Cowboys assistants hated parcells

[Maikeru-sama]

The ones that wanted to leave did. Those that stayed knew there was a chance Parcells was retiring. They chose to stay.

I dont know about that.

Based on what Mickey said today on the Ranch Report at 5:30 PM, he said he got the feeling that alot of the staff were almost positive that he was coming back. Said he got the feeling that they all felt he was coming back.

I am not saying they didnt know or didnt see the writing on the wall, but I think some of these guys would have done things differently (like look for another gig) if they knew what the end result was going to be, with regards to Parcells leaving.

 

[wileedog]

Once again, you're correct. It was their choice. I'd like to hear from some of them right now though. I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say they aren't too happy right now.

Everyone still here is under contract for at least another year. Even if Bill quit 2 hours after the Seattle game, Jerry was under no obligation to let them go interview for other jobs, he'd be well within his rights to keep them around until a new HC was found. That coach could then decide if he wanted to keep them or not.

And honestly, other than another opportunity to bash Parcells, does anyone really care if Paul Pasqualoni or Todd Haley are happy right now? Why does that matter to us?

Its business and these kind of things happen in business every day, in football or otherwise.

 

[iceberg]

You gonna embarrass yourself all night long? Zimmer couldn't wait to get away from Bill; David Lee clearly wanted to stay and tutor Romo but Bill was annoyingly ambivalent. The remaining coaches and their families will now be at the mercy of the next incoming coach. Thanks, Bill. You're a real humanitarian.

and some people can WAIT to get away from you. it happens, in life...this not getting along.

maybe parcells couldn't wait to get rid of zimmer - would that now make zimmer the bad guy? just because people don't get along doesn't automatically make one good and one bad.

 

[theogt]

I dont know about that.

Based on what Mickey said today on the Ranch Report at 5:30 PM, he said he got the feeling that alot of the staff were almost positive that he was coming back. Said he got the feeling that they all felt he was coming back.

I am not saying they didnt know or didnt see the writing on the wall, but I think some of these guys would have done things differently (like look for another gig) if they knew what the end result was going to be, with regards to Parcells leaving.

Of course we all thought it was more likely he would stay. There was always the risk of him leaving. We almost certainly knew it would be this year or next. They chose to take on that risk.

 

[ndanger]

You gonna embarrass yourself all night long? Zimmer couldn't wait to get away from Bill; David Lee clearly wanted to stay and tutor Romo but Bill was annoyingly ambivalent. The remaining coaches and their families will now be at the mercy of the next incoming coach. Thanks, Bill. You're a real humanitarian.

There is not an assistant coach in the NFL that is not fully aware that the league is such that job security is one of the few known benefits.I am sure none of them are devasted.

 

[Bleu Star]

I dont know about that.

Based on what Mickey said today on the Ranch Report at 5:30 PM, he said he got the feeling that alot of the staff were almost positive that he was coming back. Said he got the feeling that they all felt he was coming back.

I am not saying they didnt know or didnt see the writing on the wall, but I think some of these guys would have done things differently (like look for another gig) if they knew what the end result was going to be, with regards to Parcells leaving.

This was exactly my point and I believe there is some truth to this. It'll make its way into the media in the coming weeks. I guarantee you. When that next HC signing happens some interesting things will take place at VR and our favorite mediots will be right there to catch the events as they unfold.

 

[Bleu Star]

Its business and these kind of things happen in business every day, in football or otherwise.

I agree. Still, Parcells gaved them the business when he strung them out for two weeks along with the rest of us.

 

[bbgun]

Are you blind or can you simply not read?

I clearly stated that the ones that wanted to leave did. Zimmer wanted to leave. Good riddance.

David Lee took a offensive coordinator position at a D1 school that was in competition for the SEC Championship and BCS Championship this past season. He's clearly wanting to move up in the world and with the offensive staff we had here it wasn't likely that that was going to happen here.

The rest of the staff consciously took on a risk they knew existed. They're not in a terrible position right now because many can either keep their current jobs or get jobs elsewhere. Trust me, there's no shortage of positions in football for ex-Parcells assistants.

Seriously, keep embarassing yourself.

Hey, aren't you the guy who worships ESPN these days? Here's a snippet of what John "ESPN" Clayton had to say about our predicament:


Bill Parcells left Jerry Jones in a bind, a tough bind.

His Monday retirement 16 days after the season leaves Jones in the tough position of finding a new head coach for the Dallas Cowboys past the conference championship games. While that certainly leaves them in position to consider a Super Bowl coach such as Chicago Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, it would leave Rivera in the position of trying to put together a playoff-caliber staff in February, a job that is virtually impossible to do.

Romeo Crennel tried to do it in Cleveland and the former New England Patriots' coordinator is already on his second and third configurations of Browns' offensive staffs. Timing is everything in coaching hirings, and Parcells left Jones hanging a little too long.
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Did you read the Zimmer's interview in Atlanta? He was driven out by Bill's contempt for his own coaches and his refusal to let them make the necessary gameday adjustments. That's the toxic situation Dale's source was referring to. And only a moron would think Lee's departure represents a "step up." He's not even the HC at Arkansas. This is the equivalent of being sent to the minors. But by all means, spin away.

 

[theogt]

Hey, aren't you the guy who worships ESPN these days? Here's a snippet of what John "ESPN" Clayton had to say about our predicament:


Bill Parcells left Jerry Jones in a bind, a tough bind.

His Monday retirement 16 days after the season leaves Jones in the tough position of finding a new head coach for the Dallas Cowboys past the conference championship games. While that certainly leaves them in position to consider a Super Bowl coach such as Chicago Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, it would leave Rivera in the position of trying to put together a playoff-caliber staff in February, a job that is virtually impossible to do.

Romeo Crennel tried to do it in Cleveland and the former New England Patriots' coordinator is already on his second and third configurations of Browns' offensive staffs. Timing is everything in coaching hirings, and Parcells left Jones hanging a little too long.
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Did you read the Zimmer's interview in Atlanta? He was driven out by Bill's contempt for his own coaches and his refusal to let them make the necessary gameday adjustments. That's the toxic situation Dale's source was referring to. And only a moron would think Lee's departure represents a "step up." He's not even the HC at Arkansas. This is the equivalent of being sent to the minors. But by all means, spin away.

LOL! That passage actually refutes your logic. If it's hard to find quality coaches at this point in the season, then the assistants that aren't back here shouldn't have a problem finding jobs. That's intro economics. You argued a low demand was the problem but the source you cited states that a low supply exists. Hilarious.

Your second point actually refutes your argument as well. This is pretty funny. I've read Zimmer's interviews. He said he couldn't figure out what was wrong with the 3-4. He said he couldn't figure out the 3-4 and that he preferred the 4-3. He wanted out. So, what did he do? He left. If any of the other coaches wanted out (and why wouldn't they if Bill was so big, bad, and mean like you say?) they could have left too. They didn't.

Do you feel embarassed? You should.

 

[zeromaster]

this on GAC. a guy(reporter) said that a EX assitant coach in the NFL right now that coached in dallas in the last 4 yrs. said this, and this guy just said it was actually the 2nd conforimed report to him by mouth by a EX coach in dallas, that parcells enviroment @ VR was toxic.

This reeks of factuality (hehe). No sources, no names (except Parcells).

"You know a guy..." -Terry Benedict

 

[CowboyJeff]

Here’s even more fuel to add to the fire:

I may have posted this before, but I don’t remember. Back in 2002 a Texas Stadium employee who is a friend of mine and shall remain nameless was working the Philly game. This was the game if you remember where the Eagles attempted an onsides kick to start the game and Randall Williams ran it back for a TD. Near the end of the game he was standing outside the assistant coach’s booth upstairs in the stadium. He told me he heard Parcells screaming a profanity laced tirade at his defensive assistants during the Eagles last offensive series of the game, “You better find a ****ing way to stop them or I’ll fire all your *sses tomorrow!!!!” I’ve never forgotten this and chuckle every time I think about it.

 

[dfense]

this on GAC. a guy(reporter) said that a EX assitant coach in the NFL right now that coached in dallas in the last 4 yrs. said this, and this guy just said it was actually the 2nd conforimed report to him by mouth by a EX coach in dallas, that parcells enviroment @ VR was toxic.

Gotta love those "a guy" reports. I always buy right into those.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Last I checked, this is a well worn story. Everybody knows Parcells is hard on his staff and players. Everybody knows that this is how it is when you sign on. Everybody know that it's his way or the highway. Nobody has to stay. The door is always open and it swings both ways. Lastly, Parcells is gone. This is not new news. Why is this a discussion worth having? We know all of this already.

 

[CounterTrey]

I welcome anyone to prove to me how Parcells "corralled" Owens. Suddently the exodus of Parcells means Owens can't be a team player. Prove it. I'll sleep on that one.

I'm sure you'll point to how he destroyed the 9ers and Eagles... zzz The changing of TO for the better began in Dallas this year and it didn't have much to do with Parcells.

OMG...you can't possibly be serious are you? The changing for the better of TO started this year???

Let's see, the guy caused a circus with his handling of a failry minor Hamstring injury before your team even got started.

Then the guy either blows a suicide or shows himself to be a bumblimg boob of epic proportions by taking so many pills he needed a trip to the Hospital. Mind you Hydrocodone will knowck you on your butt with just a few pills and he would have gotten all kinds of emphatic warnings from the prescriber and pharmacist about improper use.

The fallout was classic TO:

Owens' publicist lashed out at the police and said they took advantage of him. Notably, Owens himself made no such statements, and at his press conference praised both the police and medical personnel who treated him. Following the publicist's statement, the president of the Dallas Police Association (which represents rank-and-file police officers in Dallas) demanded an apology from Owens and his publicist saying "The officers reacted because they were called to this location to do this job. Now they’re being put under a microscope by some fancy little football person. Give me a break. Those officers are 10 times better than this man. ... We police officers don’t go out to these calls and make stuff up."

As if that's not enough from one player for the season, he got fined 35K for spitting on a player. Then after getting called on it bigtime he tried to backtrack and say he didn't do it and it was just spittle. Please.

Oh yea throw in that he led the league in dropsies while failing to disclose an injury (another league rule broken) and didn't do squat in the games that your team needed him the most.

That's what you call a changing for the better of TO?

WOW!

You want proof that TO can't be a team player. How about you flip that and show some proof of TO's ability to be a team player, that'd be a hell of a lot tougher than proving he's virtually certain to NOT be good teammate. The guy has YET to do it outside of maybe one year in Philly. Good team players don't gripe about not getting the ball enough when only two guys in the league have been thrown to more.

 

[JPM]

this on GAC. a guy(reporter) said that a EX assitant coach in the NFL right now that coached in dallas in the last 4 yrs. said this, and this guy just said it was actually the 2nd conforimed report to him by mouth by a EX coach in dallas, that parcells enviroment @ VR was toxic.

* Yawn * He's gone who cares anymore.

 

[DLCassidy]

Gotta love those "a guy" reports. I always buy right into those.

:laugh2:

 

[hank2k]

This is flawed logic. If he had brought that same discipline to the field then we would not be here wondering where our next HC will come from b/c he would have won us some playoff games. He didn't have anything else in the tank. Goodbye. See Ya. Adios. Sayonara. Arevaderche!

I welcome anyone to prove to me how Parcells "corralled" Owens. Suddently the exodus of Parcells means Owens can't be a team player. Prove it. I'll sleep on that one.

I'm sure you'll point to how he destroyed the 9ers and Eagles... zzz The changing of TO for the better began in Dallas this year and it didn't have much to do with Parcells.

When TO starts playing in games this season after sitting out from practice all week with a BS injury youll know. And then it will spread to the rest of the team...next thing you know 6-10 here we come

 

[iceberg]

We could also put out there that most of these guys knew what was going down and decided to leave with Parcells. Either way we lost no major assistants.

at this point - do we have any left???

 

[zrinkill]

When TO starts playing in games this season after sitting out from practice all week with a BS injury youll know.

He never has done that before ...... You must be thinking about Larry Allen

 

[superpunk]

Gotta love those "a guy" reports. I always buy right into those.

When has "a guy" ever been wrong? I can personally vouch for "a guy", and say that "a guy" is correct roughly nearly half of most of all of the time. Over the years, you get to know "a guy", and you realize that when "a guy" speaks, people listen.

Who killed your son?

Some Puerto Rican Guy.