Costa gets extension, per Eatman...***2yr 2.7mil Post #61***

[Verdict]

That is part of my point. We are more inclined to consider this a spot on the roster we go cheap at. We are not going to double dip and take a center early in this draft.

While I think you are making too much of the resigning of Costa, I think you will turn out to probably be right for the wrong reason. Personally I think Cooper will be in play in the first, and maybe Schwenke in the 3rd or 4th if they last that long. But we may not be able to get those players, or there might be a player fall to us that we just can"t pass up on.

Just because we may not address the position in this draft doesn't mean that they didnt want to. Personally I would rather have Costa than some UDFA that will be a downgrade from Costa.

Count me as one of the guys who would draft a right tackle with our first round pick and try to possibly get Warford in the second.

 

[Verdict]

Are you willing to bet the mortgage he does?

Matt Johnson is the kind of player that you see cut each and every camp from teams that truly go off of production. He was chewing up a roster spot deep into the season. Those practices must have been pretty impressive is all I can say.

They left Costa laying on the roster the entire remainder of the year, banking on him like he was some sort of savior. That does not make me think he is being viewed as insurance.

I will give the credit where it is due, but I will just use your examples as a case in point on how finances and investments determine how we view and judge talent.

Austin was nowhere close to seeing the field until Jerry Jones' prized bell cow, Roy Williams got hurt. Romo also was a cheap reserve who quite honestly could have been cut as well had Drew Henson not been as awful as he was.

You are mixing issues. Finding Romo and Austin and their refusal to allow them to play are separate issues. I agree that we should be less hesitant to play younger guys than we are. I am not saying resigning Costa was a great move either. I just think it allows us to keep our options open which is prudent. That is all I am saying.

 

[gimmesix]

That is part of my point. We are more inclined to consider this a spot on the roster we go cheap at. We are not going to double dip and take a center early in this draft.

I'm sure Dallas would love to go cheap at this position. The length of Costa's contract, though, says that Dallas isn't sure enough about him to lock him up long term while they can get him on the cheap.

I would not be surprised to see him return as the starter because the Cowboys (Jones, Garrett, maybe even Callahan) think more of him than I do, but I also believe Dallas has set things up so it isn't prohibited from taking a center early in the draft.

That's the way you want it because you don't know how the draft is going to fall.

I can't believe some aren't satisfied with this. You'd think Dallas signed him to a five-year, $40 million deal with a $20 million bonus. Is it simply that you guys won't be satisfied unless Dallas cuts the players you deem unworthy of even the smallest deal, or in this case actually a cost-cutting deal?

 

[Verdict]

Bill Parcells found Romo and Austin in UDFA. Let's be real here. The twins responsible for the personnel moves of 1994-2002 didn't suddenly reverse course.

I have a couple of thoughts for you. First, I know you are a bit of a lightening rod on this forum and many posters have labeled you as someone who is usually very negative. While I have observed that you tend to be more negative than most posters, that does not make you wrong. I actually agree with a lot of your thoughts and points, but I think the way you address it tends to invite the piling on you get. Still, I have more respect for you as a poster on this forum than most board members do and I actually look forward to reading your posts.

This type of post is one of the examples of posts which invites posters to devalue what you have to say because if you think about it, even you know it is not accurate. Iirc Sean Payton was the driving force behind bringing Romo here because he had folowed him because of the college he attended. Iirc Ireland was also the head honcho in the scouting department, not Parcells. Parcels did not make all of the drafting decisions because it is widely accepted that Jerry trumped Parcells and took Ware over Spears. How bad would our drafts look if we lost out on Ware and Spears was our crown jewel of that draft?

 

[Fletch]

I can't believe some aren't satisfied with this. You'd think Dallas signed him to a five-year, $40 million deal with a $20 million bonus. Is it simply that you guys won't be satisfied unless Dallas cuts the players you deem unworthy of even the smallest deal, or in this case actually a cost-cutting deal?

Spot on gimmesix! But you can't convince guys like RS. But nonetheless, you are right.

 

[erod]

I'm sure it is cheap but it doesn't matter to me. He should be off the roster. He provides absolutely nothing of value and has no upside.

According to Laufenberg, the coaches love Costa and see him developing into a top flight center.

Strange.

 

[Shiloht88]

I guess no matter how often people say it isn't about the money, but about resigning a jag at one of our weakest positions, will never sink in to the alls well in Jerry's world crowd.

The issue is this signing, restructuring the other losers on the line and the moronic comments our "GM" had made thus far in the offseason, has lead to the perception that Jerry is still going to ignore the line.

 

[TheSport78]

Lol, chronic. This is your idea of "keepin it real"?

I was right there when Costa tweaked his back on the first series during Week 1. He was never the same after that.

It concerns me with Costa because he's limited athletically as it is, so any lingering issue is not good. Oh yeah, did I mention he's had knee and ankle issues back-to-back seasons now?

 

[Risen Star]

I have a couple of thoughts for you. First, I know you are a bit of a lightening rod on this forum and many posters have labeled you as someone who is usually very negative. While I have observed that you tend to be more negative than most posters, that does not make you wrong. I actually agree with a lot of your thoughts and points, but I think the way you address it tends to invite the piling on you get. Still, I have more respect for you as a poster on this forum than most board members do and I actually look forward to reading your posts.

This type of post is one of the examples of posts which invites posters to devalue what you have to say because if you think about it, even you know it is not accurate. Iirc Sean Payton was the driving force behind bringing Romo here because he had folowed him because of the college he attended. Iirc Ireland was also the head honcho in the scouting department, not Parcells. Parcels did not make all of the drafting decisions because it is widely accepted that Jerry trumped Parcells and took Ware over Spears. How bad would our drafts look if we lost out on Ware and Spears was our crown jewel of that draft?

Bill Parcells found Romo and Austin. Without Bill, they aren't here. Jerry and Stephen tried for nearly a decade before him and failed. Then Bill arrived and we immediately got better. That wasn't an accident. There's a reason he's in the Hall of Fame.

 

[Risen Star]

According to Laufenberg, the coaches love Costa and see him developing into a top flight center.

Strange.

And that's my point. His presence effects our personnel decisions whereas a guy like Cook doesn't.

Costa will be another in a long line of players they thought could play but can't. I can buy maybe Church develops into something even despite the injury. I'll even have some hope in Parnell. I can't rip Matt Johnson yet. Haven't seen him and one year isn't long enough to label him injury prone. But Phil Costa is where I draw the line.

 

[Verdict]

Bill Parcells found Romo and Austin. Without Bill, they aren't here. Jerry and Stephen tried for nearly a decade before him and failed. Then Bill arrived and we immediately got better. That wasn't an accident. There's a reason he's in the Hall of Fame.

Come on RS, Parcells wasn't out scouting players. Parcells did help improve the Cowboys, but he was also stubborn as hell and the game had partially passed him by. You taking untenable positions like this really detract from what you bring to this board.

 

[Verdict]

And that's my point. His presence effects our personnel decisions whereas a guy like Cook doesn't.

Costa will be another in a long line of players they thought could play but can't. I can buy maybe Church develops into something even despite the injury. I'll even have some hope in Parnell. I can't rip Matt Johnson yet. Haven't seen him and one year isn't long enough to label him injury prone. But Phil Costa is where I draw the line.

I would agree that us resigning Costa makes it more likely that he is on the final 53 man roster at the start of the season. Anyone who doesn't see that is probably being a bit naive. However it doesn't make it a certainty. He could be cut as his signing doesn't make it impossible to cut him but it does make it less likely.

All of the guys that were extended/restructured will likely be on the 53 man roster or we would not have extended/restructured them.

 

[unionjack8]

Here's some perspective on the whole Costa vs Baltimore/Ngata injury debate:

Ngata injured his thigh in the second quarter, left the game, and came back later in the game, at what it sounded like was less than 100%.

The Cowboys did their best running in the first quarter, before Ngata's injury.

(From the game log on espn.com)
1st quarter: 94 yards, 10.4 yds/run
2nd-4th quarter 119 yards, 4.25 yds/run

Now I don't have the game tape and don't know if Costa looked better in the final three quarters against the backup/post-injury Ngata, vs the first quarter against Ngata. But the running game was most efficient before Ngata's injury.

and here's some more perspective, Haolti Ngata plays DE in their 3-4 Base not NT so more often than not the two didnt square off. Now, maybe on passing downs Ngata played DT and they may have crossed paths but i doubt they left Costa one on one with the one of the best on the game

 

[arglebargle]

Bill Parcells found Romo and Austin. Without Bill, they aren't here. Jerry and Stephen tried for nearly a decade before him and failed. Then Bill arrived and we immediately got better. That wasn't an accident. There's a reason he's in the Hall of Fame.

That's just your agenda talking. There's no evidence that Parcells had any particular interest in Romo whatsoever prior to the draft. Only after he was in camp. Parcells does deserve full credit for keeping him though. IIRC they even went long on QBs one of those years, to keep Romo on the roster. If Parcells didn't think a lot of Romo, he'd've been gone.

For all your bellyaching about drafting and lineman, Parcells was as bad or worse during his tenure here as Jerry. Parcells had no stomach for the long haul in his later career, three years was about as much as you could count on him before he would jump ship.

 

[Frosty]

And that's my point. His presence effects our personnel decisions whereas a guy like Cook doesn't.

Costa will be another in a long line of players they thought could play but can't. I can buy maybe Church develops into something even despite the injury. I'll even have some hope in Parnell. I can't rip Matt Johnson yet. Haven't seen him and one year isn't long enough to label him injury prone. But Phil Costa is where I draw the line.

Im sitting on my couch scracthing my A** thinking what the heck are the Cowboys thinking.....Its a Freaking SCARY THOUGHT...Garrett and Johns are playing with fire with this OL.... Freaking ridiculous IMO.

Does Jerry and this Coaching staff believe the status quo for the Oline is sufficient...they have extended or restructured almost all the 2012 OLinemen. The worst OL in the NFL.....The only exception is FREE...who needs to be GONE.........Does this means they think the RT is the only upgrade they need on the OL.....starting to get the feeling they will not draft OL in the 1st 3 rounds of the draft....::bang2:

This is a HERO or ZERO gamble for the Garrett and his Cowboys...It looks like the OL is not a issue at Valley Ranch.....


AL DAVIS is rubbing off on Jason Garrett

 

[cannonball44]

WAIT!!!! Am i too late to be apart of the unnecessary and overblown reaction group??

 

[Nightman]

That's just your agenda talking. There's no evidence that Parcells had any particular interest in Romo whatsoever prior to the draft. Only after he was in camp. Parcells does deserve full credit for keeping him though. IIRC they even went long on QBs one of those years, to keep Romo on the roster. If Parcells didn't think a lot of Romo, he'd've been gone.

For all your bellyaching about drafting and lineman, Parcells was as bad or worse during his tenure here as Jerry. Parcells had no stomach for the long haul in his later career, three years was about as much as you could count on him before he would jump ship.

I thought it was Sean Payton that brought in Romo because he broke all of Payton's records at E Illinois.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Bill Parcells found Romo and Austin. Without Bill, they aren't here. Jerry and Stephen tried for nearly a decade before him and failed. Then Bill arrived and we immediately got better. That wasn't an accident. There's a reason he's in the Hall of Fame.

It's all Parcells and not the Jones. It's all about the lines and not about anyone else.

You have a very narrow-minded view.

 

[Oh_Canada]

According to Laufenberg, the coaches love Costa and see him developing into a top flight center.

Strange.

Come on, you mean it's possible for a twenty four year-old center to have improved??

I think Cowboys fans have become sooooo cynical that they can no longer see the forrest for the trees. Costa by all accounts was a player on the rise last year, his injury is the only question I have otherwise I would be very comfortable with him starting. Rather see an upgrade at guard or RT.

 

[Beast_from_East]

According to Laufenberg, the coaches love Costa and see him developing into a top flight center.

Strange.

Well, compared to the rest of the crap on the oline, Costa actually looked pretty good.


Its kinda like the so-so looking girl who takes her fat friends to the bar so she looks hot in comparison.