Cooper Rush thread **merged**

[Vinnie2u]

I don't know if Rush is the backup QB answer. Sample size is still too small. However I do know that Moore is horrible. He does not have the arm strength for this league.

 

[Tabascocat]

I'll say it again. If the Dallas Cowboys make Kellen Moore the backup QB it will prove to all of us that there really hasn't been HUGE changes in the philosophy of the organization. It will also signify that competition doesn't mean much and that when JG talks about it, it's more coach talk and BS than anything. Cooper Rush has outplayed KM by a mile. It's not even close. In fact KM has looked so bad that I feel embarrassed for him. Was he this bad before the injury, or did he completely lose it? The bottom line is I would hope that the DC FO has grown enough over the last twenty one years and learned from mistakes like this. I guess we will find out...

Something stinks if Moore was already guaranteed back-up no matter how he plays. There is still time for things to straighten out but I suspect Moore has hit his very low ceiling. If he was already penciled in, something is definitely wrong here........

 

[Section446]

I still feel like they'll give Moore the nod. Garrett sees too much of himself in Moore.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

if Dak gets injured and Moore comes in:
1 and 10, 3 yard pass to the outlet
2 and 7, 3 yard pass to the outlet
3 and 4, 3 yard pass to the outlet, punt on 4th down.

Moore has exactly the same number of NFL wins at Rush, ZERO!

If Moore had not been injured last year, we probably would have been in the Mitch Trubisky sweepstakes this past draft, without giving Dak a chance.

 

[Nirvana]

Dak post-game: "I'm one of Cooper's biggest fans... I passed around applications for his fan club."

http://www.dallascowboys.com/video/2017/08/20/dak-prescott-first-preseason-reps-dez-chemistry

 

[GORICO]

Most likely, Rush will get waived, then re-signed to the practice squad.

Every team has a Cooper Rush that the fans are slobbering over. Teams aren't going to sign a young QB to their 53 and waste a spot on them.

But we'll see.

erod---no way every team has a rook playing like Cooper Rush..no way he would make it through waivers

 

[GORICO]

Not true
Kid looks like he has a real chance
If we waive him to keep Moore we're idiots

vlsionary--- 1000% correct

 

[GORICO]

Cooper Rush is now hands down the Dallas Cowboys backup QB, fellas...and Ladies!

i totally agree i am just afraid cowboys front office is brain dead in love with Moore???

 

[GORICO]

If this doesn't change Linehan's mind about Moore, I have to assume Moore has some very incriminating pictures or videos or Linehan. Moore is a noodle arm scrub.

I want to see Rush and Moore flip roles next game. And have Rush start the final preseason game.

exactly--if this does not change linehan's mind then Moore has some real incriminating stuff on him...Moore looks horrible...and this is preseason..vanilla defense...if Rush gets cut something real fishy is going on in front office

 

[GORICO]

Babe completely dismissed the notion of Rush being the back up. My question is why? Experience? Sure Moore has it but what kind of experience? The guy can't play.

Babe has it backwards---all of Moores experience and time in this system and playing vanilla defenses in preason and he looks like this?????...Rush no experience never been in this system..often has worse players then moore to work with and completely outplays Moore to the bone....Babe is being paid off in my opinion

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

Most likely, Rush will get waived, then re-signed to the practice squad.

Every team has a Cooper Rush that the fans are slobbering over. Teams aren't going to sign a young QB to their 53 and waste a spot on them.

But we'll see.

No way! He gets waived, he's gone. There's about 20 teams who would grab him in a heartbeat.

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...erned-about-kellen-moore-as-no-2-quarterback/

Cowboys growing concerned about Kellen Moore as No. 2 quarterback

Clarence E. Hill Jr. of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports, citing an unnamed source, that Moore “will be the subject of conversation at personnel meetings this week” after another subpar preseason performance.





Moore completed less than 50 percent of his passes (10 for 21) for 131 yards and a quarterback rating of 67.8. He also lost a fumble that was returned for a touchdown.

Officially, the Cowboys continue to say all (or at least most) of the right things about the player who could be the wrong man both to replace Prescott if injured and to push Prescott to be as good as he can be.

“He’s a very smart player, makes good decisions,” coach Jason Garrett said, per Hill. “I thought he threw the ball to the right guy a lot. I think the biggest thing if you look at his drives is we got behind the chains a little bit, had some holding penalties and you’re looking at some tough down-and-distances. And it’s hard to overcome that. But I thoguht he handled that stuff for the most part pretty well and just kept trying to execute ball plays. He will continue to do that.”
If the Cowboys don’t look outside the organization for a backup to Prescott, they could decide to make Cooper Rush the No. 2 option.

“I’m just glad to see Rush taking advantage of his opportunities out there,” owner Jerry Jones said, via Hill. “Wouldn’t want to get ahead of ourselves in any way here. And the other thing is that we still have a lot of confidence in [Moore], his ability to be able to get in there when we would call on him with the personnel around him and get the ball in the right places. Make no mistake about it, that Rush, it just gets slow when he gets out there. That’s a compliment.”

What the hell good is it to know who to throw the ball to, if you throw it so tight to the sideline, the guy has almost zero chance to keep his feet in? I'm not big on preseason mania, but this kid is one of the greatest all-time passers in college history. He made several excellent throws while rolling out. How many of those can Moore make?!

 

[ConstantReboot]

It would be great if we could finally be one of those teams that has a backup that teams want to trade a 1st round pick for.

Right now Cooper Rush is outplaying all of the QBs that were highly drafted in this years draft including Mitch Trabinsky.

Trabinsky is actually playing pretty well. He has great mobility and has a rifle of an arm. Just that he doesn't have the touch that Cooper Rush has. Cooper looks more poised in the pocket and has good command of the offense. Just like some other rookie last year who was lighting it up during preseason. Sorry but that other QBs name escapes me for some reason.

 

[rpntex]

He also played with 3s and 4s. Put him with 1s and 2s and he may look even better. The fact is that he commands the offense, makes the throws, and gets results. He has an NFL arm and his passes are accurate. He has the ability to grow into a very good QB. Moore is what he is, a poor excuse for an NFL QB. If Dak goes down, Moore will do nothing but lose games. Rush at least has shown an ability to keep the offense moving and will do nothing but improve. Rush is the guy you keep for the future.

I agree with what you're saying, but it's just not that simple. Roster spots are a precious commodity anyway, and in Dallas' case, the injuries to DL, DB, & WR are going to force the Cowboys to keep some guys who'd be cut otherwise. For instance, I think Dallas has to keep an extra DB or two until Lewis, Woods, Awuzie, and co. Are healthy. Those "extra" DB/ are going to take up roster spots that could go to a 3rd QB. I can truly see a scenario where Dallas has to make a choice between keeping three QBs and having reasonable depth at other position groups. And unless this coaching staff sees Rush perform against better competition, he's not going to supplant Moore on the depth chart.

The ideal scenario would be for Rush to start and play well against 1s and 2s in these last two preseason games. If that happens, they might be more willing to trust the keys to the offense to him.

 

[rpntex]

How did you come to conclusion Rush only played vs 3s and 4s, but none of the 2s?

As for Moore, he has only played in 3 regular season games, and only 1 game he won, against Washingtons backup defense and for the most part, banged up secondary. If you call that success in this league. Rush I am pretty sure can do that.

I qualified Moore's success by saying "some" success, which is accurate. In other words, he's had more success against better competition than has Rush.

Look, I'd like nothing better than to see Rush get the opportunity, but my point of view in this discussion is what I believe the coaching staff feels. I just don't believe they're going to trust the backup spot to Rush without him showing them something against better competition.

 

[rpntex]

Yes we were. When Moore got hurt did we panic and sign a vet?

Actually, Dallas had a deal working with Nick Foles, but chose to go elsewhere. By the time a Moore got hurt, Dallas had seen Dak show enough to go vet him the chance to earn his spot.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

QBs never succeed with the 3rd team Oline, it's easier with the 2's and even easier with the 1's. Leading even a casually educated fan to observe that Cooper Rush could likely excel in the NFL as a starting QB.

 

[pansophy]

I still feel like they'll give Moore the nod. Garrett sees too much of himself in Moore.

Garrett was a #3 for much of his career, not a #2. So your argument could work against Moore since few teams carry 3 QBs now.

 

[SlammedZero]

Sounds like Rush is getting to work with the second team. If he has a bad game I will rush (see what I did there) to this board to watch the meltdown. Lol

 

[cowboyblue22]

the only thing I know is what my eyes tell me when I watch cooper rush and moore play qb one is pretty good the other one is not very good