Cowboys’ Jourdan Lewis faced previous domestic violence accusation

waldoputty said:
what is clearly unfair treatment is that the woman can hit the man and it is considered perfectly fine by the police and the law.
it does not matter if one is stronger than the other - it is intent to injure and hurt.

mixon could have handled it better but how old was he?

there is enough unknowns in hardy's case that it is hard to say one way or another.
frankly, he is irrelevant to us at this point.
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Men, you need to remember that you can call the police when a woman assaults you and SHE will be arrested, especially if there is evidence of assualt. A lot of men are too macho to call the law.
 
Boyzmamacita said:
Men, you need to remember that you can call the police when a woman assaults you and SHE will be arrested, especially if there is evidence of assualt. A lot of men are too macho to call the law.
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true, but when she told the police she hit him, were there any consideration for charges?
i doubt it.
 
Boyzmamacita said:
Men, you need to remember that you can call the police when a woman assaults you and SHE will be arrested, especially if there is evidence of assualt. A lot of men are too macho to call the law.
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Until she marks herself once she realizes the cops are coming.
 
Boyzmamacita said:
Men, you need to remember that you can call the police when a woman assaults you and SHE will be arrested, especially if there is evidence of assualt. A lot of men are too macho to call the law.
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That's the fun part though. Things are just warming up! :laugh:

But you're totally correct... the police should be called. o_O *ahem* Talk to you later.
 
perrykemp said:
I did. Agreed based on what I read it barely sounds like DV, however, that wasn't my point.

My point is, here on CZ, the first reaction to these kinds of things is often "gold digger", "attention hound", etc and very little room is left for the absolute possibility that some of the players accused are doing the wrong thing.
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If every man in American had hit a woman 1 time or even twice max in their lifetime, then DV would never have become a big issue. The laws and awareness campaigns came about because of sustained DV over a significant period of time and/or extreme DV like hospitalization and death. It was also a different situation years ago when women had no ability financially to get away from the abuser.

Fast forward to today, and this girl calls the police because of some minor issue where at most she got some scratches. She had the ability to leave and never come back. She was not some woman with 5 kids and no ability to get out of the situation.

I've heard recordings of some of these women telling athletes "I'll kill your career", meaning that they'll report the guy if she does not get what she wants.

Check out the Chris Rock video(s) on "How not to get your arse kicked by the police". There is one where the girl is mad at the guy and when he is stopped by the police, she screams out "He got weed". Apparently it is a common concept for these women to try to get the guy in trouble with the police when she's mad.
 
AbeBeta said:
She was going for $s?

Use your brain here. Calling 911 on him deflated his draft stock and will cost him likely around two million dollars (assuming he'd have gone roughly a round higher). How is that some sort of shakedown?
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Not all of these gold diggers are the smartest people.

She'll likely still get paid as I'm sure his agent will advise paying her off instead of leaving it to the courts to decide his fate.
 
AbeBeta said:
She was going for $s?

Use your brain here. Calling 911 on him deflated his draft stock and will cost him likely around two million dollars (assuming he'd have gone roughly a round higher). How is that some sort of shakedown?
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Well, she had to call the police or she gets nothing. She had to strike while the iron was hot, so to speak, and if the player is telling her they're through... then she won't have another chance to call the cops after he's been drafted.

Besides, she might not have just been after money for herself... but in actuality been looking for a way to hurt him (by ruining his draft stock). The power these girls have over players heading into the draft is just nuts.

That is assuming she was after the $$ (I'm not saying she was or wasn't). I don't know any details.
 
Boyzmamacita said:
That's my point. HE would have to press them. Most men think that's too soft so the woman gets away with it.
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do you think the police gave him the choice?
if they did, she may not be so eager to do any more DV charges.
 
Boyzmamacita said:
Men, you need to remember that you can call the police when a woman assaults you and SHE will be arrested, especially if there is evidence of assualt. A lot of men are too macho to call the law.
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That's a great theory, but the reality is that only a few police will take that seriously. Keep in mind that the job of police officer is not something that is highly desired. Police departments take what they can get. Sure some are great, but many are not very sensitive or intelligent.

If someone is abused, they need to get out and stay out of the relationship. Quit calling the police to be dispute counselors. Sure, if the very first time that a woman abuses a guy she sends him to the hospital, then report it to the cops; however, if it's been on-going slaps, kicks, etc.. the dude should just get his arse out of the relationship the first time it happens.

I saw a stat once but I can't recall the numbers. It was about the number of times that police are called for DV relative to how often it is considered a serious DV situation. I think it was about 100 to 1. Some people will call the police every time they have an argument, especially when alcohol is involved.
 
xwalker said:
That's a great theory, but the reality is that only a few police will take that seriously. Keep in mind that the job of police officer is not something that is highly desired. Police departments take what they can get. Sure some are great, but many are not very sensitive or intelligent.

If someone is abused, they need to get out and stay out of the relationship. Quit calling the police to be dispute counselors. Sure, if the very first time that a woman abuses a guy she sends him to the hospital, then report it to the cops; however, if it's been on-going slaps, kicks, etc.. the dude should just get his arse out of the relationship the first time it happens.

I saw a stat once but I can't recall the numbers. It was about the number of times that police are called for DV relative to how often it is considered a serious DV situation. I think it was about 100 to 1. Some people will call the police every time they have an argument, especially when alcohol is involved.
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I've had girls hit, scratch, and choke (try to) me.

Never once did I consider calling the police.

The police are conditioned to think it is the woman being abused.

I dated this crazy little girl (she weighed about 100 lbs.) and she was so jealous that it caused constant problems. She frequently would hit and slap on me but I was twice her size and it didn't hurt.

We were arguing in my car while we were driving with the windows down. She started kicking the inside of my windshield almost hard enough to kick it out... and she was screaming at the top of her lungs.

Well, we drove by a parked police car, who heard the screams and promptly pulled us over. They had me stand at the front of the car and took her back to their squad car. They asked her if I hit on her (I never, ever did) and she looked sideways at me and said no... but she said it like she was afraid to tell the truth. They thought for sure that I abused her.

The cops looked at me like I was Charles Manson or something and kept us standing there for a long, long time looking for bruises or scratches on her. She could have made it clear to them that I didn't ever hit her and that she was just throwing a fit because I was at a place where a girl she hated also happened to be. But nope. She played it out like an oscar winning actress.

Finally, I was like: "You gotta be ******* kidding me!"

They eventually just let us go but it made a lasting impression on me.
 
AbeBeta said:
And the number of women legitimately coming forward after being abused would also be greatly reduced. But I assume that's not your concern as you seem to have a default judgment that the woman must be lying
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You are right. But the innocent should have some recourse. Maybe a civil judgment if it can proven beyond a reasonable doubt that she was lying, like in Zeke's case.
 
perrykemp said:
I realize that, for most of us, we place Dallas Cowboys players on a pedestal. That's the nature of being a fan.

Having said that, I cringe at that the automatic reaction by many here on CZ to any domestic abuse related acquisition / incident where their first and immediate reaction is that the females are always just "gold digging", looking for fame, or generally speaking bad people.
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It has to do with he's a Cowboy. If he was on another team it probably would be different. I just hope he's innocent. Tired of players that don't have their head on straight.
 
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