however I think he has been disbarred. His one daughter is more of a head of the church now and she is a lawyer. Actually I think there a number of lawyers in that family now.

They are a disgusting group of individuals...but they make their money doing that and they make it off of people who think they will show them how things are, people who will put them in their place, people who will go down and threaten them, people who would do physical violence against them.

Again...around 70 members yet they are spending $200-300 thousand a year on their pickets across the USA.

+1, they are getting exactly what they want