Could The Pacman Cometh to Dallas?

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This would be Jerry's biggest risk yet. And that's saying a lot. At the same time, he's arguably the most talented with the biggest upside of any "risky" player Jerry's taken a chance on. This guy's talent is on par with Terrance Newman as a CB, maybe better in some areas - and he's only 24. If you can pair Newman and Jones at CB for the next few years, you have the best CB tandem in the league hands down. The question is whether PacMan's off the field behavior allows him to stay on the field and on a team for that long.
 

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would say his upside is better then Newmans...He actually catches the ball lol.



I'm all for this move!!!!!!!!..He wont be ridiculously overpaid and has more upside then anyone out right now.
 

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DaBoys4Life;1989025 said:
If the man wants to go to a strip club he should be allowed to i don't care im pretty sure he's been to strip clubs where there hasn't been shootings. I can't believe you would blame a man for getting stabbed at a bowling alley. Instead you should look at it as oh life is pretty messed up when you can't even go bowling. So basically you just want this guy to stay in the house since no matter what happens troubles seems to follow. (they could have been trying to rob him or he could have started a fight who knows but to blame a man for getting stabbed without knowing the full details of the situation is ignorant.)

Your right theres plenty of black athletes that don't have that issue the same way they are plenty of black athletes that do have that issue. What I am saying once he was labeled as a trouble maker or what ever he will get more attention and people will go after him more. Whether it be the media, cops, or random people try to get a court settlement.

Race has a factor in every aspect of American life to say it doesn't play a factor in this is ridiculous.

It's like the man has to be confined to a glass jar in order for you to be content with him. Has some of the things he done been stupid yes do the people he hang around bring him down yes. However he is still young and he will still have to learn this things. For you to try to sit there and act all high and mighty and holier than though is ridiculous. Everyone makes mistakes and no one is perfect.

5 arrest zero convictions he can't be that bad. Being questioned by the police makes him guilty of absolutley nothing

:bow: :bow: :bow:

The issue that I see is what are Goodell's limits in punishing a person trying to earn a living. The rules just allow for too much subjectivity as it relates to the commissioner's judgements.

If Pac-man has no convictions through the legal process, then what right does Goodell have the right to suspend him any further then when he was being investigated?

Can he suspend him for accusations, but when these accusations don't prove themselves in court, is he still allowed to punish players for accusations that were not even found valid in court? The accusations that he was punished for have no validity, yet he is still punishing them.

The logic is flawed...
 

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I missed this thread the first time around. It sickens me when the agent tries to compare taking a chance on Terrell Owens with taking one on Pacman Jones. There is no comparison, T.O. is not a criminal. Sheesh.

There is no denying Pacman's talent, though, and this does scream Jerry Jones. It could happen.
 

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I have absolutely no doubt about bringing in Pacman, I loved watching the guy in Tennessee before all of this happened and would love to have him playing for the Cowboys. He's a great player, is exactly what we need (great corner and great return man)....I wouldn't hesitate to bring him in.
 

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DaBoys4Life;1989025 said:
If the man wants to go to a strip club he should be allowed to i don't care im pretty sure he's been to strip clubs where there hasn't been shootings. I can't believe you would blame a man for getting stabbed at a bowling alley. Instead you should look at it as oh life is pretty messed up when you can't even go bowling. So basically you just want this guy to stay in the house since no matter what happens troubles seems to follow. (they could have been trying to rob him or he could have started a fight who knows but to blame a man for getting stabbed without knowing the full details of the situation is ignorant.)

Your right theres plenty of black athletes that don't have that issue the same way they are plenty of black athletes that do have that issue. What I am saying once he was labeled as a trouble maker or what ever he will get more attention and people will go after him more. Whether it be the media, cops, or random people try to get a court settlement.

Race has a factor in every aspect of American life to say it doesn't play a factor in this is ridiculous.

It's like the man has to be confined to a glass jar in order for you to be content with him. Has some of the things he done been stupid yes do the people he hang around bring him down yes. However he is still young and he will still have to learn this things. For you to try to sit there and act all high and mighty and holier than though is ridiculous. Everyone makes mistakes and no one is perfect.

5 arrest zero convictions he can't be that bad. Being questioned by the police makes him guilty of absolutley nothing


No he doesn't have to stay in his house all the time. But he needs to learn to stop putting himself in bad situations. Rather thats simply because he goes to incredibly piss poor strip clubs, that he's just asking for something to happen in, or it's a case of who he hangs out with, whatever it is it is ON HIM.

Plenty of people go to strip clubs, all the time (Famous and not famous) and they don't have these issues seem to happen every time they turn around. The fact that you want to make it all about "poor him" he's being mistreated cause he's black and he's gotten himself a bad lable is incredibly ignorant on your part. At some point people HAVE to take responsibility for putting themselves into bad positions. He continues to hang out with the same type of people, go to the same types of places, and has gotten himself in trouble more than once.

STOP doing it. It's that simple. If you're innocent, and know that you're just going to be picked on by people if you go to these places, then DON'T GO. It's that simple. There is nothing so great about going to strip joints that he just HAS to risk it. He's an idiot. He puts himself in bad situations, either by being totally stupid himself or by being stupid enough to hang out with people who are getting him in trouble.

He didn't say why he got stabbed but what the hell are you going to get stabbed over in bowling? Seriously? Again it's not about the fact that he got stabbed, that no doubt sucked, but it's the fact that in a setting where it should be near impossible to have something really violent happen (And I don't know maybe the bowling in other parts of the world attract far more shaddy people or the ones there really take their bowling more seriously than I've ever seen) and he still got into a violent situation.

There is something wrong with that. Something SERIOUSLY wrong with that.


Again he doesn't have to stay confined to his home and maybe it is who he hangs out with. But you know what? Again that is his choice. He continues to hang out with people who get him in trouble, and bring him down, and that makes it his fault as well. It's not impossible to say "You know what. I'm an adult, I'm an athlete, and I don't need to hang out with this crowd."

It's pretty simple. So even if he isn't the reason he's getting in trouble, and it's all whoever he hangs out with, he's still not smart enough to STOP hanging out with whose getting him in trouble. Again, thats is on him. Not the color of his skin and not anyone else.

And yes, everyone makes mistakes. Smart people, however, learn from their mistakes long before it costs them their jobs or gets them in this kind of trouble. I've made loads of mistakes in my life but I've somehow managed to not get myself questioned about shootings, stabbings, or stupid crap like that when I've been to strip joints or clubs or at the local bowling alley.

The kid is an idiot. The fact that you want to make him out to be a victim, based soley on his skin color, is a real problem with this world. No one wants to take responsibility for their own decisions, and actions, cause it's always easier to find guys like you who will agree that it isn't their fault it's always someone being mean to them, picking on them, or being racist against them.
 

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Pacman was not a great corner during the last season in which he played. He was a good corner with the potential to learn more and become very good to great. We are waiting to see if he put in the work needed to make it to that next level. Missing a whole season is not a good way of going about it. I would not expect Pacman to be able to step on the field and immediately start playing at a high level. It may take him the whole season to become re-acclimated to football in the NFL. Cornerback is already one of the most difficult position in the NFL. Missing a year of not just games, but practice as well would be a big setback in the growth of any young corner.
 

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The T.O. comparison is bad, but he's not as bad as Tank. Unlike Tank, he's never served prison time.
 

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yeah it would take time for pacman to adjust but he would still be a great fit in the defense. give him time in training camp and let him play basically the whole game in preseason and he will start to get his skills back.
 

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alancdc;1989149 said:
Is this still going around from a few weeks ago?

It got brought back up, yesturday, after a report came out that Jones did a radio interview and once again mentioned he'd love to play for the Dallas Cowboys. So it's been brought out of moth balls, and is combined now with another topic that says Jones is rumored to be intrested. This is one of those stories that likely won't go away for a while.
 

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We'd get an Asante Samuel-caliber player for a position that we desperately need to address pretty much for free. He would have so many contract stipulations that he'd be afraid to even cough on another player and people think this is a bad idea?

He's gonna clean his act up no matter where he goes. He knows that his career and life depends on it. I'd rather him do it in Dallas than somewhere else. He's a great player and we're the Dallas Cowboys for crying out loud. We've dealt with more druggies, ex-convicts and felons than an average probation officer see in an entire lifetime.

I'm on board.
 

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UVAwahoos;1989210 said:
We'd get an Asante Samuel-caliber player for a position that we desperately need to address pretty much for free. He would have so many contract stipulations that he'd be afraid to even cough on another player and people think this is a bad idea?

He's gonna clean his act up no matter where he goes. He knows that his career and life depends on it. I'd rather him do it in Dallas than somewhere else. He's a great player and we're the Dallas Cowboys for crying out loud. We've dealt with more druggies, ex-convicts and felons than an average probation officer see in an entire lifetime.

I'm on board.

Yes it's true we've dealt with some personalities, and trouble makers, in the past and quite a few of them have been very good for us. There is no denying that Pacman has talent but, to me, it's simply not worth it to take the risk on a guy who might not even be able to be good long enough to get himself on the field for more than 22 seconds.
 

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joseephuss;1989139 said:
Pacman was not a great corner during the last season in which he played. He was a good corner with the potential to learn more and become very good to great. We are waiting to see if he put in the work needed to make it to that next level.


I don't agree with this at all. If I recall correctly, he single-handedly beat Eli's Giants in Deion-esque fashion that last season he played. In addition to that, he was constantly on highlight reels for one great play or another. He may have some weaknesses, but if you get someone at that position who is capable of creating enough fear to make the QB flinch even for a second before throwing the ball (which Pacman can do), than you're in great shape with our pass rush.
 

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DaBoys4Life;1988659 said:
man theres three factors working against Pacman right now if you believe it or not is up to you.

1 He's black in America
2 He's has a lot of money
3 He's has a history of being in trouble.

Sounds like a money hungry female trying to get a cut of his money. I'm sorry but i'd rather believe pacman than random stripper A who's after money.

So i fail to see the various trouble he's been getting into since he's been suspended.


If he was a "thug" then why was he able to attend college news flash thugs don't go to college. Do you even know what a thug is ? It's laughable to even consider Pacman a thug. The people around him may be a different but that still isn't him. Is he a thug because he has dreads and wear's white T's. Like honestly it's so hard to get away from the people you grew up with and people try to make it sound easy. Lol maybe some of you guys need to realize what it is really like how quick to judge you guys are is ridic.

Great! Just great...

Is that why you are here? It's got to be because he's a black man?

:rolleyes:

GET OVER IT!!!


(some peoples kids)....

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joseephuss;1989139 said:
Pacman was not a great corner during the last season in which he played. He was a good corner with the potential to learn more and become very good to great. We are waiting to see if he put in the work needed to make it to that next level. Missing a whole season is not a good way of going about it. I would not expect Pacman to be able to step on the field and immediately start playing at a high level. It may take him the whole season to become re-acclimated to football in the NFL. Cornerback is already one of the most difficult position in the NFL. Missing a year of not just games, but practice as well would be a big setback in the growth of any young corner.


I agree 100%.... but if we aquire him he'd be a 3rd or 4th corner this upcoming season so it would be the perfect way for him to get back in the groove and knock the rust off. Plus, he would be our punt return man this season.
 

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DaBoys4Life;1989030 said:
they aren't any gangsta in college just because people sag their pants wave a bandana around a sell some drugs don't make them a thug

they might be some stabbings or shootings or fights or w/e still i don't think they thugs

its just people tryn to act tuff


You are freakng hilarous!

Yeah, stabbing and shootings make you a good citizen?

Got it...


:laugh2:

You are one of the kind of people that keep this crap alive...be proud of yourself!!


:rolleyes: :cool:
 
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