Could the Top 5 QBs Overcome This OL and WR Depth?

TheMarathonContinues

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Cooper, Lamb, Wilson, and Schultz.

Pretty much EVERYBODY in every corner considered that the best, or a top 3, corps in the NFL.

If you don't see that, you really are clueless.
Schultz isn’t even a receiver WTH? Are you ok? What idiot says the Cowboys had a better receiving group than the Bengals or Rams? Other than you and we already know what your issue is…..
 

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Not if you know football.

Sorry but being the only person on the planet who thinks that we have better receivers than Cinci doesn’t make you smart.

So you either have a very low football iq or you like the narrative that Dak has better weapons than a team like Cinci. It’s ludicrous but it also makes it easy to attack him if he isn’t successful. Pathetic really.
 

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Schultz isn’t even a receiver WTH? Are you ok? What idiot says the Cowboys had a better receiving group than the Bengals or Rams? Other than you and we already know what your issue is…..

Ya he is just trying to create a false narrative so he can continue to bash Dak obsessively. At some point the mods have to address the insane posters flooding the board with nonsense. I’ve been spending time at other boards where they actually discuss football instead of make up stuff out of thin air just to push their crazy obsessions.
 

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Brady’s last year in NE begs to differ, which is a primary reason he left. When he lost all his weapons he was 1 and done in the playoffs and wasn’t competitive.

Yep And it’s flat out insane to be sitting here saying that Brady did it. Well of course he did he’s the GOAT! And that 2001 season Brady averaged 201yds/game with 18tds/12ints in 14 games. Hardly what I call impressive like he carried the team on his shoulders turning 3rd stringers into pro bowlers. The reality is that didn’t happen.
 

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Again this question has way too many variables to connect dots unless you can have them play on the same team with the same coaches and scheme.....I know everyone thinks they know what is suppose to happen....but what about our coaching the last many years suggest we change anything to cover up bad OL play. I would like to see TB12 or A-Rod playing here last year so i could see the look on thier face when Doogie Howser OC calls the same damn play for the 5 th time knowing the LG and C are getting blown up. Can Dak overcome it? who knows not so far but again your conparing what other QB's have done with OC's and coaching staffs that you would trade ours for in a second.
 

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Yep And it’s flat out insane to be sitting here saying that Brady did it. Well of course he did he’s the GOAT! And that 2001 season Brady averaged 201yds/game with 18tds/12ints in 14 games. Hardly what I call impressive like he carried the team on his shoulders turning 3rd stringers into pro bowlers. The reality is that didn’t happen.

I thought the original claim went something like "No elite QB had EVER won a SB without having at least 1 or 2 elite or HOF type WRs and/or TEs...?

And Brady won 3 SBs with the likes of Deion Branch, David Givens, David Patten and Troy Brown and Daniel Graham at TE.

Soooooo...

How does this spin work?

You be you dude.
Keep teaching us all how much more right your opinion is than others.

There's a couple or so of you all knowing types here.

You're entertaining though.
 

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I thought the original claim went something like "No elite QB had EVER won a SB without having at least 1 or 2 elite WRs and/or TEs...

And Brady won 3 SBs with the likes of Deion Branch, David Givens, David Patten and Troy Brown and Daniel Graham at TE.

Soooooo...

How does this spin work?

You be you dude.
Keep teaching us all how much more right your opinion is than others.

There's a couple or so of you all knowing types here.

You're entertaining though.


I dont think "The original claim" is something i agree with..but if your rebutal is the GOAT QB paired with the GOAT coach its not really a spin....but acting as if the NE defenses those years were not up to task is kinda tongue in cheek..not on the Dilfer Tampa level but really good with Brady as QB.
 

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My question- Could any of the top 5 QBs overcome Jerry?

And now we are at the crux of the matter.

A top five front office would make all of this a non-issue.

No quarterback, coach or group of players assembled in any fashion can overcome Jerry.

He is unable to operate within the constraints of the salary cap and the small windows that players have under their rookie contracts to maximize the talent he has at the best price and get to a super bowl.

Sure we can hit on some first round picks but we will always be a kicker or a coach short or have no return game there will always be some piece of the puzzle missing with Jerry because he is just unable to cover all the bases.

Family vacations are the priority instead of picking the right players to get your team over the top and deep into the tournament in free agency
 

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And now we are at the crux of the matter.

A top five front office would make all of this a non-issue.

No quarterback, coach or group of players assembled in any fashion can overcome Jerry.

He is unable to operate within the constraints of the salary cap and the small windows that players have under their rookie contracts to maximize the talent he has at the best price and get to a super bowl.

Sure we can hit on some first round picks but we will always be a kicker or a coach short or have no return game there will always be some piece of the puzzle missing with Jerry because he is just unable to cover all the bases.

Family vacations are the priority instead of picking the right players to get your team over the top and deep into the tournament in free agency

Look no farther than bringing SAS in to the Star....its a show here its not about wins its about ratings and money. The fans there chanting Jerry should have been fleeced..
 

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I dont think "The original claim" is something i agree with..but if your rebutal is the GOAT QB paired with the GOAT coach its not really a spin....but acting as if the NE defenses those years were not up to task is kinda tongue in cheek..not on the Dilfer Tampa level but really good with Brady as QB.

No worries..
I just responded to the exact claim being made that Every SB winning QB had elite WRs or a TE.

I responded to that claim specifically.

While Hoodie's defenses were solid at usually the points allowed stat in general, I wouldn't put them on an 85 Bears level or even quite a few others for that matter.

I was just generally showing TB12 did more with less at WR/TE as to disprove the original claim.(post #30)
 
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Sorry but being the only person on the planet who thinks that we have better receivers than Cinci doesn’t make you smart.

So you either have a very low football iq or you like the narrative that Dak has better weapons than a team like Cinci. It’s ludicrous but it also makes it easy to attack him if he isn’t successful. Pathetic really.
Last year Dallas did. Virtually everyone agrees with that, but the difference for the receivers was who was throwing them the ball. That's just true, and Cooper basically said as much.

And Cincy had a catastrophic offensive line. Just gawd awful.

Dak is a tight ends' quarterback. Receivers get left out against good defenses. Again, just true. Doesn't trust himself to throw into tight coverage. Drives that bus.

The last time either Cooper or Lamb had a 100-yard game, Rush was the quarterback. That's telling.

A team can still win with that approach if it plays great defense and runs the ball well. Spending big on receivers is a waste though, especially with what they're paying Dak.

The Cowboys are watching Dak very closely this year, and they're building cap space in case he doesn't show a significant improvement in his SEVENTH season. They say the right things, but they are getting impatient. Their actions say so.

Can't help you if you don't see that. It's plain as day.
 

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Ya he is just trying to create a false narrative so he can continue to bash Dak obsessively. At some point the mods have to address the insane posters flooding the board with nonsense. I’ve been spending time at other boards where they actually discuss football instead of make up stuff out of thin air just to push their crazy obsessions.
Exactly. One minute he’ll argue Cowboys receiver sucks but when it’s in favor of saying Dak sucks now they are the best in the league…it’s a joke.
 
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