Cowboys got lucky by not drafting Paxton Lynch

[yimyammer]

That is correct. If I’m not mistaken, Jerry almost traded to get him.

Jerry Jones didn’t sleep well Thursday night.

The Dallas Cowboys owner couldn’t get over missing out on a possible trade back into the first round for Memphis quarterback Paxton Lynch. After the draft, Jones lamented that he didn’t overpay Seattle for the 26th overall pick that ultimately went to Denver.

“When I look back on my life, I overpaid for my big successes every time,” Jones said. “And when I tried to get a bargain, get it a little cheaper or get a better deal on it, I ended up usually either getting it and not happy I got it. Or missing it.

“And I probably should have overpaid here.”

Jones didn’t get to bed until about 3 a.m. that night and woke up at 6 a.m. He said before the morning was over, he had talked with six people about how he screwed it up.

“I was still mad about it,” Jones said. “Actually thought we had it done.”

which begs the question....what makes a better GM?

Jethro?

or

or

 

[kevm3]

A lot of people here wanted Lynch and didn't want dak, so can't really fault jerry too much

 

[CouchCoach]

A lot of people here wanted Lynch and didn't want dak, so can't really fault jerry too much

Lynch was considered first round talent and if he busts, he will certainly not be the first. I do not fault Booger except he already had a QB1 and giving up a 2nd and 3rd for a backup, at best, would have been the mistake.

They took Prescott exactly where the scouts had him without giving up additional picks.

 

[JustChip]

Poor Elway. Just goes to show why they say " those that can DO, those that can't TEACH". (come on down Mr. Moore!!!)

I thought it was "those that can DO, those that can't post on Cowboys Zone".

 

[Techsass]

I thought it was "those that can DO, those that can't post on Cowboys Zone".

Well yeah, that too.

 

[Beaker42]

Please refresh my memory Weren't the cowboys looking to draft Lynch until the Broncos jumped ahead of them. From what I've seen tonight & last year. Thank you John Elway.

We also lucked out by not drafting Gavin Escobar w/ a 2nd rnd pick ...... wait, um, ......hmmm. Or by not drafting Steven Jackson.

This is a pointless thread.

 

[cern]

What on earth could make you think that? Do you think McClay actually makes any final decisions?

In 2016 jerry said unequivocally that when romo was cleared to play he would be the starter once again. From Jerry's lips to god's ear. But dak remained the starter. Earlier this year after Stephen said dez was a distraction to be dealt with, jerry said unequivocally dez would be a cowboy in 2018. But dez was outright released. Probably the 2 most important fo decisions and both went against Jerry's proclamations. That should be an obvious clue someone else is making those decisions. Stephen. And he listens to mcclay.

 

[FineFan]

I know right! Jerry really wanted the Pax so bad! Can you imagine how lucky we are to have taken Dak instead.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

In 2016 jerry said unequivocally that when romo was cleared to play he would be the starter once again. From Jerry's lips to god's ear. But dak remained the starter. Earlier this year after Stephen said dez was a distraction to be dealt with, jerry said unequivocally dez would be a cowboy in 2018. But dez was outright released. Probably the 2 most important fo decisions and both went against Jerry's proclamations. That should be an obvious clue someone else is making those decisions. Stephen. And he listens to mcclay.

Jerry also said T.O. wasn't going anywhere and Wade wasn't getting fired . I guess Jerry lost control of the team way back then. Jerry just likes to talk.

 

[HungryLion]

Is it any surprise that Jerry wanted to draft the wrong QB?

We’re also lucky to have Zack Martin rather than Johnny Manziel.

 

[CATCH17]

I wasn't a fan.

Wentz >

Cowboys should come to me for QB advice. I'd love to know if they have Lynch higher rated then Wentz.

 

[Risen Star]

A lot of people here wanted Lynch and didn't want dak, so can't really fault jerry too much

LOL. I love this mindset. Hey, a lot of people would have done it so can't fault the guy in charge responsible for the decisions.

No, actually you can. His job isn't to make the popular decisions but the right ones. Anybody can take a poll. That doesn't take skill.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

LOL. I love this mindset. Hey, a lot of people would have done it so can't fault the guy in charge responsible for the decisions.

No, actually you can. His job isn't to make the popular decisions but the right ones. Anybody can take a poll. That doesn't take skill.

LOL...So dallas would not give up the third round pick and missed out on the player and people are blaming Dallas for almost trading to get him since he turned out to be a bum.

However I am willing to guarantee you that if he turned out to be a good player, the same people blaming him for ALMOST making a terrible trade, would rake him over the coals for NOT making the trade and giving up the three.

Some people want it both ways so they can be sure to be able to complain about it.

Some people are like old bitter women who love nothing more than to whine and complain about everything in life.

It's always funny how some are willing to say you do whatever it takes to get a franchise QB...unless a player that some viewed as a Franchise player turns out to be a bum...then it was a pick nobody should make or trade for.
Damned if you do Damned if you don't.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Don't know how he was this offseason.

But last off season there were some reports out that he did not take the job as serious as most QBs do.

You often hear about some QBs that a team considers a Franchise Player will come in well before the mandated training camp time and stay over well after practice is over.

You see some QBs coming in at 4-5 am and studying film, asking coaches questions, throwing balls, asking other players to come in so they can get some timing down with them.
After the others are going home they stay over and practice throwing some more, ask other players to stay over to get timing down, do film work or ask coaches questions.

The definition of a gym rat, someone who puts everything in, who works harder than others without being told to do so...because they want to do well. The first one there in the morning and the last one to leave.

Word is that Paxton Lynch was NOT that way at all.

He would come in when it was time to practice and he would leave when practice was over.

Again...Don't know if he changed that THIS off season, but that was some of the criticism going around last year when they gave him a legit chance to become the starter.


Funny thing is, he was considered a mid to late first rounder or high second rounder by most publications prior to the draft. Even given that most will elevate many QBs higher than they should.

So Most teams would view him at that level. And just like many years in the draft, some QBs live up to that and some do not.

So many have been picked in the top 10 over all and have not panned out.
Some later have panned out.

Just never know with QBs.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

On Lynch he tried but just got outbidded " thank God" and son talked sense into him about money. He thought Quincy was the man but the rooster finally came home to roost on that pick. I'm sleep now!

Which means he wasn't willing to overpay. That's...good. Right?

Lynch hasn't worked out but he went in the range of his draft stock.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Disagree.

He was not a consensus 1st round QB. If you think so, you didn't read a whole lot of what scouts were saying about him!!!!

His skillset/deameanor/refusal to study and some other factors point to the mid rounds. Maybe you're listening too much to the spewing heads on TV?

I don't think the word consensus means what you think it does.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

In fact, right up until the draft it was still a question of if he would be the first overall pick in the draft.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...ll-considering-johnny-manziel-with-first-pick

Yup. No idea how people can turn around and pretend he somehow was not considered a first round talent. Really shows bias and lack of the ability to be objective.

 

[Prime21]

So sick of hearing about this. This stuff happens to every team. Also Lynch might be better behind our OLine with Zeke in the backfield.

We did not luck into Dak. We did our homework and invested incredible time and effort into scouting Dak, more so that probably every other team.

Our scouting has been fantastic for years now. Finally after always getting shafted in trades we are demanding better value. We are reaping the benefits and doing well because we deserve to be doing well.

This is who we are. Scout well. Get your core players in the draft. Value trades and value FAs to fill out the roster. This is how great organizations are run. If Dak proves this year that he is the guy then we open up a decade long championship window.

This is not luck.

 

[kskboys]

I don't think the word consensus means what you think it does.

Sure. It means an opinion held by all or most. I would say possibly a lot thought he was, but IMO it was short of being a consensus opinion. I heard and read way too many people in the negative about him to think it was consensus.

 

[atlantacowboy]

A lot of people here wanted Lynch and didn't want dak, so can't really fault jerry too much

Oh common, nobody even mentioned Dak on here prior to the draft. There were no "lets draft dak prescott" threads. People were comparing him to Tebow since they ran basically the same college offense. Lynch was the higher rated prospect and really.........what else is there to go on? Jerry lucked out big time and his laments about missing out on Lynch are well documented. So, you can't make the argument that Jerry preferred Dak.

All this proves is that sometimes its better to be lucky than good. Once in a while, the blind squirrel will find an acorn.