Cowboys defensive rankings during Super Bowl years

[eromeopolk]

1971 they were 7th
1977 they were 8th
1992 they were 5th
1993 they were 2nd
1995 they were 3rd

Hopefully this will shut the Dak haters up but it won't. Can't wait to see the excuses coming.

I am 100% sure the Cowboys finished with the no.1 defense in 1977, 1992, 1992, and 2003. I think you mean points allowed.

But I understand your point. No one has scored their way to an NFL Championship.

Running wins games, passing scores points, and defense wins championships

 

[Flamma]

Dallas defensive rankings by year:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/

2016 - #5
2017 - #13
2018 - #6
2019 - #11
2020 - #28

So Dak had a top 5 and a top 10 defense in two seasons, and a top 15 defense twice. The only year he had a god-awful defense was in 2020.

SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHY DAK KEEPS GETTING THE POOR DEFENSE EXCUSE WHEN HIS DEFENSE WAS BAD ONLY 1 SEASON..........

Sometimes statistics can be misleading. That 2016 team's defense was barely average at best. They gave up few points because the offense controlled the ball a lot. They were 14th in yards allowed. The last time Dallas had a really good D was 2003. Just no quarterback.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Sorry didn’t see this post when I did mine, funny somehow one bad year means all the D’s were bad, just wait these stats don’t mean anything because what does pro football reference know they saw the games and those Defenses stunk and Dak had to overcome then.

Some have convinced themselves that the 2020 defense has been the defense since 2016.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Sometimes statistics can be misleading. That 2016 team's defense was barely average at best. They gave up few points because the offense controlled the ball a lot. They were 14th in yards allowed. The last time Dallas had a really good D was 2003. Just no quarterback.

EXACTLY...........Using the yards barometer ONLY for defense is weak and only used by agenda pushers.

 

[acr731]

You missed the narrative completely actually. The conversation I have with non trolls are typically educated and informative. I wouldn't expect someone like you to understand. And no I wont waste my time explaining it to you.

 

[Diehardblues]

So now we're going to try and change the narrative from bad defenses to lack of turnovers? I guess next we'll turn to stuff like the turf at Jerry world not being totally flat. Or maybe it was too wet and muddy.

I think the bigger issue is we haven’t had good enough defenses most years.

Now if we have a #1 offense for the season then an average to above average defense could be enough.

In Cap era , history has shown you need to be great on one side of the ball and average to above average on the other with few exceptions.

This era over the last couple decades we haven’t had an Elite QB or defense.

 

[USArmyVet]

1971 they were 7th
1977 they were 8th
1992 they were 5th
1993 they were 2nd
1995 they were 3rd

Hopefully this will shut the Dak haters up but it won't. Can't wait to see the excuses coming.

So yet again instead of making a thread that emphasizes the importance of defensive upgrades for Dallas to be more successful you use it as an unveiled negative tirade to attack supposed "Dak haters", those individuals that simply question Dak by using supportive statistics and facts.....and who apparently reside in your brain all hours of the day.

 

[acr731]

EXACTLY...........Using the yards barometer ONLY for defense is weak and only used by agenda pushers.

Yet what is it the Dak homers try to stuff down everyone's throats every day? Stats?

 

[Diehardblues]

EXACTLY...........Using the yards barometer ONLY for defense is weak and only used by agenda pushers.

Its the official measurement for the NFL. Always has been including all of the great defenses in Cowboys and NFL history.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

So yet again instead of making a thread that emphasizes the importance of defensive upgrades for Dallas to be more successful you use it as an unveiled negative tirade to attack supposed "Dak haters", those individuals that simply question Dak by using supportive statistics and facts.....and who apparently reside in your brain all hours of the day.

He's clearly doing it on purpose at this point. Is it immature, annoying, and very childish behavior? Yeah of course it is, but do you really expect anything more?

My advice? Play along and don't let it get to ya.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Yet what is it the Dak homers try to stuff down everyone's throats every day? Stats?

Ouch. They will def. either ignore this one or change the narrative. Tune in to find out!

 

[Flamma]

EXACTLY...........Using the yards barometer ONLY for defense is weak and only used by agenda pushers.

What do they actually use in the NFL to rank defenses? They should probably use a combo between points allowed and yards allowed. Even then it's not an exact science. Teams slip through the cracks and either look better or worse than they actually are.

The 2014 team reminded me a lot of the 2016 team with ball control. Same defense only they were ranked worse. More realistically.

 

[Cowpolk]

Yet what is it the Dak homers try to stuff down everyone's throats every day? Stats?

Just about everything is a stat

 

[Diehardblues]

Yar

What do they actually use in the NFL to rank defenses? They should probably use a combo between points allowed and yards allowed. Even then it's not an exact science. Teams slip through the cracks and either look better or worse than they actually are.

The 2014 team reminded me a lot of the 2016 team with ball control. Same defense only they were ranked worse. More realistically.

Yards have always been the official measurement .

 

[acr731]

Its the official measurement for the NFL. Always has been including all of the great defenses in Cowboys and NFL history.

Stats don't always tell the real story on offense either. For example, lets say a receiver catches a 2 yard pass from Dak and runs for 75 yards. Dak will get credit for a 75 yard pass, not just the 2 yards he initially tossed the ball. I'm not saying thats wrong, but it doesn't exactly reflect the true passing yards.

If they were to do it correctly it would be 2 yards for Dak and 73 yards YAC for the receiver. But that isn't how the passing yards are tallied.

 

[Diehardblues]

@kskboys

I’ll ask my most valued expertise football X and O guy on why total yards is used for official rankings. He’s explained it before. Easier than looking it up.

 

[DandyDon1722]

It’s not so much overall defense but specifically Defensive Pass Rating. That and Points Per Drive are the two consistent predictors of good teams. There are always outliers but not often.

DPR is so spot on because you can get away with things during the regular season but in the playoffs you come up against the best QB’s so your defense can easily be exposed with a bad to average secondary.

If you look at the 90’s team they faced mostly Favre, Young and Kelly in the playoffs, all HOFer’s in order to win a SB. It’s obvious our pass defense was pretty good.

I’m sure Dak’s PPD is really good as was Romo’s for most of his career but it always gets back to the secondary. Without looking it up it has been average to poor around here for a long time.

 

[Diehardblues]

Stats don't always tell the real story on offense either. For example, lets say a receiver catches a 2 yard pass from Dak and runs for 75 yards. Dak will get credit for a 75 yard pass, not just the 2 yards he initially tossed the ball. I'm not saying thats wrong, but it doesn't exactly reflect the true passing yards.

If they were to do it correctly it would be 2 yards for Dak and 73 yards YAC for the receiver. But that isn't how the passing yards are tallied.

I agree with some of that as far as after the catch, etc. But on defense whoever is credited with those yards doesn’t matter .

Hopefully K will check in and respond. He was on another thread earlier today.

But there’s a valid and reasonable reason the NFL uses total yards. It has to do with possessions and how many yards because it relates to more opportunity’s to score the more yards and possessions and third downs you convert getting those yards.

 

[Diehardblues]

Sometimes statistics can be misleading. That 2016 team's defense was barely average at best. They gave up few points because the offense controlled the ball a lot. They were 14th in yards allowed. The last time Dallas had a really good D was 2003. Just no quarterback.

That was our best defense this era. #1 I believe that year. Good enough to carry Quincy to the playoffs. Greatest coaching job Bill had here.

I wanna say we had one top 10 defense with Wade. Think it was 2009. But none since.

 

[Rockport]

These threads are just as bad calling haters out inciting a response. Homers can be trolls too.

There’s just a lot of haters here who dominate anything positive trying to disprove it.