Cooper should not be in NFL

[blueblood70]

Cooper is what he is, A career backup and a serviceable one at that.

Too many cowboys fans think the backup has to be better than the starter and the third stringer to be better than the second stringer.

Not better than starter but better backup with more upside or a steve burlein or foles type that truly can keep it going but Rush aint that my man..Id like a younger payer that can be always developing at 2 and when called upn simply keep it moving not special but again you guys are still living on the fumes that this guy did anything in 2022 and he did not stop letting that record fool you he did not have good stats he didn't do anything special nothing he did during that stretch and we all tried to tell you that was on him that was a special kind of run game offensive line defense even the special teams contributing that little run didn't last long anybody could have won during that stretch and he still struggled to not turn the ball over and to score the football he had our offense in the bottom 10 with absolute perfect scenario around him he was struggling if you didn't see it you weren't looking that's not what I want here yes guys doing all he can he be a great #3 emergency quarterback we need a developing younger player in that position you know one of these guys that other teams have picked up and eventually they ended up somehow reinventing their career I'm not talking about Baker Mayfield he really wasn't a backup for too long I'm talking about guys like Geno Smith Sam darnold Zach Wilson or these other guys that you see like even tyrod Taylor or get a garoppolo tight that may have been there but they can still do something in short bursts but you gotta get the younger version of these guys lie when Brissett was doing solid work as a B/U , or player when their team gives up on them like soon Bryce young might be that next guy.. But I think that's where we're missing the point here it's nothing against Cooper but I think you should always have a guy at #2 because it doesn't matter anyway right I mean you're not probably going anywhere with your backup if the rest of your team is struggling so why not have a developing guy getting all the snaps you never know when he's gonna have the light come on and it's just gonna start working for him...

I realize we're trying that with Trey Lance but he should have been the number 2 all along and you're gonna give a #4 for a guy you put Cooper Rush on the practice squad or protect him as the number three but we put him on the practice squad before nobody takes him nobody no other team has tried to take Cooper Ross from the Dallas Cowboys not even the coaches that left here have pursued him anybody could have had him at any time he's been unprotected so many times and if you guys can't clearly see we're not trying to hate on the guy but I think some of us want different guys in that role..

I think the Dallas Cowboys have wasted a moment all these games I think yes the first game after Prescott went down finished that game let Cooper rush start the next game but this whole time telling Trey Lance to get ready in practice because he's gonna be the starter the rest of the year that's what you do when you give a number for for a player and you still don't know what he can do in live games over a longer stretch you need to exhaust all that on every young player we have on this team and we're still trying to win games Cooper rush isn't even one of the top backups... Serviceable would be overrated yes he could do a few things here and there but so can just about any backup with enough time with the team I'd rather have a developing guy in that spot all the time.. And yes you can put a guy like Cooper rush protected as the number 3 emergency guy on the practice squad you get a guy off the street there's been guys on the street like Joe Flacco or similar I mean I saw the eagles do it like I don't know 6-7 years ago they picked up that 40 year old quarterback brother's been in the league he played pretty good I think it was a playoff game I can't remember it was a game for the playoffs you can get one of those tights off the street and get them ready in one day they don't need that much time to warm up every offense is very similar and most of these guys are still working out in the gym a little they're throwing the football you can get one of those if you really think you're on a run and need to replace your hurt elite starter with a veteran you can just go get one..

 

[CyberB0b]

His arm was shot half way through the 3rd quarter if not before. His throws were not as crisp, nor as accurate, which is not saying much to begin with.

They should have put in Lance with a fresh arm and could run if needed.

Jerry and MM fear what some Trey haters fear. That he will succeed.

I've been defending him, but yeah, he's looking like Brad Johnson when he was on the way out. He can't throw it more than 10 yards. He's cooked.

 

[blueblood70]

He’s a FA next year so it’s bye anyway. But I’d play him just because I’m happier with a high draft pick than any meaningless win

maybe but just what if Lance has a pretty solid showing each game gets better he starts to show something he comes back here for cheating I mean nobody knows I'm just saying who else is going to pick him up we have to see this that's what this interview is for this is the best preseason anyway you can ask for real games two games game plans where you can get to know your players and get comfortable more and more with each game why not? That's the problem with this coaching staff is they're not looking at it that way and I'm sorry you can blame Jerry all you want I'm saying you're flat out wrong Jerry's not making people play certain people he may say it but he has no control in the field once the game starts if Jerry's sitting up there and you try it out Ezekiel Elliott and Cooper rush for the first series what's he gonna do with the mike McCarthy puts in lance and whomever he wants, fire him LMao??!!?? what the hell is mike mccarthy have to lose? .... going to get a high draft pick either way why not have to waste the 4th , and let him walk and not see him in real games lie tell him you are starting no matter how you play you wont be pulled, GO PLAY SON!! to me that the best plan

But once again this staff, this gm, they still want to win and use Rush??why we know who rush is, we do NOT truly know what lance is in say 4 straight starts no pressure leave him in barring injury with the starters...,we have NOT seen that a no pressure long stint with starters. Live games gamepolans etc

 

[conner01]

maybe but just what if Lance has a pretty solid showing each game gets better he starts to show something he comes back here for cheating I mean nobody knows I'm just saying who else is going to pick him up we have to see this that's what this interview is for this is the best preseason anyway you can ask for real games two games game plans where you can get to know your players and get comfortable more and more with each game why not? That's the problem with this coaching staff is they're not looking at it that way and I'm sorry you can blame Jerry all you want I'm saying you're flat out wrong Jerry's not making people play certain people he may say it but he has no control in the field once the game starts if Jerry's sitting up there and you try it out Ezekiel Elliott and Cooper rush for the first series what's he gonna do with the mike McCarthy puts in lance and whomever he wants, fire him LMao??!!?? what the hell is mike mccarthy have to lose? .... going to get a high draft pick either way why not have to waste the 4th , and let him walk and not see him in real games lie tell him you are starting no matter how you play you wont be pulled, GO PLAY SON!! to me that the best plan

But once again this staff, this gm, they still want to win and use Rush??why we know who rush is, we do NOT truly know what lance is in say 4 straight starts no pressure leave him in barring injury with the starters...,we have NOT seen that a no pressure long stint with starters. Live games gamepolans etc

I’d play him but we seen in pre season he didn’t get better. The staff of two teams have seen he didn’t get better. But that aside I’d play him and every young player on the roster. Get them reps, experience and tape to judge them by. The season is lost and the perfect time to develop and evaluate the unknowns because you need them next year. I’m all for playing Lance but no desire to pay him another penny after this season. I’ve seen enough and it appears the staff has too. Assuming this was the staffs decision. This may very well be a Jerry decision because he still wants wins. But that shows how little Jerry thinks past the moment. Losing out gives us the best chance to be better next year. And we could be much better. We’ve had so many key players out and with a top 10 pick we can add some much needed talent and with guys like bland, Williams and more of others who have missed multiple games, we can be much better next year. We could really improve if we just added a solid DT and keep one of our own FA. But doubt Jerry goes out and gets a solid DT though he bay keep some of our own

 

[stinkface]

There are 25 college QBs right now who would be better. He’s absolutely a waste of a roster spot. In the 30 years I’ve watched high level Texas and Louisiana football, there are some HS QBs who could do better right now.

God click bait on the Cowboys forum. Who would have thought this would happen. Geez.

 

[shabazz]

Neither should Deshaun Watson....

 

[shabazz]

God click bait on the Cowboys forum. Who would have thought this would happen. Geez.

God would not approve of our team too. Leave him out of it!

 

[stinkface]

God would not approve of our team too. Leave him out of it!

He sure wouldn't I agree.

 

[9of11]

Cooper Rush is a typical NFL backup QB....Dak had no success with this current team...Cooper had no chance to be anything but what he has shown to be....a decent backup QB on a very bad team that the starting QB couldn't do anything with...Lance will do no more than what Cooper could do...maybe run more...just blow it up and move on...start building a new team...so let this team suck for the next three years or until Arch Manning comes out...and take him....for me, a five win or less for the next few years is needed...we've waited 30 years....a few more wont hurt....

 

[blueblood70]

I’d play him but we seen in pre season he didn’t get better. The staff of two teams have seen he didn’t get better. But that aside I’d play him and every young player on the roster. Get them reps, experience and tape to judge them by. The season is lost and the perfect time to develop and evaluate the unknowns because you need them next year. I’m all for playing Lance but no desire to pay him another penny after this season. I’ve seen enough and it appears the staff has too. Assuming this was the staffs decision. This may very well be a Jerry decision because he still wants wins. But that shows how little Jerry thinks past the moment. Losing out gives us the best chance to be better next year. And we could be much better. We’ve had so many key players out and with a top 10 pick we can add some much needed talent and with guys like bland, Williams and more of others who have missed multiple games, we can be much better next year. We could really improve if we just added a solid DT and keep one of our own FA. But doubt Jerry goes out and gets a solid DT though he bay keep some of our own

preseason is not game planning preseason is not having more of your better players around you that have played some preseason isn't live bullets playing around you and it's a different atmosphere none of our starters played in the preseason with him and I know we're down a bunch of guys and there's a bunch of injuries but it's completely different and who cares if we see them already who cares we wanna see him for four or five real games what's the point of playing RUSH, he's plateaued.,, he will never get better he will only get worse there's no reason to play Cooper rush right now you might as well see what Lance can do the rest of the way and every young player you can afford to put in there with him you're wasting bad games by not getting young players on the field who cares whether we're gonna keep him anymore or pass this year you should still see what you have he could end up turning into a player I don't know like the New Orleans Saints you know they're Swiss army knife guy on offense supposed to be a quarterback but really isn't he does everything but do much quarterbacking..

you might as well see what you got in the player period you wasted a fourth round pick on him you might as well play him just for that fact alone he took up a fourth round pick he should play the last four games of the season without being interrupted no threat of being pulled off the field game plans better players around him I don't see why you don't get that the mansion at least play 4 game for us after we wasted A4 rounder..

 

[conner01]

preseason is not game planning preseason is not having more of your better players around you that have played some preseason isn't live bullets playing around you and it's a different atmosphere none of our starters played in the preseason with him and I know we're down a bunch of guys and there's a bunch of injuries but it's completely different and who cares if we see them already who cares we wanna see him for four or five real games what's the point of playing RUSH, he's plateaued.,, he will never get better he will only get worse there's no reason to play Cooper rush right now you might as well see what Lance can do the rest of the way and every young player you can afford to put in there with him you're wasting bad games by not getting young players on the field who cares whether we're gonna keep him anymore or pass this year you should still see what you have he could end up turning into a player I don't know like the New Orleans Saints you know they're Swiss army knife guy on offense supposed to be a quarterback but really isn't he does everything but do much quarterbacking..

you might as well see what you got in the player period you wasted a fourth round pick on him you might as well play him just for that fact alone he took up a fourth round pick he should play the last four games of the season without being interrupted no threat of being pulled off the field game plans better players around him I don't see why you don't get that the mansion at least play 4 game for us after we wasted A4 rounder..

I’m all for playing him but I don’t think he can play myself. He struggled in SF with a good roster around him and has struggled here in camp and practice. But I’d play everyone. We need the young players getting reps. If llc be playing bass at guard some too. Give him a quarter, and Hoffman. Let’s see what they have. I’m not saying I wouldn’t plsy lsnce I just don’t think he can play but put him in because at this point it doesn’t matter. Right now losing IS winning for the future

 

[links18]

Doesn't matter. Jerry is obviously "comfortable" with Rush, which is priority #1.

 

[mattjames2010]

He's a backup and backups don't elevate teams. They need to be elevated.

Lance isn't going to come in and do a ton better.

 

[blueblood70]

I’m all for playing him but I don’t think he can play myself. He struggled in SF with a good roster around him and has struggled here in camp and practice. But I’d play everyone. We need the young players getting reps. If llc be playing bass at guard some too. Give him a quarter, and Hoffman. Let’s see what they have. I’m not saying I wouldn’t plsy lsnce I just don’t think he can play but put him in because at this point it doesn’t matter. Right now losing IS winning for the future

no that's not how it was he never got in any regular season games he was never healthy enough and all you're remembering is preseason and a guy who never really could practice enough and play enough to learn that very different type of offense is very complicated and that's all you guys remember that's what I'm talking about let this guy play with more starters going down the stretch with no pressure that you're gonna be because you can't be much worse than what we've seen already I don't get where you think this is a problem why you don't wanna see a man you're probably not gonna be here next year I wanna see the guy play the last four games and you tell him here go play with no pressure we're not pulling you unless you get hurt and I said while we're at it let's completely change the offense let's not make this easy on the opponent but Mike McCarthy doesn't know how to do this I would sit Cooper rush the rest of the way as the emergency 3rd and I would bring up will grier and I'd run rpos sweeps Wildcats the rest of the way I would make people respect something back there so then when you didn't wanna throw you might have some play action openings and at least for the fan base we see something new something different and what do we have to lose I don't get what you guys are against this I don't even know why you would wanna see Cooper Ross we've seen this dude he is what he is and if the intent is to organically lose anyway and take you might as well do it in a more fun manner I'd rather see a mobile guy and his backup being mobile rising up that's the rest of the way that makes it tough on our opponents because they haven't seen it..

Sure would be fun back there seeing a lot of misdirections and reverses and rpos fakes and a player that can actually run it and that would be Lance or will grier much more mobile and I mean just throw out the playbook and bring back just a few pages of plays like that that all based off rpos in a mobile quarterback I mean I was allowed to see Wildcat all of it let's just go crazy I don't see the point in ever playing Cooper rush ever again... That's my point I don't get it I don't care if Cooper rush is serviceable that's not what we need going down the stretch if we're gonna lose we might as well make it more fun and if Jerry's thinking he don't wanna lose the fan base attention that's already passed and if he wants to keep losing it he'll keep starting Cooper rush he says Cooper rush gives him a better chance to win and that might be true but wouldn't it be more fun for fans to come to games if you just created something fun down the stretch with mobile quarterbacks and it changes defensive strategies because they don't know what's coming yet it's gonna have a hard time adjusting to it in my opinion wouldn't that give you a better chance to win just scrapping what's happened the 1st 10 games?

 

[kskboys]

yeah man, I've been knowing it...

the team is a joke but they are at the end of the day not bad talent evaluators. If Trey Lance goes on a 3-4 game win streak that will cause even more turmoil in the long-term...

they chose to tuck their tale, take a high-draft pick and let Trey Lance's cap hit be the Sunk Cost...funny thing is they paid Dak 250M to trot him out there to do the same thing except EXPECT him to win the division and have buyers remorse so the development of Trey suffers at the end of the day. MM is also a lame duck, he has no say - probably wants to start Trey but was told him to shut up.

Not bad, terrible. Mazi, Kelvin, Schooner, Trysten, Brandon Carr, Eric Scott. The list is long showing that we are terrible talent evaluators.

 

[kskboys]

As scared as I am that Nathan Peterman will become an NFL star. I genuinely do not get how people can be so attached to the idea that someone who has been AWFUL every single time he gets a shot somehow just needs one more shot and he will show he is great.

If they wanted to grab the practice squad QBs on other teams and start them I would at least respect that more because at least those players have not been awful at the NFL level. You can at least argue they have not had a shot so they at least, however unlikely it honestly is, could actually be good. You cannot say that about Lance. We have seen him for 4 years at the NFL level now and he has not fixed any of the glaring red flags that make him unable to be an NFL QB.

By the way I do not think there is another Brock Purdy just sitting down on the depth chart who could quickly grow if given the chance but at least in this case that could be the case. I just want to know what people have seen from Lance, at literally any level, that makes people think he has what it takes to play QB in the NFL.

Trance has been extremely awful from the start. Think Paxton Lynch bad.

 

[CowboyFrog]

His arm was shot half way through the 3rd quarter if not before. His throws were not as crisp, nor as accurate, which is not saying much to begin with.

They should have put in Lance with a fresh arm and could run if needed.

Jerry and MM fear what some Trey haters fear. That he will succeed.

i dont think thats it at all, how would Lance succeeding hurt them at all? MM is as good as gone so any good film he could put out would be welcome...and Jerry hand picked the trade for Lance so he would look better if he could play...the problem is he cant play at all as we have seen every time he hits the field...shoud he play in my opinion..Hell yes run the wildcat with him, is he worth the 4th round pick we gave up...hells no..

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

i dont think thats it at all, how would Lance succeeding hurt them at all? MM is as good as gone so any good film he could put out would be welcome...and Jerry hand picked the trade for Lance so he would look better if he could play...the problem is he cant play at all as we have seen every time he hits the field...shoud he play in my opinion..Hell yes run the wildcat with him, is he worth the 4th round pick we gave up...hells no..

maybe jerry's plan is to resign him on the cheap. or at least that's his hope. if he picked up his 5th year option he would owe him 25M. would he be worth 25M for one year as a back up while still learning?
maybe he will try to sell him to stay, given how they have treated him and sell him on whichever coach he signs, specially if its Bilicheck.
playing him and risking him showing a little something is only going to raise his price.

 

[CowboyFrog]

maybe jerry's plan is to resign him on the cheap. or at least that's his hope. if he picked up his 5th year option he would owe him 25M. would he be worth 25M for one year as a back up while still learning?
maybe he will try to sell him to stay, given how they have treated him and sell him on whichever coach he signs, specially if its Bilicheck.
playing him and risking him showing a little something is only going to raise his price.

i think they are hiding him because he throws a pick on nearly every throw he throws..but i could be wrong..Jerry trying to save face after the trade.

 

[Brax]

i think they are hiding him because he throws a pick on nearly every throw he throws..but i could be wrong..Jerry trying to save face after the trade.

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