Counter Point to "Spagnola: Let’s Not Assume Drafting A QB At No. 4 Is The Elixir To 4-12"

LittleD

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"The Patriots way" requires a real HC and a healthy elite QB

We have neither

You make a salient point. Jerry is going to play the hand he has and like all risky ventures he may come up
with another dry hole. Fact is that he's been getting dry holes for 20 years now but, he is richer and has
a shiny new stadium to have concerts, college football, events at which brings him more riches. Not a bad gig
as long as Cowboy fans keep buying tickets and gear.
 

Alexander

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Spagnola is an annoying imbecile, but you cannot deny that he is an integral piece of the organizational propaganda machine.

If the Minister of Information is writing an article like this, you can rest assured the team is definitely leaning away from QB in the draft.
 

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This is the year to draft Zeke and get a first round bye.

As someone who thinks we should find the future QB now, I'm not one who thinks there is only one way, my way, to go
A trade down and add Zeke is a way to go but two things I do think. Zeke or any other player is not going to fix this team, they can be a part of the fix but the fix includes romo staying healthy, the entire draft and free agency. Second I like Zeke but the value of Zeke is the possibility of trading down,adding a pick and getting him
 

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Spagnola is an annoying imbecile, but you cannot deny that he is an integral piece of the organizational propaganda machine.

If the Minister of Information is writing an article like this, you can rest assured the team is definitely leaning away from QB in the draft.

Agreed. I feel like there's almost no chance they take a qb early. It's possible they're assuming wentz will be gone at 4 just like they thought manziel would be gone. If he falls to them unexpectedly that might change things or at least generate some discussion but it doesn't sound like he'll make it past cleveland anyway.
 

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I don't think anyone was thinking it was some antidote to a 4-12 season to begin with. Most are thinking long term.
 

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This is the year to draft Zeke and get a first round bye.

I would love to grab a QB first round, but with a RB like Elliott that can make plays on his own, that would go a long way in keeping Tony upright by keeping us in short yardage situations while moving the chains.
 

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Spagnola is an annoying imbecile, but you cannot deny that he is an integral piece of the organizational propaganda machine.

If the Minister of Information is writing an article like this, you can rest assured the team is definitely leaning away from QB in the draft.

Agreed. The regime appears to be getting the masses prepared while gauging the reaction. This is the NFL's annual version of an election cycle...Jerry is checking the polls after using the press to check the temperature of his constituents.
 

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I keep wondering what "window" this team is chasing under this qb? They havent advanced past the divisional round with him under center.

He's a good qb, but a lot of times I feel the FO is chasing something that isn't attainable, mainly because they are scared ******** of trying to find the next guy and incapable of doing so.
 

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They've tried it and failed miserably before. If anyone should know that, it's the Cowboys.

They had no plan other than Aikman and when he suddenly retired, they were sunk. And we got the fondly remembered Campo years. 5-11, 5-11, 5-11.

If they want to go back to those days, just pass on the opportunity to get a quarterback.

In the first year after Aikman, it might have been a good thing that we didn't have a first-round pick because maybe we would have traded up for Michael Vick. Our best bet would have been trading up in front of San Diego at 32 for Drew Brees instead of taking Carter.

Getting Carter set our QB search back for years. Of course, that might have been a good thing the next year because we could have spent our first-rounder on the likes of David Carr or Joey Harrington or Patrick Ramsey. (We probably would have been better off selecting fourth-rounder David Garrard.)

In 2003, we could have gotten Carson Palmer with a slight trade-up from No. 5, or chosen Byron Leftwich or Kyle Boller in the first round, not exactly guys who set the world on fire.

Maybe some of those players' careers would have turned out differently in Dallas, but the years after we lost Aikman were bereft of quality QB talent other than Palmer. Of course, not drafting a quarterback that year worked out well for us ultimately because we picked up Romo as an undrafted free agent in 2003.

The next year, there was finally a worthy first-round QB class in Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger.

This question is whether this class is like that one or more like the ones following Aikman where we might not have found a replacement even if we had taken a QB in the first round.
 

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Too many people are scapegoating and focusing on the backup QB play of last year and not seeing the big elephant in the room. That is the type of offense Garrett and Linehan are using. That old, outdated, archaic offense needs a major revamping. Romo has been covering up all the warts on that idiotic offensive game plan of Garrett. Even a healthy Romo can't do it anymore at age 36.

Any other head coach running a different offensive scheme/strategy would have been 8-8 min last year with the players the Cowboys had.

A healthy Romo barely beat a pathetic Giants team in the opener. Granted his surrounding cast gave him little help with drops and, if I remember, turnovers. Romo put up a whopping 6 points against a horrible Eagles team before getting injured. The defense won that game with a red-zone int and blocked punt. Romo threw two horrible picks (rust may have been a contributor) against a poor Miami team. Even a healthy Romo would not have saved the the day against the Panthers.

Make the OL the showcase next year and run-run-run the ball peppered with some quick, high percentage pass plays. Oh, a learn how to execute a screen pass more than once in a blue moon. Quit running an offense that needs miraculous QB play to succeed.
 

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I keep wondering what "window" this team is chasing under this qb? They havent advanced past the divisional round with him under center.

He's a good qb, but a lot of times I feel the FO is chasing something that isn't attainable, mainly because they are scared ****less of trying to find the next guy and incapable of doing so.

As much as I hate it, it's true. We were going 8-8 over and over. It's not like that was some huge window to begin with.
 

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Well, of course taking a QB at 4 for doesn't help 4-12.
And water is wet. Everyone in this forum knows what Spags seems to think is his epiphany ...good grief.

Taking a QB at 4 is the choice that possibly LEAST helps us in 2016....but that's not the point.
However.....
IF they love a QB at 4, then take him for the longer term.
 

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I keep wondering what "window" this team is chasing under this qb? They havent advanced past the divisional round with him under center.

Consecutive Qualifying Seasons
Top 10 Passers

(adjusted for era)
15 Manning (1999-2010, 2012-2014)
11 Brady (2001-07, 09-12)
8 Fouts (1978-85)
8 Young (1991-98)
8 Romo (2006-09, 2011-14)
7 Dawson (1962-68)
7 Rodgers (2008-14)
6 Griese (1971, 73-74, 76-78)
6 Baugh (1940-45)
6 Tarkenton (1972-77)
5 Unitas (1963-67)

Romo didn't have enough attempts to qualify in 2015, so his streak of top 10's is still active. In fact, it's the only one that's still active. The next closest active streak to Romo's is Wilson with 4 seasons.

There's definitely been a window for 8 seasons. The question is whether that window is still open.
 
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