Could Ronald Jones be primary backup RB?

[KJJ]

Yep, ....there's a reason after just a handful of years in the league, he is on his third team already. Very limited amount of action last year with KC and not brought back. If they hope on having him as primary backup to Pollard or carry his load if not available then we will be in deep doodoo.....

The Cowboys miscalculated at RB before in 2015 and it cost them. I don’t like what I’m seeing at RB right now. If Pollard doesn’t return the form or takes half the season or more to return to form, we could be in some deep doodoo. I would be looking at bringing back Zeke. Some of his detractors here seem to forget how good of a blocker he is. We’re going to need that and someone who can pick up a tough yard or two in critical situations.

 

[blueblood70]

The Cowboys miscalculated at RB before in 2015 and it cost them. I don’t like what I’m seeing at RB right now. If Pollard doesn’t return the form or takes half the season or more to return to form, we could be in some deep doodoo. I would be looking at bringing back Zeke. Some of his detractors here seem to forget how good of a blocker he is. We’re going to need that and someone who can pick up a tough yard or two in critical situations.

what you se? what have you seen? can they pay PS game , come live action maybe let the full TC move forward and develop and then get better picture of what you are seeing besides names you don't like.. jeez you all are truly overacting at position I'm betting going onto week 2 if the coaches aren't comfortable with that they are seeing, there are vet rbs available to be had at any time and with good line and good scheming. Rbs can be interchangeable.

please don't underrate Vaugn, malik, and hunter before they get a shot. id be more worried about the line, they weren't physical down the stretch both run and pass they were the reason for the drop off late and in the SF game.

got to get the trenches fixed and the run game will fall into place. 3 months before real game and the i don't like waht i see posts, seriously what exactly have you seen?

 

[CowboyFrog]

I want to make sure I have everything straight: things we need at RB

1.) Bell Cow Emmitt Smith type RB1
2.) Short yardage specialist, because you know only big slow guys can gain 1 yard when needed (any extra yards and we cut his arss)
3.) another back who can block only on passing downs (this wont key the defense at all, either will the big slow guy who gets 1 yard)
4.) change of pace back because this will FOR SURE fool the defense as they wont understand he is diferent than the big guy who gains a yard...
5.) recieving back, becuase why not...

so we are hell bent on spending 20 mill on the RB position devil be damned i guess.

 

[OmerV]

This maybe knee jerk reaction this soon before the OTAs and training camp summer, but not only could i see new vet RB Ronald Jones as the Cowboys primary No.2 backup RB .. but I could also see him as our specialty short yd/goal line back.

Hs may not be as flashy splashy and electrifying speedy as Pollard and Deuce, but he maybe more workman like and present a stronger, more physical presence among the current RBs

Despite all the talk of we need a FB (ala Hunter Luepke) and normally when they give a player a guarantee to sign on as undrafted- they usually stick on
the practice squad...or Cowboys possibly re-signing Zeke..... or exploring a regard back that offers a power game

I think this is possible, but it's really hard to speak to this with any confidence at this point.

The Ronald Jones that gained 978 yards and had a 5.1 ypc average a couple of years ago could clearly factor heavily into the mix, but that's a few years in the past, and he was kind of the odd man out in KC last year. Only time will tell what if he can be that guy or something close to it.

That said, he's not really a power back - still kind of smallish in size. But he is one of those guys that runs much harder and is more physical that his size suggests.

 

[blueblood70]

I want to make sure I have everything straight: things we need at RB

1.) Bell Cow Emmitt Smith type RB1
2.) Short yardage specialist, because you know only big slow guys can gain 1 yard when needed (any extra yards and we cut his arss)
3.) another back who can block only on passing downs (this wont key the defense at all, either will the big slow guy who gets 1 yard)
4.) change of pace back because this will FOR SURE fool the defense as they wont understand he is diferent than the big guy who gains a yard...
5.) recieving back, becuase why not...

so we are hell bent on spending 20 mill on the RB position devil be damned i guess.

TY noted sarcasm and 100% agree..polace wants it all

53 PB payers coming up..no understanding of cap space, limit on roster spots//role payers are very important and needed and cant all be top players. 75% of the roaster is made up of these role players. lets let the roster develop before saying we are doomed..

 

[CowboyFrog]

TY noted sarcasm and 100% agree..polace wants it all

53 PB payers coming up..no understanding of cap space, limit on roster spots//role payers are very important and needed and cant all be top players. 75% of the roaster is made up of these role players. lets let the roster develop before saying we are doomed..

exactly TC has a purpose!

 

[quickccc]

no you guys are overthinking this, Jones is that guy in way you forget to mention he was that guy behind Fournette and in KC whomever was in front of him.. plus add in Vaughn, hunter, malik or Dowdle who whichever is cut can be brought back..

OR easy enough there is large list of vet RBs on the street now and more later.. ironic you mention cooks hes ben on the trade/cut list for sometime. MN doesn't seem worried about running shorty of a RB room. Raven you forget their best RB in Lamar oh and BTW also ironic that after CM left to go to SF the run game got better in Carolina they nearly overtook TB with a great ground game which was RBBC..

again overthinking. KC didn't have much of room name or depth wise going into the season at RB and they did quite well , we will be fine.

BTW the bets way to have confidence in the run game is 1. the correct Plays called at the right time by a better play caller 2. the offensive line and the lines OLC schemes the run blocking better

that will be key to good run game not finding an elite back to overcome the deficiency's up front, again need proof see i posted even TP had sharp decline last year over the last 6 games not just zeke..why umm see above..

TP was far from effective or impressive the last 6 games he played 3.8 YPC, 51YPG no TDs, and no explosive plays. id say lets get the run game fixed up front. that was the issue both passing and running last year against he better Ds. was pretty clear but fans blamed the rbs and qbs the skill players forgets it starts and ends up front and we did NOT finish strong in the OL or play calling.

- The RBs could possibly be cut that you are mentioning, ..can also be claimed and picked up off waivers should another NFL team choose to do so.
..also NFL teams can also “pouch” players off practice squad if they place those players on their active roster.
The only way you can avoid that (pouching) is to elevate that PS guy to your own active roster. (ala Ron Leary and Blake Jarwin)

- There may some more vet RBs on the street, but if injuries begin to plague other NFL teams this summer, that quality of litter of cats are gonna get picked over,
and the quality leftovers may not be as encouraging available later on.

- With Vikes Dalvin Cooks – despite rumors hasn’t been traded or cut at this time,, until he is ..he’s still their starting RB. Injuries and non-availability has always been the big worry with him,
and it’s a pricy non-available at that. Point being - do Vikes have backups capable of still giving them sumthin’ to keep operating at RB. (ala Mattison)

- Even running QBs like Lamar (ala Hurts, Fields, etc) need featured RBs – frankly these running QBs are not the whole entire run game. Even they need assistance.

- BTW, would you rather have McCaffrey or Foreman ? Yet once again … when you have “all-purpose type RBs like McCaffrey, you take in his touches what he does both
And to add to it, ..my point was having quality backup reserves like a Foreman to be able to go – not it being Carolina vs Niners.

 

[eromeopolk]

The 5-5 change of pace back had more carries in College than any RB we have on the roster probably combined... but i get the concern as he is short but not small at all.. they brought in the top rated FB prospect in college and a SB winning "Starting RB" plus TP..this forums wrings its hands over the wierdest thing sometimes.. last year there was good concern at WR because you know Noah Brown...

You are right but He is short, small, and slower compared to Sproles. I will have to see it in the NFL before I believe he is nothing more than a change of pace RB/Returner. Playoff Lenny was the starter in the Super Bowl and the following year (if in shape, I would rather Playoff Lenny). I'm not ringing my hands. Seen this two many times were Jerry Dumbo GM Jones was wrong as a GM about the roster and coaches.

Since this is the Blue M&M last year, I hope they let him run the show as for as roster and on the field. I will know if they keep 2 FBs a staple for M&M offense

 

[Jfconrow]

I’m very confused by the RBs. Unless I’m missing something Pollard broke his leg, that’s got to impact his ability. There’s a decent chance Jones and Deuce will have to be big contributors. So I’m guessing they like Malik Davis or will try to find some udfa. The competition will be between Davis and Jones for the #2 or #1 if Pollard gets hurt. Deuce has a good shot too at beating them all out.

 

[Toro9]

Decent back. Hopefully the young'ns beat him out. Coaches/FO might have him here just to say, "You're gonna have to be better than me".

 

[Jake]

I have doubts that Jones even makes the opening day roster. His contract won't save him.

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

As it stands, it's looking like the plan. I don't like it. There's nothing I've seen on film that makes me believe he is any better than Zeke was last season, and he hasn't really played in a couple of years. If the options for RB2 are Jones and Deuce, I'm going to be sick to my stomach. I understand not investing big money into the position, but ignoring it entirely is incredibly stupid.

 

[buybuydandavis]

The Cowboys miscalculated at RB before in 2015 and it cost them. I don’t like what I’m seeing at RB right now. If Pollard doesn’t return the form or takes half the season or more to return to form, we could be in some deep doodoo. I would be looking at bringing back Zeke. Some of his detractors here seem to forget how good of a blocker he is. We’re going to need that and someone who can pick up a tough yard or two in critical situations.

Not Zeke, but Ronald Jones will likely get veteran competition as the primary *backup* to Pollard soon enough. All the other guys are complementary to Pollard, or just PS fodder.

It's a no brainer. Veteran RBs are chewed up and spit out. They can be had for a stick of gum. We'll bring another one in.

If they stood pat on Jones, I wouldn't like it either. But RBs are cheap. We'll bring another in.

 

[blueblood70]

- The RBs could possibly be cut that you are mentioning, ..can also be claimed and picked up off waivers should another NFL team choose to do so.
..also NFL teams can also “pouch” players off practice squad if they place those players on their active roster.
The only way you can avoid that (pouching) is to elevate that PS guy to your own active roster. (ala Ron Leary and Blake Jarwin)

- There may some more vet RBs on the street, but if injuries begin to plague other NFL teams this summer, that quality of litter of cats are gonna get picked over,
and the quality leftovers may not be as encouraging available later on.

- With Vikes Dalvin Cooks – despite rumors hasn’t been traded or cut at this time,, until he is ..he’s still their starting RB. Injuries and non-availability has always been the big worry with him,
and it’s a pricy non-available at that. Point being - do Vikes have backups capable of still giving them sumthin’ to keep operating at RB. (ala Mattison)

- Even running QBs like Lamar (ala Hurts, Fields, etc) need featured RBs – frankly these running QBs are not the whole entire run game. Even they need assistance.

- BTW, would you rather have McCaffrey or Foreman ? Yet once again … when you have “all-purpose type RBs like McCaffrey, you take in his touches what he does both
And to add to it, ..my point was having quality backup reserves like a Foreman to be able to go – not it being Carolina vs Niners.

I'm not reading all that,

i said lets wait and see how this group does before al the pre-judging. much like last off season the talk from the experts fanbase and media, used terms like, historically bad offseason and doom and gloom, didn't add enough to our losses, that talk ended fans overreactions with 12-5 season and 2nd round of the playoffs. again, KC had a 7th rounder and bunch of average backs and won a SB.

again, this is way too early of an overreaction before we see the new additions get some live work in.. give it a rest, ok internet keyboard GM. ive seen teams do RBBC with far less sand many are underestimating what Vaughn, hunter, malik/Dowdle and Jones can provide behind pollard.. pollard will get 15-18 carries so that group will be asked to get it 15-18 times between them and used out of the backfield..i see that working. IF not real easy to grab a vet rb after game 1 and they can hit the ground running,. pun intended.

BTW once CMC was gone it was foremen and bunch of spares that actually ignited the Carolina run offense , its was BETTER..RBBC works..I believe we have that mix.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Cowboys need a rb upgrade stat. Pollard isn't built to get 20+ rushes a game and last a season. My guess is that we will sign someone in August after the final roster cuts.

 

[quickccc]

I'm not reading all that,

i said lets wait and see how this group does before al the pre-judging. much like last off season the talk from the experts fanbase and media, used terms like, historically bad offseason and doom and gloom, didn't add enough to our losses, that talk ended fans overreactions with 12-5 season and 2nd round of the playoffs. again, KC had a 7th rounder and bunch of average backs and won a SB.

again, this is way too early of an overreaction before we see the new additions get some live work in.. give it a rest, ok internet keyboard GM. ive seen teams do RBBC with far less sand many are underestimating what Vaughn, hunter, malik/Dowdle and Jones can provide behind pollard.. pollard will get 15-18 carries so that group will be asked to get it 15-18 times between them and used out of the backfield..i see that working. IF not real easy to grab a vet rb after game 1 and they can hit the ground running,. pun intended.

BTW once CMC was gone it was foremen and bunch of spares that actually ignited the Carolina run offense , its was BETTER..RBBC works..I believe we have that mix.

That's up to you, This is not a written SAT test, I,just a returned response. yes it's a wait and see, but what's the harm in sensible
Cowboys football discussion on a discussion board.
I could respond and go into Chiefs, Mahomes and SB analysis, but I won't continue another NFL team analysis, and league trends, but I'll just give it an instant.
how I see the RB depth chart and unit playing out here with the Cowboys, and leaving it there.