Cowboys Have Re-signed Anthony Spencer

[iceberg]

One advantage Dallas has is that Spencer has been working and rehabbing at Valley Ranch with trainers and medical staff I would say they at least have a clue as to where he is in this process. Right now Spencer is not going to pass a physical I knew that before he visited any of the teams give where he is in the rehab stage.

i would have to think they're weighing the risk vs reward to be sure. they see him every day, and they're taking a chance he'll be ready at zero cost to them.

but hey, jones sucks so this must be bad.

 

[Doomsday101]

i would have to think they're weighing the risk vs reward to be sure. they see him every day, and they're taking a chance he'll be ready at zero cost to them.

but hey, jones sucks so this must be bad.

That is the whole thing if you have a bias then no matter what Dallas does it will be wrong. lol
All I know is Spencer got a 1 year deal with a max of 3.5 mill only if incentives are reached and if this does not work out then Dallas walks away as they would with any other camp body brought into training camp.

 

[Corso]

Rivers sitting was not affordable, the amount QBs get paid now, it is VERY affordable.

That is a good point.
Assuming you mean strictly during their rookies contracts, of course.

 

[iceberg]

That is the whole thing if you have a bias then no matter what Dallas does it will be wrong. lol
All I know is Spencer got a 1 year deal with a max of 3.5 mill only if incentives are reached and if this does not work out then Dallas walks away as they would with any other camp body brought into training camp.

and this is what gets so frustrating. we resign spencer to a "kick the tires at no cost" contract and some people who hate to be called "son" go nuts as if jones has tossed another $10 mil out the window.

zero cost. zero gamble. if he can play, we get a hell of a deal, if not, we cut him. if we take a risk to see if he can play later in the year, very lost cost.

but people got a hate tree so far up their hiney hole they gotta bash anything they get a chance to and that's what makes this so hard a place to talk in anymore. thankfully my ignore just makes for strange broken convo's now, but their blithering simply isn't on my screen anymore.

 

[CashMan]

That is the whole thing if you have a bias then no matter what Dallas does it will be wrong. lol
All I know is Spencer got a 1 year deal with a max of 3.5 mill only if incentives are reached and if this does not work out then Dallas walks away as they would with any other camp body brought into training camp.

For me, there is no bias, I see a simple pattern. Since the last SB, it literally has been bad draft/bad signings year after year, accompanied by salary cap hell. Now, the last few drafts have been light years better, but the same person who was driving the bus for 17+yrs, is still driving it, which doesn't suggest change.

 

[CashMan]

That is a good point.
Assuming you mean strictly during their rookies contracts, of course.

Well, yes.

I think, sometimes, it is better for rookie QBs to sit behind someone. It might not work 100% of the time, it might only work 30% of the time, but look at Locker, Gabbert Ponder, they had no one to learn from. Well, I think Locker had Hasselbeck.

 

[DanteEXT]

That is the whole thing if you have a bias then no matter what Dallas does it will be wrong. lol
All I know is Spencer got a 1 year deal with a max of 3.5 mill only if incentives are reached and if this does not work out then Dallas walks away as they would with any other camp body brought into training camp.

I would love it if Spencer hits every one of those incentives, too.

 

[DallasEast]

Every team has reasons why they will or will not start a player day 1. Yes SD had Brees no need to start Rivers right away, Luck with the Colts there was no one and in most cases there is no one. As for Rodgers he sat 3 years behind Favre if they wanted to start him they could. Brett was not the coach, owner or GM they draft Rodgers for the same reason they drafted Hasslebeck and that was to have a quality QB waiting in the wings. In Hasslebeck case they traded to the seahawks for a first (10th overall) and third-round draft picks.

With how the rookie pay scale is teams will be able to draft and have that player sit if they have a quality starter who is getting up in age as teams did in the past before FA and caps

Cool.

 

[rpntex]

No he didn't he backed up kitna and kap could've went end of first. I'd say top prospects can slide to 2nd

Palmer started 13 games his rookie season.

 

[rwill784]

Palmer started 13 games his rookie season.

He was drafted 03 didn't start til 04 dude

 

[CF74]

Green bay, Aaron Rodgers...That is the only example people cling to where a top prospect sat behind a starter for any significant time.

Let's here about another team that did this.

Steve Young with the 49ers comes to mind..

 

[DanteEXT]

Steve Young with the 49ers comes to mind..

Young spent, I think, 2 seasons in the USFL and then another 2 on the Bucs team as a starter before he made it to SF to be a backup. Not even remotely the same.

 

[CF74]

Young spent, I think, 2 seasons in the USFL and then another 2 on the Bucs team as a starter before he made it to SF to be a backup. Not even remotely the same.

Sooo technical.. Dude could have started for many teams...

 

[ufcrules1]

That is the whole thing if you have a bias then no matter what Dallas does it will be wrong. lol
All I know is Spencer got a 1 year deal with a max of 3.5 mill only if incentives are reached and if this does not work out then Dallas walks away as they would with any other camp body brought into training camp.

The question is will they really walk away though.. or will they let him take up a roster spot hoping he may be able to add something later. If they do the right thing.. which they have a history of not doing, then yeah, everything is great.

 

[Doomsday101]

The question is will they really walk away though.. or will they let him take up a roster spot hoping he may be able to add something later. If they do the right thing.. which they have a history of not doing, then yeah, everything is great.

Yes I do think they will, they cut Hatcher and Ware loose this notion Jerry does not want to part ways is BS. Spencer is brought in on a low 1 year deal incentive based, 79 other players will go to camp if they feel there is a better option within DE over Spencer then I think they will cut him. If they choose to put him on pup that still leaves a roster space open and if he is still not good to go then again we release him. Only one with something to lose is Spencer, he will either be able to return and produce to earn his contract or is unable to come back from the injury and his career is done.

 

[rpntex]

He was drafted 03 didn't start til 04 dude

My mistake...didn't even take a snap his "rookie" season. Nonetheless, he was a starter in year #2, and I think most people would agree that there is a significant difference between waiting 2-3 years and waiting just 1.. And with Romo, we're talking about 2-3 years here.

Whatever the case, I stand corrected.

 

[rwill784]

My mistake...didn't even take a snap his "rookie" season. Nonetheless, he was a starter in year #2, and I think most people would agree that there is a significant difference between waiting 2-3 years and waiting just 1.. And with Romo, we're talking about 2-3 years here.

Whatever the case, I stand corrected.

I don't get why people think we are stuck with Romo, Romo can get tossed in a year or two I believe. I don't want to pass up on a franchise qb (not saying jfb is) because of need. Drafting for need produces more failures than success. Unless it's Barr or Donald we gotta take the best player up there. I'm at the point were I don't care what position they play (except te) lol

 

[ufcrules1]

M And with Romo, we're talking about 2-3 years here.

That is a big ole assumption right there.

 

[rpntex]

I don't get why people think we are stuck with Romo, Romo can get tossed in a year or two I believe. I don't want to pass up on a franchise qb (not saying jfb is) because of need. Drafting for need produces more failures than success. Unless it's Barr or Donald we gotta take the best player up there. I'm at the point were I don't care what position they play (except te) lol

Obviously, we're not "stuck" with anyone. Conventional wisdom, however, says you don't pay a guy what Romo is going to make to sit on the bench. Nor do you cut him and accelerate $41m into this year's cap, or $28m into next year's, or $18m into the 2016 cap. Once we reach 2017, he can actually be released and SAVE $11m on the cap. Since he can't be cut without a severe financial penalty, we are (figuratively) stuck with him. Whether he's starting or not, he's a Cowboy for the next three seasons.

I believe Manziel has an excellent chance of being a franchise QB, but like almost all QBs, it's going to take a couple of seasons. The Andrew Lucks of the world are very rare.

I am all for drafting the "QB of the future", and rather sooner than later. And I wouldn't have a problem if it turns out to be Johnny Manziel. The only drawback with Manziel is not his character, or anything that's really under his control. It's the media circus that will inevitably come with hm, and the Cowboys get enough of that kind of attention as it is. But, if he's the BPA when it's our time, it's going to be hard to pass on him. If that comes to,pass, then the fanbase is gonna have to live with the thought of Romo still being the starter. The first time he throws an INT, he's still going to be the starter.

 

[rpntex]

That is a big ole assumption right there.

Nope, as long as Romo's health holds out, he's the starter for the next three seasons. Jerry's not going to

A) cut him and take the huge cap hit, as well as the public outcry that will come with eradicating what little cap space he has.

B) sit him on the bench, despite his massive salary, and take that media and fanbase firestorm he'll get for paying a backup QB 6X the salary of every other backup in the NFL.

The only hope the anti-Romo faction has is for Romo's back to keep him out of the game.