Cop Tasers Guy for Walking Away From Him

[heavyg]

LOL at the people that think it was ok for the cop to whip out the taser. The cop pulled it out at the first sign that the guy was not going to comply 100% with his wishes. A cop cannot do that. If a cop did that they'd pull out the taser at least once a week. That is not how you deal with a situation like this. The cop was 100% in the wrong.

I have a couple friends that are cops and I've e-mailed them to see what they have to say.

Well good for you. I work for a police department and am a reserve officer. I can tell you he did nothing wrong. A tazer is not considered lethal. It is to be used before hands on.

 

[Rack]

LOL at the people that think it was ok for the cop to whip out the taser. The cop pulled it out at the first sign that the guy was not going to comply 100% with his wishes. A cop cannot do that. If a cop did that they'd pull out the taser at least once a week. That is not how you deal with a situation like this. The cop was 100% in the wrong.

I have a couple friends that are cops and I've e-mailed them to see what they have to say.

Which is exactly what he should do.

A cop cannot do that.

The hell he can't.


The only one 100% in the wrong here is YOU.

 

[theogt]

Which is exactly what he should do.

No, it's not. A cop should not do that. That's precisely what he did wrong. If he can't diffuse the situation better than that then he doesn't have the mental makeup to be a cop.

 

[heavyg]

No, it's not. A cop should not do that. That's precisely what he did wrong. If he can't diffuse the situation better than that then he doesn't have the mental makeup to be a cop.

and you know this how? Have you ever been on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere with your closest back up possible 100s of miles away? People think its easy being a police officer. If you do I invite you to go to your local police dept and ask to ride along for a while. You will change your mind.

 

[Rack]

No, it's not. A cop should not do that. That's precisely what he did wrong. If he can't diffuse the situation better than that then he doesn't have the mental makeup to be a cop.

Wrong... again.


As usual.


He can pull a non lethal weapon at ANY point the subject does not comply. He only fired his "weapon" after the subject walked away. That's resisting arrest. He did exactly what he should have done.


If anyone doesn't have the mental makeup to be a cop, it's YOU. Like I said before, you would be dead in a week if you even made it passed the academy.

 

[theogt]

OMG, like it's non-lethal so he can pull it out and taser whoever he wants if they don't do exactly as he says.

No.

 

[heavyg]

OMG, like it's non-lethal so he can pull it out and taser whoever he wants if they don't do exactly as he says.

No.

Yeah if what he is telling him is put your hands behind your back your under arrest.

If your told your under arrest and you say no I am not and walk away.....Thats resisting arrest. Why is that so difficult for you to understand

 

[theogt]

and you know this how? Have you ever been on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere with your closest back up possible 100s of miles away? People think its easy being a police officer. If you do I invite you to go to your local police dept and ask to ride along for a while. You will change your mind.

Yes, at one point in college I considered being a cop. I did some ride alongs and had numerous friends that were cops. I know it's not an easy job, but I know you can't just pull out a taser at the first sign of adversity.

The cop will likely be suspended. And the department will probably settle with the guy for a sizable amount of money.

 

[heavyg]

Yes, at one point in college I considered being a cop. I did some ride alongs and had numerous friends that were cops. I know it's not an easy job, but I know you can't just pull out a taser at the first sign of adversity.

The cop will likely be suspended. And the department will probably settle with the guy for a sizable amount of money.

Well if you read the description for the video it states his department found he reacted reasonabally...So there it is. He was cleared.

 

[Blake]

Yes, at one point in college I considered being a cop. I did some ride alongs and had numerous friends that were cops. I know it's not an easy job, but I know you can't just pull out a taser at the first sign of adversity.

The cop will likely be suspended. And the department will probably settle with the guy for a sizable amount of money.

I cant wait until you get your own video on youtube. You sound like such a girl.

 

[theogt]

Yeah if what he is telling him is put your hands behind your back your under arrest.

If your told your under arrest and you say no I am not and walk away.....Thats resisting arrest. Why is that so difficult for you to understand

Uh...he pulled the taser before the guy even had a chance to put his hands behind his back and before he walked away. The guy didn't even know he was being put under arrest.

The problem is that he pulled the taser too quickly, which freaked the guy out and made him back up. THen the cop tased him for backing up.

I understand now why you're arguing with me -- you don't even know what happened.

 

[Kevinicus]

If some gang banger pulled a gun on you, would you argue with him??

If so, perhaps we should notify your life insurance provider, so they can drop you... you're a statistic waiting to happen...



No, he didn't... the stupidity was all on the part of the driver... ALL he had to do was sign the ticket, and he would have been on his way down the road, none the worse for wear...

With your attitude toward the law, I'm gonna hope you never get pulled over, because if you do, we'll likely be seeing a video of you gettin' your butt tasered on YouTube...

I think you need to watch the video again. He didn't argue with the cop when he pulled the gun, he backed away towards his vehicle (safety) because he was scared because it was obvious the cop had lost his mind and he didn't know what he was going to do.

In some places signing the ticket = guilty, no court. The cop asked him to get out of the car, didn't place him under arrest there, let him walk freely, didn't tell him he was under arrest. The guy walks back to the cop car, and points at the sign to show the cop what he was trying to tell him before. Completely normal. That is until the cop doesn't like the guy casually talking to him and trying to explain the situation as he saw it and whips out the tazer. The guy did absolutely NOTHING that was threatening to the officer. He gave no indication that he was going to resist at all. And he didn't resist, he backed away from a crazed lunatic.

You can say he should have done what the cop said after he pulled the gun, but the cop by asking the guy to follow him to the car and then instantly pulling a gun on him destroyed any chance of arresting the man peacefully. He did not give the man a chance to be arrested peacefully. He didn't give him a chance to comply to his orders to put his hands on the car.

My attitude towards police is just fine. They have a certain amount of authority, but they don't have unlimited power, and shouldn't be allowed to get away with trying to act like they do. I've argued tickets before, but unlike in this instance I wasn't forced to sign anything, and was able to go to court later. We aren't forced to sign tickets here. They give them to us and we mail them back signed with the fine, or go to court. And court isn't always an option for people, if you're hundreds of miles from home you can't exactly fight it, so you have to plead your case with the cop. In this case the cop didn't want to listen and just felt like tazing. It's not like the guy was arguing for a long time or being really belligerent or anything. He was simply trying to state his case, pretty calmly too.

 

[theogt]

Well if you read the description for the video it states his department found he reacted reasonabally...So there it is. He was cleared.

The latest news I can find on the subject just says that it's under review, and that a lawsuit is being filed.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

It's annoying when people look at things in a black/white way. The truth is both parties were wrong. The police officer should have spent more time explaining the consequences of failing to sign the ticket. Instead, he asks him to get out of his car and the puts him under arrest. Anyone in that situation would have been taken aback and confused. Had the cop simply explained that by signing the ticket, he wasn't admitting guilt and that he could still contest the ticket in court, and if he didn't sign it, he would be forced to place the driver under arrest. I'm pretty sure, the driver would have signed the ticket at that point.

The driver was wrong as well. When he was out of the car and the cop asks you to do something, you do it. You don't walk towards a cop and ignore his commands. At that point, the police officer was in his right to defend himself. Who knows what this driver was capable of doing. I don't think the cop was wrong for tasering him. Haven't you guys seen Cops? There are plenty of times where the driver acts like he is just casually walking toward the cop only to assault him to get away.

Still, I think the police officer is ultimately responsible. He is the one with the power in that situation. He could have showed more patience. Instead, it was obvious, the cop lost patience with the driver because he argued with him. I'm sorry but that's no excuse to ask the guy to step out of a car to arrest him. He should have done his job by explaining the consequences. The cop didn't want to do that and instead he just wanted to place him under arrest and get it over with.

 

[theogt]

I think you need to watch the video again. He didn't argue with the cop when he pulled the gun, he backed away towards his vehicle (safety) because he was scared because it was obvious the cop had lost his mind and he didn't know what he was going to do.

In some places signing the ticket = guilty, no court. The cop asked him to get out of the car, didn't place him under arrest there, let him walk freely, didn't tell him he was under arrest. The guy walks back to the cop car, and points at the sign to show the cop what he was trying to tell him before. Completely normal. That is until the cop doesn't like the guy casually talking to him and trying to explain the situation as he saw it and whips out the tazer. The guy did absolutely NOTHING that was threatening to the officer. He gave no indication that he was going to resist at all. And he didn't resist, he backed away from a crazed lunatic.

You can say he should have done what the cop said after he pulled the gun, but the cop by asking the guy to follow him to the car and then instantly pulling a gun on him destroyed any chance of arresting the man peacefully. He did not give the man a chance to be arrested peacefully. He didn't give him a chance to comply to his orders to put his hands on the car.

My attitude towards police is just fine. They have a certain amount of authority, but they don't have unlimited power, and shouldn't be allowed to get away with trying to act like they do.

Thank you. Obviously the cop is mentally unstable.

 

[heavyg]

Uh...he pulled the taser before the guy even had a chance to put his hands behind his back and before he walked away. The guy didn't even know he was being put under arrest.

The problem is that he pulled the taser too quickly, which freaked the guy out and made him back up. THen the cop tased him for backing up.

I understand now why you're arguing with me -- you don't even know what happened.

I saw the video. He did nothing wrong...With your way of thinking if he waited it could be his life. Moral of this story is don't act a fool and you wont get tazed. The tazer was not pulled to quickly. He pulled it....that should have been the dudes first clue he was serious about him putting his hands behind his back....had he complied at that point no tazer used

 

[theogt]

It's annoying when people look at things in a black/white way. The truth is both parties were wrong. The police officer should have spent more time explaining the consequences of failing to sign the ticket. Instead, he asks him to get out of his car and the puts him under arrest. Anyone in that situation would have been taken aback and confused. Had the cop simply explained that by signing the ticket, he wasn't admitting guilt and that he could still contest the ticket in court, and if he didn't sign it, he would be forced to place the driver under arrest. I'm pretty sure, the driver would have signed the ticket at that point.

The driver was wrong as well. When he was out of the car and the cop asks you to do something, you do it. You don't walk towards a cop and ignore his commands. At that point, the police officer was in his right to defend himself. Who knows what this driver was capable of doing. I don't think the cop was wrong for tasering him. Haven't you guys seen Cops? There are plenty of times where the driver acts like he is just casually walking toward the cop only to assault him to get away.

Still, I think the police officer is ultimately responsible. He is the one with the power in that situation. He could have showed more patience. Instead, it was obvious, the cop lost patience with the driver because he argued with him. I'm sorry but that's no excuse to ask the guy to step out of a car to arrest him. He should have done his job by explaining the consequences. The cop didn't want to do that and instead he just wanted to place him under arrest and get it over with.

But he didn't. He got out the car and was pointing at a sign. The cop asked him to put his hands behind his back. Before the guy even had a chance to react, the cop immediatley the cop pulled the taser which freaked the guy out. The guy never had time to comply. The cop freaked out and pulled the taser without cause. The guy was just confused as to what was going on.

 

[theogt]

I saw the video. He did nothing wrong...With your way of thinking if he waited it could be his life. Moral of this story is don't act a fool and you wont get tazed. The tazer was not pulled to quickly. He pulled it....that should have been the dudes first clue he was serious about him putting his hands behind his back....had he complied at that point no tazer used

The guy didn't act a fool. He was never given the chance to comply. You apparently haven't even watched video. Or just watched it and before watching it decided to you were going to defend the cop, regardless of what happened.

And a cops life is always in danger. Should he walk around with the taser pulled at all times because there's a possible threat of danger? No, of course not.

 

[heavyg]

But he didn't. He got out the car and was pointing at a sign. The cop asked him to put his hands behind his back. Before the guy even had a chance to react, the cop immediatley the cop pulled the taser which freaked the guy out. The guy never had time to comply. The cop freaked out and pulled the taser without cause. The guy was just confused as to what was going on.

Again have you ever been out in the middle of nowhere without back up? He was trained to do what he did.

 

[theogt]

Again have you ever been out in the middle of nowhere without back up? He was trained to do what he did.

It's funny that you know this yet the police department refused to confirm that he acted properly or that he acted according to standard operating procedure.

According to that department's policy, use of a taser is only appropriate where all other methods of controlling an individual are unreasonable.

Obviously that wasn't the case here.