Could Sam Hurd emerge?

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CowboyMcCoy;3050695 said:
I'm still shocked and awed by the emergence of Miles Austin. I'm just wondering, could it be possible that we have two sleepers on this team with just as much talent as one another? Hurd looked pretty comfortable in his limited time out there. Any chance he comes to, or near, the level of play Austin has reached?

I think Hurd is just another player here who can contribute. Yesterday Romo hit 10 different players in the passing game. If guys are out making plays it is going to be hard for teams to stop Dallas. I was really happy for Hurd he got an opportunity in the game and made something happen.
 

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the kid 05;3050756 said:
I've always seen Hurd as a possesion wideout for some reason, doesn't have the break neck speed but has decent hands from what i've seen in limited exposure

He isn't slow either though.

He is very quick when he runs his routes and can get by people.

IMO he just needs an opportunity and until Roy and Romo get on the same page i'd let Hurd cut into Roys snaps.
 

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Hurd: Slower possession receiver type

In essence, he could be out there doing what RW11 is doing right now (for a lot less). It sure would be nice to have that 1st & 3rd back... Hello hindsight. It's very nice meeting you.
 

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SuspectCorner;3050767 said:
I like Hurd and believe he is substantially more comfortable in the Dallas offense than Roy Williams at this stage. Romo-to-Williams remains one of the most awkward (dis)connections I've seen this season. It's almost like a very bad blind date.

I have no problem with WR sets that include Sam as an option. Trot him out there and see what he has.

Rarely do we agree but I kind of cringe anytime Romo throws to Williams. It just does not make any sense. Williams is a better player than he has shown to this point. He has had very good seasons with garbage QB's tossing him the ball. I hope they work it out soon.

PS If JJ ever attempts to trade a 1st round pick for a WR Stephen Jones needs to kick him down the stairs.
 

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I have the feeling Hurd will be the one that gets away and ends up having a pretty good career with another team. He has always done well in camp and preseason when he gets a lot of playing time but it just never really translates to the real games.
 

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Nav22;3050824 said:
We have pretty solid depth at the WR position and contrary to popular belief, I don't think we'll need to spend a high draft pick on a WR in 2010. Especially now that Austin has emerged like he has.
Austin has really been the kickstart we needed with the offense. I am still amazed at how smooth and confident he is playing right now. I keep waiting for him to get shutdown and it isn't happening. Tony Romo was the last player we had that came out of nowhere like that.

Now if Williams would start producing, it would eliminate any need for a WR in April. We have more issues than just receiver, but if it rounds itself into shape, it should be a non-issue.
 

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speedkilz88;3051034 said:
I have the feeling Hurd will be the one that gets away and ends up having a pretty good career with another team. He has always done well in camp and preseason when he gets a lot of playing time but it just never really translates to the real games.

I agree.

Probably the Dolphins too.

You guys who call him slow need to really stop and re-define your defintion of slow.
 

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CATCH17;3051056 said:
I agree.

Probably the Dolphins too.

You guys who call him slow need to really stop and re-define your defintion of slow.

Evidently if you are not running 4.3 or under you are slow. :laugh2:
 

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OK, I'll say it: the knee jerk reaction in me made me wonder if the RW trade was even necessary. I'll also admit that I'm a bit biased in the conversation. I was never a fan of the RW trade (though I hoped, for the Cowboys sake, that I was wrong).

With time to reflect, I don't think Hurd's a #2 (YET). But, I have to admit, when he made that catch and run yesterday my first thought was "Why isn't Roy Williams doing that?"

In all honesty, to this point, I think Hurd could have atleast matched RW's production (at this point in the season).

It's painfully obvious that Romo and Williams don't see the field the same way. Romo has very little trust in RW, right now. A blind man could see that. I'm beginning to wonder if he will ever trust him. Williams will get the token catch or two (maybe even 4 or 5), but I'm not sure that he'll ever be the guy that Tony trusts in the clutch. I honestly think he's trusts Hurd and Ogletree more than he trusts Williams at this juncture. That just what I THINK. It doesn't mean I'm proclaiming it as fact.

I know one thing: Jerry Jones and the RW teabag club are losing credibility by the week on the whole RW trade.
 

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skinsscalper;3051071 said:
I know one thing: Jerry Jones and the RW teabag club are losing credibility by the week on the whole RW trade.

You are correct sir.
 

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skinsscalper;3051071 said:
OK, I'll say it: the knee jerk reaction in me made me wonder if the RW trade was even necessary. I'll also admit that I'm a bit biased in the conversation. I was never a fan of the RW trade (though I hoped, for the Cowboys sake, that I was wrong).

With time to reflect, I don't think Hurd's a #2 (YET). But, I have to admit, when he made that catch and run yesterday my first thought was "Why isn't Roy Williams doing that?"

In all honesty, to this point, I think Hurd could have atleast matched RW's production (at this point in the season).

It's painfully obvious that Romo and Williams don't see the field the same way. Romo has very little trust in RW, right now. A blind man could see that. I'm beginning to wonder if he will ever trust him. Williams will get the token catch or two (maybe even 4 or 5), but I'm not sure that he'll ever be the guy that Tony trusts in the clutch. I honestly think he's trusts Hurd and Ogletree more than he trusts Williams at this juncture. That just what I THINK. It doesn't mean I'm proclaiming it as fact.

I know one thing: Jerry Jones and the RW teabag club are losing credibility by the week on the whole RW trade.
In the Denver game, Romo didn't appear to trust Austin either. But once they had some success in KC things changed in a hurry.
 

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speedkilz88;3051076 said:
In the Denver game, Romo didn't appear to trust Austin either. But once they had some success in KC things changed in a hurry.

Can't argue that.
 

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skinsscalper;3051071 said:
OK, I'll say it: the knee jerk reaction in me made me wonder if the RW trade was even necessary. I'll also admit that I'm a bit biased in the conversation. I was never a fan of the RW trade (though I hoped, for the Cowboys sake, that I was wrong).

With time to reflect, I don't think Hurd's a #2 (YET). But, I have to admit, when he made that catch and run yesterday my first thought was "Why isn't Roy Williams doing that?"

In all honesty, to this point, I think Hurd could have atleast matched RW's production (at this point in the season).

It's painfully obvious that Romo and Williams don't see the field the same way. Romo has very little trust in RW, right now. A blind man could see that. I'm beginning to wonder if he will ever trust him. Williams will get the token catch or two (maybe even 4 or 5), but I'm not sure that he'll ever be the guy that Tony trusts in the clutch. I honestly think he's trusts Hurd and Ogletree more than he trusts Williams at this juncture. That just what I THINK. It doesn't mean I'm proclaiming it as fact.

I know one thing: Jerry Jones and the RW teabag club are losing credibility by the week on the whole RW trade.

Im a big Roy fan and the part in bold has even crossed my mind.

But the reason Jerry went after Roy is because he thought it was the final piece to a Superbowl puzzle.

I'll clap my hands for someone who gambles like that to try and get his team over the top instead of sitting on their hands and doing nothing.

Looking back on it in hindsight though I don't think we really need Roy Williams.

That being said he is still a mismatch and we haven't really used him to his strengths yet.

At some point Roy will pay dividends for this team. Especially with Miles doing what he is doing.

And as much as I think Crayton can be a solid #2 he makes us even better as a #3. The closer to Romo he is the better.
 

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Hurd has had big plays before...the NYG game from week 1 two years ago stands out to me. But he's been injured, and he's been invisible. I think he's a valuable guy to have, but I don't think he's going to amount to much more than he is now.

The reason Miles Austin has emerged so strongly is that he has all kinds of physical tools with his size and speed. Hurd doesnt have that explosiveness.
 

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Future;3051086 said:
Hurd has had big plays before...the NYG game from week 1 two years ago stands out to me. But he's been injured, and he's been invisible.

You have, in essence, described RW11.

Hurd could be doing Roy's job right now and we could have the following back in our camp:

1st rounder
3rd rounder
$45 mil

Gotta love hindsight. :)

In all seriousness though, the fact that we blew the house on RW11 and have him starting right now instead of Hurd is all Hurd's fault.
 

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Bleu Star;3051090 said:
You have, in essence, described RW11.

Hurd could be doing Roy's job right now and we could have the following back in our camp:

1st rounder
3rd rounder
$45 mil

Gotta love hindsight. :)

In all seriousness though, the fact that we blew the house on RW11 and have him starting right now instead of Hurd is all Hurd's fault.
RW11 > Sam Hurd

when all is said and done what you gave up for him doesn't matter, because you can't change it. The better players need to be on the field. Roy's problem is chemistry with Tony...but he's still a more talented guy than Hurd.

If you want to look at it glass half full

For our whole WR corps, which is very good imo, we have only used a 1st, 3rd, and 7th basically. For five guys that isn't bad.
 

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skinsscalper;3051071 said:
OK, I'll say it: the knee jerk reaction in me made me wonder if the RW trade was even necessary. I'll also admit that I'm a bit biased in the conversation. I was never a fan of the RW trade (though I hoped, for the Cowboys sake, that I was wrong).

With time to reflect, I don't think Hurd's a #2 (YET). But, I have to admit, when he made that catch and run yesterday my first thought was "Why isn't Roy Williams doing that?"

In all honesty, to this point, I think Hurd could have atleast matched RW's production (at this point in the season).

It's painfully obvious that Romo and Williams don't see the field the same way. Romo has very little trust in RW, right now. A blind man could see that. I'm beginning to wonder if he will ever trust him. Williams will get the token catch or two (maybe even 4 or 5), but I'm not sure that he'll ever be the guy that Tony trusts in the clutch. I honestly think he's trusts Hurd and Ogletree more than he trusts Williams at this juncture. That just what I THINK. It doesn't mean I'm proclaiming it as fact.

I know one thing: Jerry Jones and the RW teabag club are losing credibility by the week on the whole RW trade.

I was one of the few that was not crazy about the Roy trade, and said so at the time, but many posters that I have a lot of respect for were sure it was just the thing we needed.

Oh well.
 

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Future;3051096 said:
RW11 > Sam Hurd

when all is said and done what you gave up for him doesn't matter, because you can't change it. The better players need to be on the field. Roy's problem is chemistry with Tony...but he's still a more talented guy than Hurd.

If you want to look at it glass half full

For our whole WR corps, which is very good imo, we have only used a 1st, 3rd, and 7th basically. For five guys that isn't bad.

I agree with everything you said but don't discount what chemistry can do.

Roy is the more talented player but until Romo and Roy start connecting than maybe Hurd should cut into Roys snaps a little.

Hurd earns more PT every training camp and every pre-season. And like we did with Austin in the past, we usually just let it fizzle out once the regular season gets here.
 

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Settle down...it was one catch

Put the anointing oil away!
 
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