Cowboys DE Greg Hardy's appeal hearing concludes

[ABQCOWBOY]

I've seen enough. A judge seen enough and the nfl seen enough. Others obvious haven't.

Interesting. So would it be fair to say that the DA did not see enough because they did not prosecute?

 

[iceberg]

Neither was oj but most can agree he was guilty

and? so every single person not found guilty is?

i don't give a flying mouse fart in a typhoon who else you can pull out of your wa-ha-ha, but because "most" agree he was guilty is hardly a basis for saying everyone not found guilty well, they really are if some arsenugget who has no clue as to what happened FEELS he is doesn't work for me.

and OJ was also later found guilty in another court, now wasn't he?

oh, and hardy NEVER EVEN GOT A JURY TRIAL BECAUSE SHE WENT POOF.

your wonderful analogy, quite honestly, sucks.

 

[iceberg]

True. Everyone has difference of opionons on the evidence. No different than a jury does. I think he did it. Others don't.

again, he never had the benefit of a jury cause she failed to show. your knowledge of this case is quite frightening for someone who's passing judgement all around.

 

[Little Jr]

and? so every single person not found guilty is?

i don't give a flying mouse fart in a typhoon who else you can pull out of your wa-ha-ha, but because "most" agree he was guilty is hardly a basis for saying everyone not found guilty well, they really are if some arsenugget who has no clue as to what happened FEELS he is doesn't work for me.

and OJ was also later found guilty in another court, now wasn't he?

oh, and hardy NEVER EVEN GOT A JURY TRIAL BECAUSE SHE WENT POOF.

your wonderful analogy, quite honestly, sucks.

Yes he was found guilty in a cival trial. Again Jmo and you have yours.

 

[Little Jr]

again, he never had the benefit of a jury cause she failed to show. your knowledge of this case is quite frightening for someone who's passing judgement all around.

And anyone who thinks he's innocent is quite naive imo.

 

[Little Jr]

Interesting. So would it be fair to say that the DA did not see enough because they did not prosecute?

Sometimes the best evidence is the victim. If she doesnt cooperate then his case might not be string enough. It happens. Da don't like to lose lol

 

[xwalker]

Sometimes the best evidence is the victim. If she doesnt cooperate then his case might not be string enough. It happens. Da don't like to lose lol

I studied that case before he even signed with the Cowboys.

I'm convinced that she planned to get him in trouble. There are many reasons I believe this, but 2 things stand out. One is that she told her friend "he ain't seen crazy yet". The second is that on the 911 call that Hardy made it sounded as if she was chasing him around and she could be heard screaming "Just break my arm".

He might or might not have hit her, but I'm certain she was trying to set him up because he was breaking up with her and she wanted money out of it.

 

[cowboyvic]

Henderson will up hold the10 games. and so will any court in my opinion. Greg Hardy is getting 10 games. and he is getting them because the mob demands it. and because he is a Dallas Cowboy. all those overturns you have seen with Rice and Peterson and others,stop with Hardy.the guy already has not been allowed to play for 17 games. and with these 10 games it will be 27 games. that is flat out unreal.

 

[Little Jr]

I studied that case before he even signed with the Cowboys.

I'm convinced that she planned to get him in trouble. There are many reasons I believe this, but 2 things stand out. One is that she told her friend "he ain't seen crazy yet". The second is that on the 911 call that Hardy made it sounded as if she was chasing him around and she could be heard screaming "Just break my arm".

He might or might not have hit her, but I'm certain she was trying to set him up because he was breaking up with her and she wanted money out of it.

We all have our opinions on it.

 

[xwalker]

We all have our opinions on it.

We all have our opinions on it.

Yes, unfortunately in America everyone is entitled to an opinion. In my view of utopia, only people with an above average IQ would be allowed to express their opinion.

 

[xwalker]

We all have our opinions on it.

FYI, I was not directing that comment at you. I'm sure you're in the upper half of the population.

 

[Beast_from_East]

The big difference between OJ and Hardy is that OJ had a trial, evidence was presented by both sides, and a jury made their decision................most people that watched the trial think the evidence showed OJ was guilty, but he got off by the jury.

Hardy on the other hand, was never given a trial, was never allowed to put evidence of his own on display, and it never made it to a jury because the DA decided to drop the chargers instead of prosecute.

Now I did watch the OJ trial and I did see the evidence presented by both sides, so I am fairly confident that OJ was guilty (and a civil jury found him guilty later on)............I have not see the evidence in the Hardy case, just media reports and such so I cannot make an intelligent decision about his guilt or innocence. All we know for sure is that an altercation happened that night and its basically a "he said, she said" issue with no physical proof of what happened. The DA decided not to prosecute after the woman disappeared and that was the end of the story. Anything beyond this is just pure speculation.

 

[Little Jr]

FYI, I was not directing that comment at you. I'm sure you're in the upper half of the population.

It's cool. Lol I'm just ready for it to end and the season start lol

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The bench trial judge never heard the argument about the contradiction in Holder's story under oath and what she told police the night of the incident. She isn't a credible witness and all you are left with are conspiracy theories fueled by throwaway hearsay from the NC DA from their dismissal paperwork. When you cannot prove the one crime then pseudo-accuse him of another one!

Then people use notions like belief and opinion to try and will it to be shown true. All too human.

 

[cml750]

I studied that case before he even signed with the Cowboys.

I'm convinced that she planned to get him in trouble. There are many reasons I believe this, but 2 things stand out. One is that she told her friend "he ain't seen crazy yet". The second is that on the 911 call that Hardy made it sounded as if she was chasing him around and she could be heard screaming "Just break my arm".

He might or might not have hit her, but I'm certain she was trying to set him up because he was breaking up with her and she wanted money out of it.

Interesting! I have not heard this. I apologize for not being 100% informed as I was on all things Cowboys related in my youth but between my job and keeping up supporting my 18 year old daughter who is graduating next week and who is involved with literally EVERYTHING, I do not have the time to devote to my favorite sports team that I used to when I was younger. My job and daughter take up 75+% of my time. Another 15% I am in a vegetative state recuperating . So that leaves 10% or less to keep up with my sports teams. Heck, I even have had to watch some games by DVR lately because I was supporting my daughter in soccer, golf, academics, etc.... That being said, I have not had time to read all the way through the longer Hardy threads so I had not seen this. My Christian, conservative upbringing leads me to not believe everything I hear in the media and to research it myself but I just had not had time. I am not so much a Cowboys homer that I want a guy who is guilty of what some say Hardy did on the team but I also know that what is said and reported does not always equal the truth. That being said, post like yours help me realize that what I may hear does not equal what actually happened.Thank you!! Please post more on this if you see something.

 

[Nightman]

Interesting! I have not heard this. I apologize for not being 100% informed as I was on all things Cowboys related in my youth but between my job and keeping up supporting my 18 year old daughter who is graduating next week and who is involved with literally EVERYTHING, I do not have the time to devote to my favorite sports team that I used to when I was younger. My job and daughter take up 75+% of my time. Another 15% I am in a vegetative state recuperating . So that leaves 10% or less to keep up with my sports teams. Heck, I even have had to watch some games by DVR lately because I was supporting my daughter in soccer, golf, academics, etc.... That being said, I have not had time to read all the way through the longer Hardy threads so I had not seen this. My Christian, conservative upbringing leads me to not believe everything I hear in the media and to research it myself but I just had not had time. I am not so much a Cowboys homer that I want a guy who is guilty of what some say Hardy did on the team but I also know that what is said and reported does not always equal the truth. That being said, post like yours help me realize that what I may hear does not equal what actually happened.Thank you!! Please post more on this if you see something.

There was an incident earlier in the week at the restaurant where Holder worked. She reportedly told a friend "he was still going to pay my rent" even though they had been arguing and breaking up. When he tried to leave she had to be retrained and kicked his tire as he drove off. That is where the " I broke a toenail" quote came from. A few days later they ended up in bed after a night of partying and the rest is he said , she said.

 

[cml750]

There was an incident earlier in the week at the restaurant where Holder worked. She reportedly told a friend "he was still going to pay my rent" even though they had been arguing and breaking up. When he tried to leave she had to be retrained and kicked his tire as he drove off. That is where the " I broke a toenail" quote came from. A few days later they ended up in bed after a night of partying and the rest is he said , she said.

Interesting!

 

[iceberg]

And anyone who thinks he's innocent is quite naive imo.

And anyone who puts their opinions above the law, quite foolosh, imo.

 

[AsthmaField]

Yes, unfortunately in America everyone is entitled to an opinion. In my view of utopia, only people with an above average IQ would be allowed to express their opinion.

Yeah, we can wish...

That would indeed be Utopia.

Unfortunately, anyone with vocal cords can spout off about whatever flits through their mind.

 

[AsthmaField]

Interesting. So would it be fair to say that the DA did not see enough because they did not prosecute?

The DA dropped the case because he couldn't locate the plaintiff. However, he routinely prosecutes without the plaintiff, so there had to be something else.

In this case, the prosecutor did not want to put his reputation on the line by entering Ms. Holders testimony... because the testimony that she told him and the Judge at the bench trial was completely different than what she told the police on the night of the incident. He had no case because he had no idea about the truth of what went on that night... because Ms. Holder has two completely different versions of what went down.

He would have gone ahead and prosecuted if the plaintiff would have been there because he would have nothing to lose with Holder perjuring herself on the stand. When he had to put his reputation on the line and vouch for Holder... he said thanks but no thanks.

Of course, in public he insinuates that Holder being paid off and leaving is why he isn't going forward... it is the best way for him to save face.