Cowboys Have Re-signed Anthony Spencer

[CashMan]

I like this signing more and more every day.

Why? Once again, if he doesn't play the year, he gets paid. There really is no upside, IF he plays, he is still recovering from a serious injury, and will have little impact.

 

[rpntex]

As I've stated, JFF is going to be good, but I don't like he is an Andrew Luck type that you just can't pass up.

If he falls to #16, that means 15 other teams passed on him, too. And some of them are in a much more dire situation (regarding QB) than Dallas is.

 

[rpntex]

Way to go out on a limb there.

jobberone is right, you are speculating (or maybe it's hoping) that the back injury and subsequent surgery will shorten Romo's career and that they need to draft a QB right now. .

Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

 

[Doomsday101]

People do try using the Packers and Aaron Rodgers as some sort of precedent, but it's always stated incompletely. While it is true that Green Bay drafted Rodgers as Brett Favre successor back in 2005, it is also true that the franchise never intended for Rodgers to sit behind Favre. Rodgers held a clipboard for as long as he did because Favre refused to retire as he continually said he would year after year. It was only after general manager Ted Thompson decided enough was enough that he sent Favre packing to the Jets before the start of the 2008 season.

The Pack/Rodgers situation would be dissimilar to the Cowboys' if Dallas chose to draft a first-round quarterback as Romo's successor. Green Bay did not want to challenge Favre's legendary status with Packer fans. That's why Rodgers sat for as long as he did. The same would not happen in Dallas. If Jerry Jones drafted a franchise quarterback prospect, which first-round selections are labeled as, that player isn't going to sit behind Romo for long regardless of Romo's $100 million dollar contract. For some odd reason, people forget what Jones is capable of.

Others have Phillip Rivers was a 1st rd pick did not play his 1st 2 years. What happened was rookies getting paid monster salary on day 1 and teams had little choice but to throw them out there ready or not. You look at a guy like JaMarcus Russell's six-year, $68 million contract without playing a down yes he was going to be a starter. However now that rookie contracts are not like that any longer teams can sit a QB if they choose and allow them the time to get ready instead of just throwing them out there ready or not.

 

[rpntex]

Rivers
Palmer
Kap if you wanna count a slider

Be real tho, if a team is drafting a top prospect then they are likely in dire need and will start him day one. But it still doesn't mean we have to suck just to find a replacement.

Rivers I give you, but Carson Palmer was a sgtarter from day one in Cincy. Kapernick (sp) wasn't considered a "top prospect".

 

[DanteEXT]

Why? Once again, if he doesn't play the year, he gets paid. There really is no upside, IF he plays, he is still recovering from a serious injury, and will have little impact.

Because it's a cheap flyer on a guy.

If he can't make it back and gets cut, no harm.

If he PUPS, his cost goes down.

If he makes the starting roster, means his knee is recovering.

If he hits his incentives and earns the full 3.5, the Cowboys still got bargain.

Yes, one less UDFA on the 90 man roster for training camp, so what? It's not costing much, if anything, if it fails and reaps significant benefits for cheap if it succeeds. Not sure what is not to like.

 

[CashMan]

Because it's a cheap flyer on a guy.

If he can't make it back and gets cut, no harm.

If he PUPS, his cost goes down.

If he makes the starting roster, means his knee is recovering.

If he hits his incentives and earns the full 3.5, the Cowboys still got bargain.

Yes, one less UDFA on the 90 man roster for training camp, so what? It's not costing much, if anything, if it fails and reaps significant benefits for cheap if it succeeds. Not sure what is not to like.

A lot of things, how to stole money last year, he is a bum, and we all know Jerry will get him on the 53, which will mean, someone will get cut, and he will appear in like 3 games before being IRed.

 

[Corso]

Oh Lord, UFC. You are better than that...

No. He's apparently not.

 

[Nightman]

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas-cowb...act?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

IRVING, Texas -- How much protection do the Dallas Cowboys have in Anthony Spencer's one-year deal?

Spencer

According to the contract, if Spencer starts the year on the physically unable to perform list or is placed on injured reserve, then he would be paid a split salary of $423,000.

A split salary for a veteran of Spencer’s ilk is not common and shows even more how team-friendly the one-year deal is.

That's a big concession and very team friendly. It takes the worry out of pushing him during Training Camp.

 

[DanteEXT]

Others have Phillip Rivers was a 1st rd pick did not play his 1st 2 years. What happened was rookies getting paid monster salary on day 1 and teams had little choice but to throw them out there ready or not. You look at a guy like JaMarcus Russell's six-year, $68 million contract without playing a down yes he was going to be a starter. However now that rookie contracts are not like that any longer teams can sit a QB if they choose and allow them the time to get ready instead of just throwing them out there ready or not.

Rivers signed a 6 year rookie deal, Rodgers signed a 5 year. They both had players who could play in front of them. You could afford to sit them.

JaMarcus Russell was the backup his rookie year... probably because he held out into the season I think. But Oakland also didn't have many other options at the time if I recall correctly.

 

[Alexander]

Rivers signed a 6 year rookie deal, Rodgers signed a 5 year. They both had players who could play in front of them. You could afford to sit them..

If a QB is taken in the first round, you can exercise the fifth year option under this CBA. It basically is a free franchise tag.

 

[CashMan]

Rivers signed a 6 year rookie deal, Rodgers signed a 5 year. They both had players who could play in front of them. You could afford to sit them.

JaMarcus Russell was the backup his rookie year... probably because he held out into the season I think. But Oakland also didn't have many other options at the time if I recall correctly.

Please provide the financials of their contracts! Because, since they were drafted and rookies now, a cap has gone into effect(sp?)

 

[rwill784]

Rivers I give you, but Carson Palmer was a sgtarter from day one in Cincy. Kapernick (sp) wasn't considered a "top prospect".

No he didn't he backed up kitna and kap could've went end of first. I'd say top prospects can slide to 2nd

 

[rwill784]

If he falls to #16, that means 15 other teams passed on him, too. And some of them are in a much more dire situation (regarding QB) than Dallas is.

That means nothing I can pretty much guarantee there's 31 teams wishing they had brady, brees, Wilson, and other top qbs who got passed because of "Need".

 

[Doomsday101]

Rivers signed a 6 year rookie deal, Rodgers signed a 5 year. They both had players who could play in front of them. You could afford to sit them.

JaMarcus Russell was the backup his rookie year... probably because he held out into the season I think. But Oakland also didn't have many other options at the time if I recall correctly.

I understand that and pointed it out but the bottom line rookie QB sat they were not forced to start right away they had the chance to learn without the pressure of starting. Should Dallas look to get a QB at some point given the fact there is now a rookie pay scale in place it does not force a team to sit a 68 mill dollar player.

 

[DallasEast]

Others have Phillip Rivers was a 1st rd pick did not play his 1st 2 years. What happened was rookies getting paid monster salary on day 1 and teams had little choice but to throw them out there ready or not. You look at a guy like JaMarcus Russell's six-year, $68 million contract without playing a down yes he was going to be a starter. However now that rookie contracts are not like that any longer teams can sit a QB if they choose and allow them the time to get ready instead of just throwing them out there ready or not.

The Chargers/Rivers analogy some use is incomplete as well and not due to his contract. What people forget is that the Chargers were very doubtful of Drew Brees before they drafted Phillip Rivers. Marty Schottenheimer even benched Brees the season before and pushed old Doug Flutie out on the field.

It can be argued whether their general manager (A.J. Smith I think) ever really considered Brees as a franchise quarterback. They did not want Rivers to sit, but Brees kept demonstrating enough franchise quarterback quality play to remain as the starter until he got hurt in 2005. Even seeing him injured, the Chargers had offered Brees an incentive loaded $50 million contract to remain with the team. The contract was a clear sign San Diego wasn't 100% sure of Rivers yet. Fortunately for Brees, his injury was so severe that he was willing to cut bait, try his luck elsewhere and the Saints swooped him up.

I would argue that Rivers would have never became the full-time starter if Brees had been allowed to recover--even though Rivers was intended to supplant Brees in short order. That's the tricky thing about drafting a first string quarterback when you already have a franchise quarterback (or think you may already have a franchise quarterback).

 

[Doomsday101]

A lot of things, how to stole money last year, he is a bum, and we all know Jerry will get him on the 53, which will mean, someone will get cut, and he will appear in like 3 games before being IRed.

Spencer stole money last year? He was hurt I doubt he went out there looking to get injured and have this type of procedure done. While you are predicting please give me the lotto numbers so I can get rich. This is nothing but sour grapes. If Jerry wanted him so damn bad it would not be a 1 year deal with any real money based on incentives.

 

[Doomsday101]

The Chargers/Rivers analogy some use is incomplete as well and not due to his contract. What people forget is that the Chargers were very doubtful of Drew Brees before they drafted Phillip Rivers. Marty Schottenheimer even benched Brees the season before and pushed old Doug Flutie out on the field.

It can be argued whether their general manager (A.J. Smith I think) ever really considered Brees as a franchise quarterback. They did not want Rivers to sit, but Brees kept demonstrating enough franchise quarterback quality play to remain as the starter until he got hurt in 2005. Even seeing him injured, the Chargers had offered Brees an incentive loaded $50 million contract to remain with the team. The contract was a clear sign San Diego wasn't 100% sure of Rivers yet. Fortunately for Brees, his injury was so severe that he was willing to cut bait, try his luck elsewhere and the Saints swooped him up.

I would argue that Rivers would have never became the full-time starter if Brees had been allowed to recover--even though Rivers was intended to supplant Brees in short order. That's the tricky thing about drafting a first string quarterback when you already have a franchise quarterback (or think you may already have a franchise quarterback).

You can argue but the fact is he waas drafted 1st rd and sat 2 years that is not opinion it is just fact. Yes most teams using a 1st rd will play them day 1, why because they don't have a decent QB to begin with but the other factor was what 1st rd picks were being paid, you can't have that big of a chunk of your cap in a player who is sitting the bench. However now that rookies are not getting this big payouts you can allow a player to sit a year or 2 and learn before you throw them out there. Heck Eli did not start day 1 he sat most of the season behind Warner but Warner was having a bad season and Eli played 2nd half but I doubt NY grabbed Warner thinking he could not do the job

 

[DallasEast]

You can argue but the fact is he waas drafted 1st rd and sat 2 years that is not opinion it is just fact. Yes most teams using a 1st rd will play them day 1, why because they don't have a decent QB to begin with but the other factor was what 1st rd picks were being paid, you can't have that big of a chunk of your cap in a player who is sitting the bench. However now that rookies are not getting this big payouts you can allow a player to sit a year or 2 and learn before you throw them out there. Heck Eli did not start day 1 he sat most of the season behind Warner but Warner was having a bad season and Eli played 2nd half but I doubt NY grabbed Warner thinking he could not do the job

Why, in your opinion, do you think Rivers sat behind Rivers as long as he did?

 

[CashMan]

Spencer stole money last year? He was hurt I doubt he went out there looking to get injured and have this type of procedure done. While you are predicting please give me the lotto numbers so I can get rich. This is nothing but sour grapes. If Jerry wanted him so damn bad it would not be a 1 year deal with any real money based on incentives.

I am pretty confident, they knew about the procedure before he was franchised.