Cowboys Have Extended Orlando Scandrick... 5 Years/$27M

[TellerMorrow34]

Well this is certainly unexpected. I figured they'd wait till the offseason but maybe his improved play last year, after Garrett took over, and his training camp work thus far have convinced them that they want to keep him around for a few years.

 

[YosemiteSam]

This is the truth. Jerry cannot manage the cap properly - here he overpaid.

How?

By not re-signing Free in the middle of last year when he had proved he could handle the LT slot, he ended up paying more than he needed to.

He couldn't. The CBA was going away and he knew he the Cowboys were already going to be over the new cap. He had no idea what that number was going to be. It would have been an extremely risky thing to do when walking blindly into a new CBA. Besides, Free is well worth what they paid him. I think he is worth more.

He similarly overpaid Bigg, RoyW (also overpaid in picks for an upcoming FA), Flo (too old) and TNew (too old to give than long of a deal to).

No defending this.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Joseph is averaging $10 mill per year and he was the 2nd best corner for Cincy.

Is Joseph twice the corner that Scandrick is?

No.

 

[Kangaroo]

1 playoff win in 16 years will lead to that.

In other wards over reaction over analysis once again. They act like this team has only made the playoffs once in 16 years

What was it when half these people on the board where all over the Eagles jock strap when they kept losing in the playoffs and saying if Dallas could do just that I be happy. Then that happens and the complain about losing in the playoffs now.

I also find it funny that alot of these people after the rookie year where all over Oscan because he played well. His second year he struggled and correct some things and played solid down the stretch. Last year the entire defense was a disaster and funny when Garrett took over his play was better. Just maybe maybe good pratice habits help out young players.

Typical fan reaction the guys contract is small and after a couple years easy to cut with no real impact on the salary cap. Yet because the guy is not an all Pro this signing sucks blah blah

This would also be the same people that went on and on how Free sucked because he never saw the field his first couple years he had to suck.

So forgive me if I think this signing is a solid move no where have I said on my god Superbowl we just re-upped Nami in the remake. See that is the problem sometimes we can have no inbetween

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I have a tough time degrading Scandrick based on last year's numbers.


Hey, it's like this, the defense sucked period. If you went by the numbers alone, 10 guys out of the starting 12 probably shouldn't be starters, but that's not how it works.

I think many of the players on defense get a "mulligan" for last season due to several factors, i.e. Wade Phillips and his soft training camp.

Let's see what this year begets... especially the last half of the season.

 

[Eskimo]

How?



He couldn't. The CBA was going away and he knew he the Cowboys were already going to be over the new cap. He had no idea what that number was going to be. It would have been an extremely risky thing to do when walking blindly into a new CBA. Besides, Free is well worth what they paid him. I think he is worth more.

He definitely could have signed Free during the season but it would have required a bit of faith that the CBA wasn't going to be substantially cut. Starting from the premise of no more than a 10% decline of the cap from 2009 he could have figured out a fair price for Free.

IMO, he gambled that we would have the status quo and he could pay Free just the tender and get him for another season at 1.8M - this is a gamble that he lost. You could make the same argument for Bowen. This is cap mismanagement.

I also agree that Free's salary is fair at present. I am just arguing that he could have paid much less if he had been a bit more aggressive here.

 

[Eskimo]

I have a tough time degrading Scandrick based on last year's numbers.


Hey, it's like this, the defense sucked period. If you went by the numbers alone, 10 guys out of the starting 12 probably shouldn't be starters, but that's not how it works.

I think many of the players on defense get a "mulligan" for last season due to several factors, i.e. Wade Phillips and his soft training camp.

Let's see what this year begets... especially the last half of the season.

You could make that argument for 2010 season but how about Scandrick's poor play in 2009?

He isn't a starting quality CB. CB isn't a position that you magically figure out in your 4th season. He doesn't have ball skills or the closing burst you need to be a top corner. He also doesn't fit Ryan's aggressive scheme. He is a better fit for a Cover 2 scheme since he is a good tackler.

 

[Doomsday101]

Bit skeptical on this. I think Scandrick is a decent player but I'm surprised to see the Cowboys hand him an extension at this stage.

 

[Kangaroo]

You could make that argument for 2010 season but how about Scandrick's poor play in 2009?

He isn't a starting quality CB. CB isn't a position that you magically figure out in your 4th season. He doesn't have ball skills or the closing burst you need to be a top corner. He also doesn't fit Ryan's aggressive scheme. He is a better fit for a Cover 2 scheme since he is a good tackler.

Because 2009 was his second year young players struggle sometimes after a solid rookie run. He is not all world he will project at best as a solid CB not all world not a ProBowler and the contract is not outrageous

 

[Bleu Star]

I'm not going to take the time to wade through what is undoubtedly a plethora of trepidation by our chicken littles over this news. I'll just say that OScan has been my boy from day one and he has consistently improved with each passing year on this team. No, he didn't go OMG PRO BOWL in his second season... but he also didn't go OMG WHO IS THIS JAG in his third season either... He has been consistent to say the least. Every year he has shown improvement and the guy is poised to breakout going into his fourth year with the team. I'll take consistency over a roller coaster ride any day. I'll also venture to say that the 5 year extension is the result of Rex Ryan's new impression of our defensive talent. He likes OScan... anyone that likes my boy is ok in my book.

 

[Mash]

The Cowboys needed to sign him....was it a bit much? Seems so.....but I like to see how the contract is structured.

If its just min salary the first few years plus that 10 mil guaranteed divided by 5 is 2 mil .....so its safe to assume the first few years might be a little less then 3 mil a year

That being said.....with Newman's age...and his constant nagging minor injuries....Scandrick and Jenkins seem to be our starting CB's of the future.

I actually think...Scandrick will have more success playing the outside CB postion. The slot CB position is the hardest CB position to play....and its pretty unfair comparing a CB playing the slot to a Cb playing outside.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Because 2009 was his second year young players struggle sometimes after a solid rookie run. He is not all world he will project at best as a solid CB not all world not a ProBowler and the contract is not outrageous

They were also doing that "alternating start" nonsense because Phillips didn't have the backbone to name a starter.

I think the pressure was good for Jenkins and bad for Sandrick.

 

[jblaze2004]

I always wondered why we didn't let newman guard the slot since he is more experienced. I thought newman use to play the slot good. I rather newman played the slot and scandrick play the outside (which i think he would excel at).
Unless its because newman old and not as agile or quick for the slot position no more.

 

[TheCount]

They were also doing that "alternating start" nonsense because Phillips didn't have the backbone to name a starter.

I think the pressure was good for Jenkins and bad for Sandrick.

I don't think it was nonsense, I liked that approach because it's as fair a shake as those two could possibly have gotten.

Jenkins rose to the occasion and Scandrick proved he wasn't quite ready. It was one of the very few times Wade actually opened up competition for a position.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Yep, Scandrick got his one start and got completely torched. Jenkins then went on to a Pro Bowl season.

Can't blame anyone or anything else for Scandrick not getting the job... He just failed to perform.

 

[ddh33]

So is Scandrick the team's top corner now?

 

[Mash]

So is Scandrick the team's top corner now?

Nope

 

[perrykemp]

So is Scandrick the team's top corner now?

If Scandrick is our top corner we are in trouble. He is a average to above average nickle CB.

In today's pass happy NFL, we are doomed if Scandrick is truly our #1 CB.

 

[YosemiteSam]

So is Scandrick the team's top corner now?

My guess is he becomes the starter after this season at the latest. Newman most definitely won't be a Cowboy next year.

 

[casmith07]

$10M guaranteed. It's $2M/year people. LEARN TO READ.