Cowboys D Line rumors from Walter football

[GhostOfPelluer]

Irving has made more big plays than Crawford, but hasn't been as consistent. I like him on a 1-year prove it deal like we basically will have. If he really has turned a corner Dallas will benefit greatly.

I like McClain but he's not consistently healthy. We have too many guys in that boat and it's not like he's Warren Sapp when he is on the field. Another solid piece of a rotation.

I would be weary of signing Leary to a long-term deal. I think we've seen his best football. I'm ok with what we've gotten out of Leary considering he wasn't even drafted.

 

[Vinnie2u]

I don't think he fits in our FA profile. He's a productive player that will be looking to get decent money.

Lower the bar, grasshoppa.

Jerry shops in the clearance rack?

 

[Silverstar]

So, why did we sign Thornton for 18m with 6m guaranteed again?

 

[Ranching]

So, why did we sign Thornton for 18m with 6m guaranteed again?

Stephen allows Jerry a cheat day once in a while. Lol

 

[Stash]

Ron Leary would walk out the door if we offered him more than another team. He feels slighted and wants out. Ron Leary is not a good example for the point you're trying to make.

I don't believe that's the case at all. The man simply wants to get paid, whether it's the Cowboys or somewhere else. It's about finances, not spite.

 

[Stash]

So, why did we sign Thornton for 18m with 6m guaranteed again?

Backup depth apparently.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

It would be a hit to lose McClain. He's not a difference-maker, but he's a reliable player in that rotation if he can just stay healthy.

Not exactly news that Irving will play out his ERFA deal. He'd be dumb not to unless they want to take a chance and overpay him.

Reliable and McClain have been tough to associate together.

Honestly we need a quality DL likely in FA and early in the draft.

 

[Nightman]

Irving has made more big plays than Crawford, but hasn't been as consistent. I like him on a 1-year prove it deal like we basically will have. If he really has turned a corner Dallas will benefit greatly.

I like McClain but he's not consistently healthy. We have too many guys in that boat and it's not like he's Warren Sapp when he is on the field. Another solid piece of a rotation.

I would be weary of signing Leary to a long-term deal. I think we've seen his best football. I'm ok with what we've gotten out of Leary considering he wasn't even drafted.

Irving is on a take it or leave it 640k offer for this year and then a 3m RFA 2nd rd tender offer next year if he maintains...then he would be a UFA in 2019

TMcClain for under 2m is fine....if not draft someone

 

[Echo9]

I don't believe that's the case at all. The man simply wants to get paid, whether it's the Cowboys or somewhere else. It's about finances, not spite.

OK. We can agree to disagree on that. It's not like I can prove it beyond some of his social media hints. Paying Leary and then paying Martin would put an awful lot of cap-space into the O line though. I think Dallas decided that Leary was a short term answer as soon as they brought in Collins, and Crawford's contract really wasn't a factor in that.

For the record, I don't think Crawford has lived up to his contract and that's too bad. I didn'tsee the value at the time either, but figured I was missing the "ittle things" he does that made it worthwhile. In the end, it's something that just hasn't panned out. We only have a few more years on it, so it's not something that can't be worked around. At this point, it' an inconvenience, not a death blow.

 

[LatinMind]

Can't that tag Irving?

cowboys give him the qualifying offer for ERFA and next yr tender him as a RFA. If he earns it he will get his money. But if he cant be the starter then Dallas loses little.

 

[Stash]

OK. We can agree to disagree on that. It's not like I can prove it beyond some of his social media hints. Paying Leary and then paying Martin would put an awful lot of cap-space into the O line though. I think Dallas decided that Leary was a short term answer as soon as they brought in Collins, and Crawford's contract really wasn't a factor in that.

They all come out of the same salary cap pool. One contract inevitably affects another. The more money you spend on one player, the less you have to spend on another.

For the record, I don't think Crawford has lived up to his contract and that's too bad. I didn'tsee the value at the time either, but figured I was missing the "ittle things" he does that made it worthwhile. In the end, it's something that just hasn't panned out. We only have a few more years on it, so it's not something that can't be worked around. At this point, it' an inconvenience, not a death blow.

I see it more seriously than that I guess. Paying a bit, role player $9 million is more than an "inconvenience" in my opinion.

 

[Alexander]

So, why did we sign Thornton for 18m with 6m guaranteed again?

Why did we sign Crawford for an extension for a $10M signing bonus and 2017 base salary ($7.25 million) fully guaranteed on the fifth day of the ’17 league year?

 

[tm1119]

Irving and Crawford are going to make a really strong LDE duo next year

Bring back McClain for cheap, he and Thornton make a solid 1 tech. As others have said, limiting McClain's snaps next year will benefit everyone. A little more Thornton and a little more getting the 1 tech off of the field for Crawford/Irving.

Collins looked promising and should only be better with a healthy camp under his belt.

Mayowa and Tapper should provide good depth at DE.

We just REALLY need to find that starting RDE pass rusher who can demand attention on every pass play. Easier said than done, but that 1 position really would make a world of difference to the entire D.

 

[skinsscalper]

I just wish we could properly address the DE position so that was can keep Crawford at DT. He's a hell of a lot more disruptive from the inside but they keep moving him out to DE due lack of depth. Keep Crawford inside and let him actually earn his money.

 

[Alexander]

Irving and Crawford are going to make a really strong LDE duo next year

Bring back McClain for cheap, he and Thornton make a solid 1 tech. As others have said, limiting McClain's snaps next year will benefit everyone. A little more Thornton and a little more getting the 1 tech off of the field for Crawford/Irving.

Collins looked promising and should only be better with a healthy camp under his belt.

Mayowa and Tapper should provide good depth at DE.

We just REALLY need to find that starting RDE pass rusher who can demand attention on every pass play. Easier said than done, but that 1 position really would make a world of difference to the entire D.

Our DL issues are hardly as simple as you make it seem.

 

[Echo9]

They all come out of the same salary cap pool. One contract inevitably affects another. The more money you spend on one player, the less you have to spend on another.



I see it more seriously than that I guess. Paying a bit, role player $9 million is more than an "inconvenience" in my opinion.

My take on Leary is that Dallas would not pay him even if we had plenty of space. If Crawford was making the vet min, we'd most likely still be letting Leary walk.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Sean plays LB.

I feel ya

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Our DL issues are hardly as simple as you make it seem.

Not when the solution is find a RDE who commands extra attention in every pass play. You can simplify the problem when the solution is incredibly hard to come by.

 

[tm1119]

Our DL issues are hardly as simple as you make it seem.

If by not as simple as I make it seem you mean that it's really hard to find a good RDE picking 28th and with limited cap funds, I agree with you. The rest is pretty cut and dry in my opinion...

There's still a lot of overreaction to a playoff loss here in my opinion. We went from having a D that was top 10 in scoring allowed and helped us cruise to 13-3 to being awful because we lost to Rodgers in the playoffs. There's no arguing that the D needs to continue to improve, but it's not the dumpster fire everyone is making it out to be either.

 

[Stash]

My take on Leary is that Dallas would not pay him even if we had plenty of space. If Crawford was making the vet min, we'd most likely still be letting Leary walk.

That's as good an opinion as any, no way to prove it either way.