Cowboys could be looking at their next HC in Detroit's Ben Johnson

[plasticman]

Most likely, he's much smarter than that and wouldn't tolerate the burden of Jerry's ego.

If a coach is the NFL's new young innovator, he's not going to risk his potential for the honor of standing next to Jerry Jones as the "GM" explains to the media how he was the architect of the championship team. The new HC was simply the hired help necessary to implement Jerry's vision.

Good coaches realize that there has to be a plan. a unique. bold method of building a team that is committed to winning. He also knows that the plan must be followed, no deviation.

The minute a coach signs on with the Cowboys his brilliant plan is dead. The new coach eventually realizes that any authority in building the team the way he wanted was an illusion.

The only HC's that Jerry has the opportunity to hire will be the desperate ones trying to repeat past glory to prove they still have it. Of course, they won't have it.

Long before his efforts are completely sabotaged by the Jones's, the new HC will realize that he is there to absorb the "accountability" after which comes the humiliating experience of being fired by the person whose fault it really was.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Here's a wild card to keep in mind.......Arron Glenn, Lions defensive coor.

Check out his list of mentors
Dan Campbell .....former Dallas Cowboy player
Sean Payton........former Dallas Cowboy coach
Rex Ryan............
Bill Parcell...........

****He played 2 years for the Cowboys under Parcell
What kind of recommendation do you think he will from this list.............

 

[StuckMojo]

BB wouldn’t have the energy at his age to put into being a Head Coach,he has to conserve his energy for his 24 year old girlfriend!

 

[75boyz]

I'm leaning to The Return of Kellen Moore.
Also known as Jason Garrett II, the sequel.
Lol

 

[Canadian BoyzFan]

No thank you.

 

[blueblood70]

Cowboys could be looking at their next HC in Detroit’s Ben Johnson
reidhanson
October 11, 2024

The Cowboys might be getting a sneak peek at their next head coach when the Lions come to Dallas on Sunday. Week 6 doesn’t just offer a matchup of NFC playoff hopefuls, but it also delivers them a firsthand audition of the hottest coordinator in the NFL.

Ben Johnson, Detroit’s highly productive offensive coordinator, has fast become one of the most respected offensive minds in the NFL. He’s also a coveted head coach candidate who will likely headline a 2025 list of coaching prospects that includes the likes of Bill Belichick, Bobby Slowik and Mike Vrabel.

It’s safe to say the Joneses have a pretty good idea what the future hold for McCarthy. They likely have their eyes on a few possible replacements this season and it’s a pretty safe bet Johnson is one of those. On Sunday afternoon they get a firsthand look at that candidate, all from the comfort of the owner’s suite. It’s a perfect opportunity to see what all the fuss is about.

More: https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...ohnson/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

not me I'd be looking at Vrabel, maybe BillB, but really id take Flores from MN , we need a defensive minded head coach this time... If we truly ever are gonna change the culture around here get tougher more physical and play better in the playoffs we need a defensive minded coach.. We've had our run of offensive minds around here and I think we need to go against the grain we wanna break the drought we wanna break habits Jerry Jones needs a higher and more tough minded coach...

 

[blueblood70]

BB wouldn’t have the energy at his age to put into being a Head Coach,he has to conserve his energy for his 24 year old girlfriend!

Why not he has a core here he doesn't have to rebuild he has his cornerstone pieces all along the major areas of the team all he'd have to do is fill in this team still has a window open they're not blowing this team up we have a bunch of very young talent mixed with a couple of three-year guys very few veterans that are gonna be retiring I mean we have their backups almost in place this team isn't as bad as people think it is it only needs what I believe we should hire a defensive minded coach a tougher coach or somebody that's been through this type of thing.

I'd be looking at Vrabel, maybe BillB, but really id take Flores from MN , we need a defensive minded head coach this time... If we truly ever are gonna change the culture around here get tougher more physical and play better in the playoffs we need a defensive minded coach.. We've had our run of offensive minds around here and I think we need to go against the grain we wanna break the drought we wanna break habits Jerry Jones needs a higher and more tough minded coach...

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Here's a wild card to keep in mind.......Arron Glenn, Lions defensive coor.

I thought of that also, but I believe Jerry will want an offensive guy to try to get Dak to the next level. He has to justify that 231 million guaranteed contract.

I still think Klint Kubiak is a good option. Jerry knows Gary well and Klint's brother is a scout for the Cowboys already. Plus he is a very promising OC anyway who runs the Shanahan system.

And he even worked for Zimmer before. You could probably get Zimmer to stay and sell it as continuity.

 

[dacoming]

We need a young innovative offensive coach with a strong DC like Saleh

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I thought of that also, but I believe Jerry will want an offensive guy to try to get Dak to the next level. He has to justify that 231 million guaranteed contract.

I still think Klint Kubiak is a good option. Jerry knows Gary well and Klint's brother is a scout for the Cowboys already. Plus he is a very promising OC anyway who runs the Shanahan system.

And he even worked for Zimmer before. You could probably get Zimmer to stay and sell it as continuity.

I agree that there are a lot of connections with Kubiak. Yea, Klay is currently working under Shanahan. Klein is a Cowboy scout. I believe Klint is a top candidate. Especially if Jerry decides to go with a young guy.



Klay Kubiak

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I do think any new hire will be someone who Jerry thinks can get the best from Dak and Parsons. In other words, if he is a defensive guy, he better have an excellent OC in his pocket to get the job and vice versa with an offensive guy.

 

[pitt33]

Ha.

That’s funny.

He’s way too young. Jerry likes him some retreads.

 

[AsthmaField]

It is possible. Jerry was so upset to see a young, innovative coach like Sean Payton get away that he vowed not to let it happen with Garrett and made sure to make him the next head coach. That didn’t work out great but it shows that Jerry was ready to put the job in the hands of a guy like Ben Johnson.

However, that was a while back and with Jerry pushing the age envelope, he might see things differently now. We can’t know. It does show though that Jerry isn’t against a young up-and-coming coach like this.

It’ll be interesting.

 

[stilltheguru]

No! Detroit is Detroit because of Campbell not Johnson.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

not me I'd be looking at Vrabel, maybe BillB, but really id take Flores from MN

+1 Hiring a defensive coach would my first priority also as long as he brings a top OC with him.

 

[Mr_437]

Cowboys could be looking at their next HC in Detroit’s Ben Johnson
reidhanson
October 11, 2024

The Cowboys might be getting a sneak peek at their next head coach when the Lions come to Dallas on Sunday. Week 6 doesn’t just offer a matchup of NFC playoff hopefuls, but it also delivers them a firsthand audition of the hottest coordinator in the NFL.

Ben Johnson, Detroit’s highly productive offensive coordinator, has fast become one of the most respected offensive minds in the NFL. He’s also a coveted head coach candidate who will likely headline a 2025 list of coaching prospects that includes the likes of Bill Belichick, Bobby Slowik and Mike Vrabel.

It’s safe to say the Joneses have a pretty good idea what the future hold for McCarthy. They likely have their eyes on a few possible replacements this season and it’s a pretty safe bet Johnson is one of those. On Sunday afternoon they get a firsthand look at that candidate, all from the comfort of the owner’s suite. It’s a perfect opportunity to see what all the fuss is about.

More: https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...ohnson/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Absolutely!!!
Johnson should be having a dinner with representatives today secretly.

 

[AsthmaField]

No! Detroit is Detroit because of Campbell not Johnson.

I agree with that. I loved Campbell as a head coach ever since I saw what he did in Miami as their interim coach. The guy can coach and he instills toughness. When people were laughing at him when he took over in Detroit, I said “just watch”.

However, having said that, Johnson is a very, very bright young offensive mind who has worked closely with Campbell to make Detroit a great team and an offensive juggernaut. He would modernize the offense for sure, and we’d just have to hope that he picked up a lot from Campbell in how to be a head coach.

It would be somewhat of a gamble but it always will be if you’re trying to find a guy like McVay, LaFluer, or Sean Payton (when he first started in New Orleans).

It is a gamble that I, personally, would be willing to take, most likely.

 

[gimmesix]

Which is why I can’t see any young up and comer being a HC here while JJ is still the dominant figure here. Which is why I think a lot of our fans believe Bill B is the next HC here. I don’t share that view because I don’t think Belechick could ever agree to work in a circus like this.

I think it would take someone like Belichick because Jerry respects his success and would listen to him like he did Parcells. I thought that would be the case with McCarthy since he had won a Super Bowl, but McCarthy either agreed to the Joneses' free agent philosophy or wasn't able to change it. Parcells was the closest we came to having a head coach with direct influence on our philosophy. He brought in FOBs to fill out his roster and changed how we drafted. He also brought in his own coaches, including Sean Payton as OC.

It wasn't a dictatorship. The front office convinced Parcells to keep Zimmer, convinced him to accept Owens and even convinced him to draft Ware ahead of Spears (from what I understand), which shows that convincing Parcells was sometimes a good thing. But Parcells had an outsized influence that no other coach has had since Jimmy and it's going to take that again to have a chance. I truly believe Parcells was close to getting us back to where we needed to be (I mean, he did even make the playoffs with Quincy Carter at QB), but he burned out and we went back to the Joneses running the show.

 

[calico]

Nothing about Jerry's history of hiring Head Coaches validates this take. He's not interested in talented young coaches, innovative coaches in their prime, and would have to find a guy comfortable operating in the Joneses multi billon dollar circus.

He'll make the lazy Belichick hire after McCarthy is gone and probably interview one more person for Rooney purposes, and "win" the offseason. We've seen this movie before.

Yeah. We all know we are getting another retread coach.

Nobody young or innovative, that’s for sure.

Jerry is just a money bag for washed coaches. Hell, big Mike openly admitted to lying to Jerry during the interview at his hiring presser.
He pantsed jerry right there on the podium.

It’ll be another embarrassing hire.

 

[gimmesix]

I agree with that. I loved Campbell as a head coach ever since I saw what he did in Miami as their interim coach. The guy can coach and he instills toughness. When people were laughing at him when he took over in Detroit, I said “just watch”.

However, having said that, Johnson is a very, very bright young offensive mind who has worked closely with Campbell to make Detroit a great team and an offensive juggernaut. He would modernize the offense for sure, and we’d just have to hope that he picked up a lot from Campbell in how to be a head coach.

It would be somewhat of a gamble but it always will be if you’re trying to find a guy like McVay, LaFluer, or Sean Payton (when he first started in New Orleans).

It is a gamble that I, personally, would be willing to take, most likely.

I'm always concerned when the bright, young offensive mind is working under an offensive coach. How much of what they do is Johnson and how much is Campbell? It's kind of like Frank Reich. Reich was a hot head coaching name after the Eagles won the Super Bowl, but he served under an offensive head coach in Pederson.

I prefer getting a coordinator whose head coach's specialty is on the other side of the ball. If the head coach is defensive-minded, then you know the offense is all about the coordinator. If the head coach is offensive-minded, then you know the defense is all about the coordinator.

 

[Brax]

He’s the kind of coach we need…IF…he would be allowed to be in control. Sadly, that will never happen as long as the oldest GM in NFL history is breathing.

JJ likes his head coaches to be completely fine with helicopters landing in the middle of practice, tours happening around the clock at the practice facility, multiple radio shows during game week revealing more than the HC wants, Sheiks from all over the world all over the field in practice or pre-game, and a constant parade of film crews and media types everywhere all the time. The circus is permanently in town as long as Jerry Jones is breathing.

I have a hard time believing a bright young coaching prospect like Ben Johnson wants to make this show his first head coaching stop.

So can someone please explain to me again who wants to work in this circus?

I’ll take the job at 5 million a year, heck I can say yes Jerry you are right as good as the next guy