Counter Point to "Spagnola: Let’s Not Assume Drafting A QB At No. 4 Is The Elixir To 4-12"

[rwalters31]

The primary reason I ignore those who cry WE HAVE TO GO QB AT 4!!!

If the grade is there, fine. Otherwise go a different direction.

OK, I will counter you with this, when Romo was asked to come in and throw passes to receivers as a walk on. what do you think Peyton saw in him that told him this is the guy I want for the Cowboys. If you look back I believe you will fine that the same write ups as you fine for Wentz. Wentz has the same mentality except he does not idolize Brett Favre. I believe Wentz can and will be the next Romo but better!

 

[NumOneQB]

Spags is such a tool. I quit reading his BS a long time ago.

Spagz writes what Jerruh tells him to write. The company line is win now with Romo.....

 

[DFWJC]

I would love to grab a QB first round, but with a RB like Elliott that can make plays on his own, that would go a long way in keeping Tony upright by keeping us in short yardage situations while moving the chains.

If it's between taking a QB they don't absolution glove at 4 vs taking Elliott (at say, 7th -12th) plus an extra 2nd rounder....Ill take door #2 please.

 

[DFWJC]

OK, I will counter you with this, when Romo was asked to come in and throw passes to receivers as a walk on. what do you think Peyton saw in him that told him this is the guy I want for the Cowboys. If you look back I believe you will fine that the same write ups as you fine for Wentz. Wentz has the same mentality except he does not idolize Brett Favre. I believe Wentz can and will be the next Romo but better!

Wentz probably idolizes Tony Romo instead
Jk

 

[Verdict]

Not questionable on Ourlads.
http://www.ourlads.com/top-32-college-senior-prospects/nfl-draft/2016/2827777/

Obviously that draft projection supports your statement, but I assume that you are not taking the position that because one service rates players a certain way that it conclusively determines that they are unequivocally accurate? Otherwise, why have scouts? Jerry could just go off of his OURLADS cheat sheet and save a ton of time, energy and money, and never miss on a prospect.

 

[Stash]

Top 5, Ramsey and Zeke I'll take all day, the rest are certainly questionable. IMhumbleO

I think that both of those guys could be considered "questionable" as well.

...and the QBs well, it's questionable whether they are 1st round talents at all. Even Goff gets Drafted late 1st at best, in most years. Just a sketchy situation taking these guys top 20, top 10 is scary and top 5 is a lot of people willing to fail on a QB, solely for the sake of drafting a QB.

For me, it's more of actually being in a position to take one this year while not being there again for the foreseeable future. And as for Goff, he's proven enough to me over these last three years, with his production and he's checked out during the entire draft process, with no doubts that anyone's had materializing.

I think the Cowboys would be lucky to get him at 4.

 

[big dog cowboy]

OK, I will counter you with this, when Romo was asked to come in and throw passes to receivers as a walk on. what do you think Peyton saw in him that told him this is the guy I want for the Cowboys.

Hell if I know.

 

[Alexander]

How about when the Draft dictates. Franchise quality at the QB position is the most desirable choice, certainly anyone with an unbiased agenda would agree.

This year of College showed us that the year to Draft a Franchise QB is not 2016, nothing since the end of the Collegiate season should have changed any sane view at the QB position.

Though the Hype Machine on this Forum continues at a high rate of disillusion.

Have you taken a look at the draft at the position for the next few years?

I don't know what you think is going to change, but things look about how it looks this season.

 

[Alexander]

Spagz writes what Jerruh tells him to write. The company line is win now with Romo.....

No question.

In fact, I expect a Spagnola article soon that espouses the virtues of players like Jalen Ramsey or Myles Jack.

Keep your eyes peeled.

 

[percyhoward]

OK, I will counter you with this, when Romo was asked to come in and throw passes to receivers as a walk on. what do you think Peyton saw in him that told him this is the guy I want for the Cowboys?

As a graduate of Eastern Illinois, Peyton knew about Romo while he was still in college. So did Shanahan, who was also an Eastern Illinois alumnus, and who also wanted him. In fact, Shanahan offered more than we did, but Romo saw more of an opportunity in Dallas.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Have you taken a look at the draft at the position for the next few years?

I don't know what you think is going to change, but things look about how it looks this season.

Things always change in College Football, people fall and people rise over a season. Noway of predicting all of next years QBs or any other position, much less two or three years in advance as some have been ranting.

 

[visionary]

i'm pretty sure when he's healthy he's elite - he just didn't luck into a potential MVP two years ago. If you really feel that way however you should just take next year off since we have no chance.

First of all, I did not say that but let's say I did

To prove Romo is elite, can you give a list of 5 QBs you would call "elite" who only won 2 playoff games in their entire career?

I'll wait for the non-response from you

 

[Alexander]

Things always change in College Football, people fall and people rise over a Season. Noway of predicting all of next years QBs or any other position, much less two or three years in advance as some have been ranting.

Yes, they always change. Before this season, this was supposed to be a decent QB year with players like Hackenberg and Cook as first round types, then adding on Cardele Jones, Kessler, Hogan etc.

Well, funny how that dialogue has changed.

Oh well.

When we need a QB, it will all work out.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Yes, they always change. Before this season, this was supposed to be a decent QB year with players like Hackenberg and Cook as first round types, then adding on Cardele Jones, Kessler, Hogan etc.

Well, funny how that dialogue has changed.

Oh well.

When we need a QB, it will all work out.

For the same reasons the future can't be predicted on how many will ascend to Franchise level next year whether that be inside the NFL or College. (Cousins) Or in two years .. or even three years from now.

Tony Romo could be getting ready to fill the starting position in three years, if his game is the same at 38, he's still a top 10 rated in two years...keep in mind, not stretching or going to pretend on 4 more years.

Two or three more Drafts is ample time to secure a QB.

 

[Alexander]

For the same reasons the future can't be predicted on how many will ascend to Franchise level next year. Or in two years .. or even three years from now Tony Romo could be getting ready to fill the starting position.

Admittedly, if his game is the same at 38, he's still a top 10 rated in two years but I'm not stretching or going to pretend on 4 more years.

Ah, so you have bought into the rhetoric that this was just a bad few years for Tony.

Since you have checked your brain at the door and yelled Jesus take the wheel, I do not see how you can be persuaded.

 

[Stash]

For the same reasons the future can't be predicted on how many will ascend to Franchise level next year whether that be inside the NFL or College. (Cousins) Or in two years .. or even three years from now.

Tony Romo could be getting ready to fill the starting position in three years, if his game is the same at 38, he's still a top 10 rated in two years...keep in mind, not stretching or going to pretend on 4 more years.

Two or three more Drafts is ample time to secure a QB.

This was a sad attempt. Even you can't believe the stuff you typed here.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Insults don't make a case in football unless you're O.J., though he was retired.

 

[Stash]

Insults don't make a case in football unless you're O.J., though he was retired.

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be insulting. I apologize. But c'mon! That was just poor.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be insulting. I apologize. But c'mon! That was just poor.

I'm just thinking we have at least next years Draft and 2018 to find a QB in deeper Drafts. This years options are not worth a top Draft choice.

Aaron Rogers was taken #24 for example, if you want to spend a 1st we can do that in a real QB Draft.

Realistically two more Drafts can/will produce a starting QB before Tony hangs up the cleats, not to mention that Dallas could hit on a mid-round talent this year as they choose a QB in the 2016 Draft as well. There will be some real NFL arms to develop into the third day, way after the top three are gone.

Three Drafts, three chances for a QB, but this year Franchise QBs are lacking at the top where we happen to be picking.

 

[Stash]

I'm just thinking we have at least next years Draft and 2018 to find a QB in deeper Drafts, Aaron Rogers was taken #24 for example, if you want to spend a 1st we can do that in a real QB Draft.

But one, you can't support your contention that any of those drafts will be deeper (early word says the opposite), and two, the Cowboys draft position will make their odds of getting one worse, not better.

Realistically two more Drafts can/will produce a starting QB before Tony hangs up the cleats, not to mention that Dallas could hit on a mid-round talent this year as they pick a QB in the 2016 Draft as well.

Three years, three chances for a QB but this year is SUCK for QBs in the 1st...cept for Goff, he's worth a 10-15th pick.

Despite the fact that, given the facts, it's not "realistic" at all.