Cowboys could wait to sign Atogwe

[peplaw06]

Man up and answer the question. Very simple. Yes or no.

Is Peyton Manning 4 times better than Jim Sorgi?

And yes Delhomme was a starter last year (FYI) and is looking to be a starter this year (Delhomme's words just recently).

Really this thread has run its course, so I hesitate to say this.

But the answer is no. Peyton Manning is not 4 times better than Delhomme or Sorgi.

You wanted it, there it is.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I think some of you need to take a muscle relaxer as your sphincters are going to snap like an old rubber band if they get any tighter.

Why do that? You live in an area rich in coal, let's cultivate this and start a sphincter induced diamond trade! :

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Why do that? You live in an area rich in coal, let's cultivate this and start a sphincter induced diamond trade! :

YES!!! Money to be made and sphincters to be stretched....wait...that sounds perverted.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Really this thread has run its course, so I hesitate to say this.

But the answer is no. Peyton Manning is not 4 times better than Delhomme or Sorgi.

You wanted it, there it is.

Peplaw, who are you? I'm waiting for Hos to answer. But, hey, thanks for your response How many games you think the Colts would have won with Sorgi at QB last year? Take Peyton out and put Sorgi in and the Colts would be drafting before the Skins this year.

 

[TheSport78]

My point is, you're trying to do the "noble thing" by doing EXACTLY what you profess to dislike...



Well, hey, I've made a perfectly clear, logical point several times now (that in the course of "trying to stop this ridiculous thread", you're engaging in the same "ridiculous" behavior), and you seem determined to miss the point...

And as for "seriously, who do you think you are?", let me just note that I'm not the arrogant individual who's "trying to stop this ridiculous thread"...

I guess you think you're a moderator, so I don't know where you get off trying to stop ANYTHING in here... as you have said yourself, if you don't like this thread, stay out of it...

You see, none of us looks to you for moral guidance... if I felt the need for such guidance, please accept my assurances that I'd look to somebody whose moral code is a bit less flexible than yours seems to be (you seem to be a big proponent of the "do as I say, not as I do" club)...

In case you haven't figured it out yet, you picked the wrong poster to jump on, pal... I decide for myself what is or isn't appropriate behavior in here, and for the most part, the mods seem to agree with me (for the most part, LOL)...

So I don't need you telling me how I should post, thank you very much...

Wow, that is sad. Good to know how seriously you take internet forums. What a joke!

 

[Hostile]

Man up and answer the question. Very simple. Yes or no.

Is Peyton Manning 4 times better than Jim Sorgi?

And yes Delhomme was a starter last year (FYI) and is looking to be a starter this year (Delhomme's words just recently).

In terms of production under equal situations, no. As I said before, no one is. As good as Peyton Manning is, and I consider him to be the best QB who has ever played, he is not 4 times better than anyone. He is simply better.

No one can tell me that he can win 4 times as many games, throw for 4 times as much yardage and TDs on a consistent basis. All it take is for Sorgi to throw for 150 yards and Manning has to throw for 600 to be 4 times as good. In case you were blissfully unaware of it, no one, including Peyton, has ever been able to accomplish that.

So the answer to your rather silly question is no. Just like it was for Ed Reed being 4 times better than Hamlin and Atogwe being every bit as good as Reed since he was also 4 times better. It was nothing but juvenile grousing.

Satisfied?

 

[TwoCentPlain]

In terms of production under equal situations, no. As I said before, no one is. As good as Peyton Manning is, and I consider him to be the best QB who has ever played, he is not 4 times better than anyone. He is simply better.

No one can tell me that he can win 4 times as many games, throw for 4 times as much yardage and TDs on a consistent basis. All it take is for Sorgi to throw for 150 yards and Manning has to throw for 600 to be 4 times as good. In case you were blissfully unaware of it, no one, including Peyton, has ever been able to accomplish that.

So the answer to your rather silly question is no. Just like it was for Ed Reed being 4 times better than Hamlin and Atogwe being every bit as good as Reed since he was also 4 times better. It was nothing but juvenile grousing.

Satisfied?

No. Your rather "silly" answer doesn't satisfy me. The stats you use to measure better (i.e. completed yds) are warped. What happens if Sorgi's completes 140 of his yds in the 4th qtr when his team is down by 28 and the defense is in the prevent? The same Peyton would most likely have his team up in the 4th by 14 and have thrown for 300 yds. Your stat is then totally garbage.

Peyton is worlds better than Sorgi. It ain't even close. That is why their paychecks are worlds apart. Sorgi most likely couldn't have lead the Colts to 3 victories last year.

We disagree. So be it. Your anti-hyperbole rant is as illogical as your stat comparison. Let the hyperboles roll on imo.

 

[Hostile]

No. Your rather "silly" answer doesn't satisfy me. The stats you use to measure better (i.e. completed yds) are warped. What happens if Sorgi's completes 140 of his yds in the 4th qtr when his team is down by 28 and the defense is in the prevent? The same Peyton would most likely have his team up in the 4th by 14 and have thrown for 300 yds. Your stat is then totally garbage.

Peyton is worlds better than Sorgi. It ain't even close. That is why their paychecks are worlds apart. Sorgi most likely couldn't have lead the Colts to 3 victories last year.

We disagree. So be it. Your anti-hyperbole rant is as illogical as your stat comparison. Let the hyperboles roll on imo.

I could have made book on that.

I didn't say Sorgi was close to Manning. Not once, not ever. It is a shame that you can't grasp that. Truly a shame.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

I didn't say Sorgi was close to Manning. Not once, not ever. It is a shame that you can't grasp that. Truly a shame.

All you said was that Manning is simply better than Sorgi. You didn't (couldn't?) say how much better. And then you used as justification some ridiculous stat measure to make your point. Which I ripped to shreds.

I'd suggest you go back and re-read your posts, but I don't think it would help you understand anything. No logic will ever penetrate your hard noggin Or maybe it's my noggin that is hard

Gotta go to Germany now. Take care. Hopefully, no hard feelings. I enjoyed the dialogue with you.

ps I still want Cody in the 2nd and a kicker in the 6th.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

All you said was that Manning is simply better than Sorgi. You didn't (couldn't?) say how much better. And then you used as justification some ridiculous stat measure to make your point. Which I ripped to shreds.

I'd suggest you go back and re-read your posts, but I don't think it would help you understand anything. No logic will ever penetrate your hard noggin Or maybe it's my noggin that is hard

Gotta go to Germany now. Take care. Hopefully, no hard feelings. I enjoyed the dialogue with you.

ps I still want Cody in the 2nd and a kicker in the 6th.

You had to go there...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Wee need to switch to a new literary device for this Atogwe thread. How about foreshadowing, irony, anthropomorphism, motif paradox or metaphor?

Hyperbole is so Wednesday.

 

[peplaw06]

But, hey, thanks for your response How many games you think the Colts would have won with Sorgi at QB last year? Take Peyton out and put Sorgi in and the Colts would be drafting before the Skins this year.

It's a shame you have no sense of relativity.

Here's why Peyton Manning is not 4 times better than Jim Sorgi.

How many total quarterbacks are there in the NFL? Counting all backups and practice squad players, let's say 100, for a nice round number. Let's limit this to American men just for simplicity's sake, although technically you could include foreign men in this scenario. The US has roughly 300 million people, roughly half of them being men, so 150 million American men.

You're talking about .0000067% of the available pool of people actually become NFL QBs. Jim Sorgi happens to be one of them. So does Jake Delhomme, and any other NFL QB you want to compare Manning to. The real difference between one NFL QB to another is infinitesimally small.

Even if you want to rank them 1 to 100 and Manning is 1 and Sorgi is 100, the actual difference is nowhere near four times, because these guys are numbers 1 and 100 out of 150,000,000.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's a shame you have no sense of relativity.

Here's why Peyton Manning is not 4 times better than Jim Sorgi.

How many total quarterbacks are there in the NFL? Counting all backups and practice squad players, let's say 100, for a nice round number. Let's limit this to American men just for simplicity's sake, although technically you could include foreign men in this scenario. The US has roughly 300 million people, roughly half of them being men, so 150 million American men.

You're talking about .0000067% of the available pool of people actually become NFL QBs. Jim Sorgi happens to be one of them. So does Jake Delhomme, and any other NFL QB you want to compare Manning to. The real difference between one NFL QB to another is infinitesimally small.

Even if you want to rank them 1 to 100 and Manning is 1 and Sorgi is 100, the actual difference is nowhere near four times, because these guys are numbers 1 and 100 out of 150,000,000.

All you are doing is choosing an arbitrary standard and the acting as if that is the only one. Why not make it mammals or better yet do something that makes sense like limit the comparison to NFL QBs.

 

[Hostile]

All you said was that Manning is simply better than Sorgi. You didn't (couldn't?) say how much better. And then you used as justification some ridiculous stat measure to make your point. Which I ripped to shreds.

You couldn't rip toilet paper to shreds.

I'd suggest you go back and re-read your posts, but I don't think it would help you understand anything. No logic will ever penetrate your hard noggin Or maybe it's my noggin that is hard

The Candian guy had much better advice for me. Construction, English Professor, etc. He never did tell me red or green chile for the tacos though. I went with the green.

Gotta go to Germany now. Take care. Hopefully, no hard feelings. I enjoyed the dialogue with you.

Why would I have hard feelings over you being wrong?

ps I still want Cody in the 2nd and a kicker in the 6th.

Well, you know what they say, you can wish in one hand...

 

[peplaw06]

All you are doing is choosing an arbitrary standard and the acting as if that is the only one. Why not make it mammals or better yet do something that makes sense like limit the comparison to NFL QBs.

Why would it make sense to limit it to NFL QBs? Are there no other QBs in the world? If you do that, you cannot quantify how much better Manning is than all other QBs. Your standard is just as arbitrary.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Why would it make sense to limit it to NFL QBs? Are there no other QBs in the world? If you do that, you cannot quantify how much better Manning is than all other QBs. Your standard is just as arbitrary.

Of course but it is more comparing like to like. Same league, same position and conventionally it is what is done. You don't compare peewee safeties to college fullbacks.

While both are arbitrary mine has empirical backing and its plain better.

 

[Frozen700]

ROTFLMAO... all you have to is read this post to understand why you might be sensitive to those who criticize the abuse of the English language...

Congratulations on your principled stance, defending the right to be stupid on the internet... I'm sure it's a cause that's close to your heart...

oh I'm sorry english teacher, how dare I

Do forgive me

 

[Frozen700]

Really this thread has run its course, so I hesitate to say this.

But the answer is no. Peyton Manning is not 4 times better than Delhomme or Sorgi.

You wanted it, there it is.

oh....

 

[Frozen700]

In terms of production under equal situations, no. As I said before, no one is. As good as Peyton Manning is, and I consider him to be the best QB who has ever played, he is not 4 times better than anyone. He is simply better.

No one can tell me that he can win 4 times as many games, throw for 4 times as much yardage and TDs on a consistent basis. All it take is for Sorgi to throw for 150 yards and Manning has to throw for 600 to be 4 times as good. In case you were blissfully unaware of it, no one, including Peyton, has ever been able to accomplish that.

So the answer to your rather silly question is no. Just like it was for Ed Reed being 4 times better than Hamlin and Atogwe being every bit as good as Reed since he was also 4 times better. It was nothing but juvenile grousing.

Satisfied?

lol you are amazing....amazingly pathetic

 

[Hostile]

lol you are amazing....amazingly pathetic

I choose to see this as a compliment.