Cowboys could be looking at their next HC in Detroit's Ben Johnson

[Cowboys5217]

Cowboys could be looking at their next HC in Detroit’s Ben Johnson
reidhanson
October 11, 2024

The Cowboys might be getting a sneak peek at their next head coach when the Lions come to Dallas on Sunday. Week 6 doesn’t just offer a matchup of NFC playoff hopefuls, but it also delivers them a firsthand audition of the hottest coordinator in the NFL.

Ben Johnson, Detroit’s highly productive offensive coordinator, has fast become one of the most respected offensive minds in the NFL. He’s also a coveted head coach candidate who will likely headline a 2025 list of coaching prospects that includes the likes of Bill Belichick, Bobby Slowik and Mike Vrabel.

It’s safe to say the Joneses have a pretty good idea what the future hold for McCarthy. They likely have their eyes on a few possible replacements this season and it’s a pretty safe bet Johnson is one of those. On Sunday afternoon they get a firsthand look at that candidate, all from the comfort of the owner’s suite. It’s a perfect opportunity to see what all the fuss is about.

More: https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...ohnson/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

They misspelled "Zimmer". We all know it's coming.

 

[AsthmaField]

I'm always concerned when the bright, young offensive mind is working under an offensive coach. How much of what they do is Johnson and how much is Campbell? It's kind of like Frank Reich. Reich was a hot head coaching name after the Eagles won the Super Bowl, but he served under an offensive head coach in Pederson.

I prefer getting a coordinator whose head coach's specialty is on the other side of the ball. If the head coach is defensive-minded, then you know the offense is all about the coordinator. If the head coach is offensive-minded, then you know the defense is all about the coordinator.

I understand… it would be a risk. I think some of that kind of thing can be deduced from a thorough interview process. Some things you’d only know after the guy has had his shot. It’s difficult to tell.

I think a guy like Sean Payton picked up a ton from his time working with Parcells. You’d have to hope that Johnson picked up a lot from Campbell (who picked up a lot from Parcells playing for him, and from Payton coaching with him).

I agree with your philosophy of getting an offensive mind from a situation where he was under a defensive head coach (or vice versa). Every time someone hires an offensive coordinator out from under Andy Reid, I’m like, lol. Andy is the offensive genius, and everyone knows it.

Note: I was very happy to see Andy Reid leave the NFC East.

I’ll end with this: My perspective out of Detroit is that Campbell doesn’t do as much to make that offense so good as Johnson does. Campbell instills the entire team philosophy, getting them to play with a tough, physical nature, and working on playing smart, high-effort football. It is what he did in his little time as Miami HC.

I feel that Johnson is X’s and O’s guy for the offense.

I could definitely be wrong about that though. It is an outside-looking-in perspective, for sure.

 

[gimmesix]

I understand… it would be a risk. I think some of that kind of thing can be deduced from a thorough interview process. Some things you’d only know after the guy has had his shot. It’s difficult to tell.

I think a guy like Sean Payton picked up a ton from his time working with Parcells. You’d have to hope that Johnson picked up a lot from Campbell (who picked up a lot from Parcells playing for him, and from Payton coaching with him).

I agree with your philosophy of getting an offensive mind from a situation where he was under a defensive head coach (or vice versa). Every time someone hires an offensive coordinator out from under Andy Reid, I’m like, lol. Andy is the offensive genius, and everyone knows it.

Note: I was very happy to see Andy Reid leave the NFC East.

I’ll end with this: My perspective out of Detroit is that Campbell doesn’t do as much to make that offense so good as Johnson does. Campbell instills the entire team philosophy, getting them to play with a tough, physical nature, and working on playing smart, high-effort football. It is what he did in his little time as Miami HC.

I feel that Johnson is X’s and O’s guy for the offense.

I could definitely be wrong about that though. It is an outside-looking-in perspective, for sure.

Could be. I think Payton is a good example. He learned from Parcells, but Parcells wasn't an offensive mind, so when Payton became a head coach, he took his offensive acumen with him. As a former tight end, I think Campbell gets less credit for his influence on his team's offense than he probably deserves, but we'll see. Besides that's not the only reasons OCs and DCs fail as head coach. Some are just unable to run the whole operation. They are great sticking to their specialties but unable to lead a team. Wade Phillips was one of those. His defense was a big reason why Denver won a Super Bowl in 2016, but as a head coach, he sucked.

 

[AsthmaField]

Could be. I think Payton is a good example. He learned from Parcells, but Parcells wasn't an offensive mind, so when Payton became a head coach, he took his offensive acumen with him. As a former tight end, I think Campbell gets less credit for his influence on his team's offense that he probably deserves, but we'll see. Besides that's not the only reasons OCs and DCs fail as head coach. Some are just unable to run the whole operation. They are great sticking to their specialties but unable to lead a team. Wade Phillips was one of those.

Difficult to argue with any of that.

 

[Momanpr100]

McCarthy doesn't get enough credit for all the crap he has to deal with lol. He been telling the Jones for 3 years already that we need to get more physical, 3 years. I don't know if our scouts are able to identify actual physical players. Just my 2 cents.

 

[RonWashington]

I mentioned Ben Johnson awhile ago other threads . McVey Shanahan LaFleur …. Shanahan just went up against former Balt DC McDonald who is the HC Seattle . Blew the doors off the Seahawks .

Yes I want a young innovative OC as the next HC for obvious reasons , 88 and 4 plus install a functional running attack . I’m not concerned about finding a DC they are out there . Dallas needs to be an offensive threat not settle for soccer kicks .

Ben Johnson would be a very nice hire if MM doesn’t make it past this season .

 

[nalam]

Nothing about Jerry's history of hiring Head Coaches validates this take. He's not interested in talented young coaches, innovative coaches in their prime, and would have to find a guy comfortable operating in the Joneses multi billon dollar circus.

He'll make the lazy Belichick hire after McCarthy is gone and probably interview one more person for Rooney purposes, and "win" the offseason. We've seen this movie before.

Bellicheat , for whatever his flaws, always fielded a very good defense every year.that would be a first after many seasons in Dallas, but its another matter with his offenses ( minus GOAT TB 12 )

 

[RonWashington]

The Patriots were in the gutter of the AFCE once Brady left . He’s older than MM and I remember when BB and Zeke came to Dallas the Cowboys steamrolled them . A stat fattening up game for the Cowboys.

The Patriots looked out coached and lost .

 

[fivetwos]

+1 Hiring a defensive coach would my first priority also as long as he brings a top OC with him.

Flores would be an excellent choice actually. I thought he did a great job in Miami.

Depends though. This is his second and likely final shot. Not sure Dallas is what he chooses for that, even if Jerry is willing to hire him.

Tough to say though. All Jerry really needs is the right scotch buzz and to be dazzled by some football speak that he doesn’t understand and is impressed by.

Ahh wait….didn’t Flores do something like dime out the Dolphins owner for some sort of behavior? Yeah forget it. Flores ain’t happening in Dallas.

 

[Cowboyny]

But can your EXPERIENCED hire ( former defensive coor ) bring in a modern offensive coordinator? See Dan Q and the Commanders

That is our best hope. Still believe if MM does not return, we will be looking at a veteran hire for HC. I really do like Ben Johnson, though.

 

[RonWashington]

Flores burned a lot of bridges . And scratch Vrabel and Josh Daniels . In fact let’s look past the Patriots BB coaching tree and look elsewhere .

You sign the QB & WR to monster deals . Yes Dallas needs a young innovator OC as next HC . Ben Johnson Kliff Kingsbury etc etc

 

[Chasing6]

Why would an up and coming HC come to Dallas?

Jethro only attracts retreads and retirees who’s phones aren’t ringing.

Jerry will not contact anyone he will wait for BB to call him.

 

[Coogiguy03]

They misspelled "Zimmer". We all know it's coming.

everyone calls him zimmerman I can't stand it lol

 

[RonWashington]

If Detroit on Sunday turns into New Orleans or Baltimore was for 3 quarters that’s huge for MM . Will not be good .

 

[Coogiguy03]

If Detroit on Sunday turns into New Orleans or Baltimore was for 3 quarters that’s huge for MM . Will not be good .

All they need to do is run it at us, and throw the ball short to their RB's if we can't make tackles it's over. Eventually they may look to go deep To williamson

 

[FanofJerry]

Nothing about Jerry's history of hiring Head Coaches validates this take. He's not interested in talented young coaches, innovative coaches in their prime, and would have to find a guy comfortable operating in the Joneses multi billon dollar circus.

He'll make the lazy Belichick hire after McCarthy is gone and probably interview one more person for Rooney purposes, and "win" the offseason. We've seen this movie before.

Can you provide me a quick dialogue on how a convo between between Ben Johnson and Bill Belicheck would go if they were to have to sit down and explain their game plan to each other?

How would Ben Johnson be so much better of a hire compared to a guy with tons of knowledge?

Does it really just boil down to being young and maybe having a couple of good ideas here and there? Im sure every coach has had a few good ideas.

Is Ben Johnson's decision making on the fly better? How do you prove that? Does he make quicker adjustments?

I just dont get how all these FO's are just kicking Bill to the curb with all that knowledge? Maybe it is locker room chemistry and he doesnt relate to the players. I just dont see that as being a super big issue when you have a coach with tons of knowledge. Seems like knowledge would trump coach/player chemistry. I am a big fan of coaches being player coaches, though.

No one seems to have any solid answers as to why Big Bill should be sent off to the pasture. Posters are just saying "Go young" without any good reasons. Sure, you would prefer a coach that could be with you 10 years...but most coaches come and go within 3...so who cares about Bill's age?

I think if you were to sit down and play a football strategy game with each coach explaining every play....I think Bill would come across as the better manager compared with a young guy. As in...my money would be on Bill to have more ideas to counter a strategy than the young guy.

Young only matters if you want a coach for 10 years, you think players need young coaches they can relate to or if you think coaches need to be young so they can breathe fire at players discipline wise.

Everyone is saying 'young, innovative coaches'....but wouldnt older coaches who have been in the game for a while at the highest level and seen a lot....wouldnt the game be slowed down for them and they would have a more ideas since they have seen a lot?

It just doesnt make sense to me why so many are screaming 'go young' all the time.

 

[RonWashington]

All they need to do is run it at us, and throw the ball short to their RB's if we can't make tackles it's over. Eventually they may look to go deep To williamson

Shorthanded or not you can’t keep getting blown out at home and expect to come back next year. Huge game for coaches and where 2024 is headed .

 

[exciter]

S

Cowboys could be looking at their next HC in Detroit’s Ben Johnson
reidhanson
October 11, 2024

The Cowboys might be getting a sneak peek at their next head coach when the Lions come to Dallas on Sunday. Week 6 doesn’t just offer a matchup of NFC playoff hopefuls, but it also delivers them a firsthand audition of the hottest coordinator in the NFL.

Ben Johnson, Detroit’s highly productive offensive coordinator, has fast become one of the most respected offensive minds in the NFL. He’s also a coveted head coach candidate who will likely headline a 2025 list of coaching prospects that includes the likes of Bill Belichick, Bobby Slowik and Mike Vrabel.

It’s safe to say the Joneses have a pretty good idea what the future hold for McCarthy. They likely have their eyes on a few possible replacements this season and it’s a pretty safe bet Johnson is one of those. On Sunday afternoon they get a firsthand look at that candidate, all from the comfort of the owner’s suite. It’s a perfect opportunity to see what all the fuss is about.

More: https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...ohnson/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Say It!
Say it!
Say it!

Kellen Moore!

 

[RonWashington]

S

Say It!
Say it!
Say it!

Kellen Moore!

 

[Praxit]

...cowboys beat Det, tomorrow. Extension card will get another punch for MM.