Cowboys' defense could use some "Law" and order

[Charles]

i see charles does'nt have anything to say about chad never even playing deanglo before.

Oh I get it...........you have to play against a guy to know whether or not he's the best.

Next time Troy Aikman makes a statement about a player being one the best during his color analysis with Fox........................

The statement didn't warrant a reply IMHO.

Get real.

 

[stilltheguru]

dude I LIVE IN ATLANTA.

watch damn near every falcon game.I am telling you without any bias that deanglo hall is not better than newman AT ALL.


hes good but hes more talk than anything.and again WHEN DID CHAD EVEN SAY THIS?


cause i do remember him saying that champ was the best in the league on nfl network.i have never heard him say that about deanglo.

 

[superpunk]

Oh I get it...........you have to play against a guy to know whether or not he's the best.

Next time Troy Aikman makes a statement about a player being one the best during his color analysis with Fox........................

The statement didn't warrant a reply IMHO.

Get real.

Yep I'll chose Johnson's opinion over numbers on a paper. He actually lines up against these guys...........shocking isn't it?

 

[Charles]

dude I LIVE IN ATLANTA.

watch damn near every falcon game.I am telling you without any bias that deanglo hall is not better than newman AT ALL.


hes good but hes more talk than anything.and again WHEN DID CHAD EVEN SAY THIS?


cause i do remember him saying that champ was the best in the league on nfl network.i have never heard him say that about deanglo.

Chad Johnson said it on Sportcenter last week, duirng an interview after the NFL ruling banning certain TD celebration. He hoped for a Monday Night match-up against DeAngelo Hall.

I don't have to live in Atlanta to watch Falcon games. Direct TV is awesome, plus there enough sportbars in the DC/MD/VA area carrying every game in HDTV.

I think Hall is a very good CB and after hearing Johnson's statement I think he is one of the best if thet best. Johnson opinion like that of Irvin during the 90s about CB carries more weight than some stat pushing, tape watching interns. There job is to sell rags to the fans, Chad Johnson job is to study defenses...............and quite frankly he's proven to be one of the best.

 

[stilltheguru]

*watches how we throw right at hall when we play the falcons this year*


TO is gonna destroy that lame.

 

[iceberg]

oh that's gonna leave a mark...

 

[Charles]

What is so confusing? He does line-up against CBs. He studies team game film to become a better WR and not to sell stats.

Just because he hasn't lined up against DeAngelo Hall specifically doesn't mean he can't have an opinion.

 

[Charles]

*watches how we throw right at hall when we play the falcons this year*


TO is gonna destroy that lame.

TO destroys every secondary he faces, so what your point?

 

[stilltheguru]

well like i said i saw steve smith clown the guy last year


TO drop 100 yards plus on the guy

darrell jackson 100 plus yards on the guy

d branch 100 plus yards on the guy


do i need to go on?

 

[Charles]

oh that's gonna leave a mark...

May I ask why?

 

[stilltheguru]

last year?first game of the year?did nothing against dallas?

oh ok

newman was on a mission last year and things wont change next year.newman=number 1 cb in the nfl PERIOD.

 

[superpunk]

What is so confusing? He does line-up against CBs. He studies team game film to become a better WR and not to sell stats.

Just because he hasn't lined up against DeAngelo Hall specifically doesn't mean he can have an opinion.

What's confusing is that earlier in the thread, you claim you trust Johnson's judgement more because "He actually lines up against these guys" (and don't you try to claim you were just talking about CBs in general - some of us are paying attention). Then, when it is revealed that Johnson has not, in fact, lined up against "these guys", it becomes "you don't have to play against a guy to know he's the best."

Not sure which one it is....prolly whichever one suits your point at the moment.

 

[Charles]

well like i said i saw steve smith clown the guy last year


TO drop 100 yards plus on the guy

darrell jackson 100 plus yards on the guy

d branch 100 plus yards on the guy


do i need to go on?

Keep going. It doesn't really make that much of a difference.

Chad Johnson an ALL Pro Wr with 3 straight Pro Bowl appearances thinks he's the best.

You.............an Atlanta native that watches ALL the games and has a copy of SI thinks some else is the best.

I arrest my case

 

[stilltheguru]

well chad can say that all the while hall is getting burned weekly.OK?

 

[Charles]

What's confusing is that earlier in the thread, you claim you trust Johnson's judgement more because "He actually lines up against these guys" (and don't you try to claim you were just talking about CBs in general - some of us are paying attention). Then, when it is revealed that Johnson has not, in fact, lined up against "these guys", it becomes "you don't have to play against a guy to know he's the best."

Not sure which one it is....prolly whichever one suits your point at the moment.

Yes I made that statement in reply to:

So lets get this right. Newman gives up less yards per game, less TDs, less penalties. than Robinson, yet you choose Robinson based on the quote of one WR instead of using facts? wow

He meant Hall instead of Robinson. I replied that I'd take Johnson's opinion over a bunch pushers because he lines up against these guys.............

You might be paying attention, but all that tells me is that your comprehension skills are lacking.

 

[superpunk]

Cowboys/Falcons common opponents -


Eagles
Seattle
Detroit
Carolina

Player--------------REC--------------Yds--------------TDs

Terrell Owens
Cowboys-----------5-----------------50----------------0
Falcons------------7-----------------112---------------0

Darrell Jackson - substitute Jurevicius
Cowboys(DNP)-----6------------------54---------------0
Falcons------------8-----------------131---------------0

Roy Williams
Cowboys-----------5----------------72-----------------0
Falcons------------3-----------------55----------------1

Steve Smith
Cowboys---------1------------------18-----------------0 (not even against Newman)
Falcons (2)-------7------------------65-----------------1

Totals, common #1 receiver?

Cowboys - 17 rec 194 yds (11.4 ypr) 0 TDs
Falcons - 25 rec 363 yds (14.5 ypr) 2 TDs





God speed DeAngelo....

 

[Charles]

last year?first game of the year?did nothing against dallas?

oh ok

newman was on a mission last year and things wont change next year.newman=number 1 cb in the nfl PERIOD.

I can respect your opinion (shocking isn't it), but I'd suggest you take your homer glasses off because Deion Sanders in his Prime is the definition of the best CB in the league, while Newman is a very good CB he doesn't make game changing plays that are to be expected from a 5th overall pick in the draft and he hasn't made a Pro Bowl yet................

 

[superpunk]

Yes I made that statement in reply to:



He meant Hall instead of Robinson. I replied that I'd take Johnson's opinion over a bunch pushers because he lines up against these guys.............

You might be paying attention, but all that tells me is that your comprehension skills are lacking.

And yet, the fact remains, Chad Johnson hasn't lined up against Hall. Neither did Chad line up against Newman THIS YEAR, which was what Dr. Z's quote was evaluating. So, in essence, you're taking the word of a player that hasn't lined up against either CB, over a guy who has watched tons of film. By all accounts players see less of their peers than you, I, or Dr. Z, lest you forget, they're actually playing in the games on sunday. I remember an interview once that said that the average NFL player, when voting for the pro-bowl, has about as much insight as the average fan, because if they're not breaking down game film, they don't really see other players. All they have to go on is the same media coverage each of us gets. So, they vote for the names they hear. Maybe it was Parcells that said that, I can't remember.

I comprehended just fine, yet you still fail to make any sense.

 

[Charles]

Cowboys/Falcons common opponents -


Eagles
Seattle
Detroit
Carolina

Player--------------REC--------------Yds--------------TDs

Terrell Owens
Cowboys-----------5-----------------50----------------0
Falcons------------7-----------------112---------------0

Darrell Jackson - substitute Jurevicius
Cowboys(DNP)-----6------------------54---------------0
Falcons------------8-----------------131---------------0

Roy Williams
Cowboys-----------5----------------72-----------------0
Falcons------------3-----------------55----------------1

Steve Smith
Cowboys---------1------------------18-----------------0 (not even against Newman)
Falcons (2)-------7------------------65-----------------1

Totals, common #1 receiver?

Cowboys - 17 rec 194 yds (11.4 ypr) 0 TDs
Falcons - 25 rec 363 yds (14.5 ypr) 2 TDs





God speed DeAngelo....

You must not be watching Cowboy games living in Atlanta (makes me understand why you live by stats) because Newman didn't cover all those WRs on every play, Infact Anthony Henry (only CB in play at an elite level for Dallas in the past 5 seasons) might look this chart and laugh.

 

[superpunk]

You must not be watching Cowboy games living in Atlanta (makes me understand why you live by stats) because Newman didn't cover all those WRs on every play, Infact Anthony Henry (only CB in play at an elite level for Dallas in the past 5 seasons) might look this chart and laugh.

Check the thread. I don't live in Atlanta.And it doesn't matter if Newman was the one matched up against those receivers on every play. Except for Smith(who Newman was locked up almost exclusively with - only a few plays off him), every receiver listed was the team's leading receiver against the Cowboys. If Newman wasn't covering them, then he was doing an even BETTER job against the other receivers.

I pay for the Sunday Ticket. I saw every snap, of every game last year. Reading comprehension....