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Bucs' Simms braces for his future



By John Romano, Times Sports Columnist
In print: Sunday, August 10, 2008

MIAMI — For 20 minutes, he was a football player again.
Not a rehab case. Not a disgruntled employee. Not a trading chip.
Chris Simms had an entire field in front of him and was anxious to put the past behind.

It didn't really matter that his huddle was populated with a few guys you barely remember and a few more you will never get to know. It didn't matter that the stadium was half-empty or the score was meaningless.
When you spend 22 months wondering if there is anything remaining in the life you once had, you're not likely to sweat those kind of details.

"There's always those doubts," Simms said. "It's been so long since I've been out there, am I going to see everything clearly? Or is it all going to be a mishmash? I was confident I could do it because I put a couple of good weeks of practice behind me but, yeah, there were some doubts."
In the end, this was a night to start over. To put the life-threatening spleen injury behind him. To forget his spot on the depth chart, and his place in the trade rumors.

It was even a night to overlook his disagreements with Jon Gruden.
"He gave me a little hug, and said he was proud of me," Simms said. "That was real nice of him."
And did you hug back?
"Yeah, kinda," Simms grinned. "A little hug."

As auditions go, this was a keeper. Simms was effective by most standards, and pretty darned impressive when you consider it was his first extensive playing time in nearly two years.
He completed 8 of 10 passes for 60 yards and a 91.7 QB rating on his three possessions, and he drove the Bucs to one touchdown and one missed field goal.

Perhaps he held onto the ball a little too long on a couple of plays when he was sacked. And you might point out a couple of downfield passes were not even close to their targets.
Still, such complaints feel like nitpicking on a night such as this.
"He has a long way to go to get it all back," Gruden said. "But a lot of it came back tonight."

For Simms, the results are probably incidental. If he continues to play well, maybe another team is willing to give up a fifth-round draft pick in a trade. (Among the teams with scouts in the press box Saturday night were the Bears and Cowboys, both of whom seem to have interest in Simms.)

And if he has a rough outing or two later in the month, the Bucs will likely release him and Simms gets his wish to be a free agent.
Either way, his time in Tampa Bay appears to be growing short. The present belongs to others. The future does, too. Simms is here today, but he already belongs to Tampa Bay's past.

What he showed Saturday night is that he can still be a viable NFL prospect elsewhere.

If there was one sequence that should have convinced you, it was on his final possession. Simms was blindsided by 305-pound defensive end Randy Starks for a sack on second down. The next play, Simms stood calmly in the pocket and hit Micheal Spurlock on third and 13 for a 15-yard gain.
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I really wasn't too concerned with getting hit," Simms said. "I knew my body was ready to get hit again."

When the Bucs scored a touchdown later in that drive, it was impossible not to feel happy as he pumped his fist in celebration.

Before Simms, 27, could reach the sideline after Michael Bennett's 1-yard touchdown run, Luke McCown was on the field to congratulate him. Followed by Brian Griese. Followed by Josh Johnson.

They are the quarterbacks likely to stay. The ones who will follow Jeff Garcia in some order on the depth chart. But it doesn't mean they weren't touched by what they had just seen.

"It was great to see him out there," McCown said. "Chris and I have been together for four years and we have a great relationship, and I know Brian and Chris are close, too. We're all rooting for each other. We want to see Chris go back to being the quarterback he was, and he took a big step forward tonight."

It has been five years since Simms was a hotshot coming out of the University of Texas, and three years since he was winning games as Tampa Bay's starting quarterback.

He's playing with the scrubs now and was relegated to the second half of the preseason opener against the Dolphins. He has no idea where, or if, he will be playing a month from now, and he has still got a ways to go before working the rust completely off his game.
Yet, for a short time Saturday night, none of that mattered.
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Trust me, compared to last year this is like night and day," Simms said. "At this time last year, I was wondering if I was ever going to be right again, and whether I'd ever be able to make the throws I needed to make. It was a helpless feeling. It's way better now."

For, no matter what else is going on, Chris Simms is a player again.
John Romano can be reached at romano@sptimes.com.
 

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I think we should take a flyer on Sims, it has been pretty evident for a year now that Brad Johnson's career is done.
 

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Doomsday;2185933 said:
I think we should take a flyer on Sims, it has been pretty evident for a year now that Brad Johnson's career is done.


I do too and have all along. Send them a 6 or a 7. he is worth it.

but please dont confuse simms coming here with him being the backup. I think alot of people are doing that.

i believe simms will come here to be the 3 and to learn the offense, get back into rhythm and get acquainted with the players on this roster then be the back up in 09.

I know many will start going crazy if simms comes here and johnson is still the backup but to me that is the way it should be.
 

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I just wish we wouldn't have let Matt Moore walk last year.

Its one of the few bad decisions this front office has made.
 

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theebs;2185936 said:
I do too and have all along. Send them a 6 or a 7. he is worth it.

but please dont confuse simms coming here with him being the backup. I think alot of people are doing that.

i believe simms will come here to be the 3 and to learn the offense, get back into rhythm and get acquainted with the players on this roster then be the back up in 09.

I know many will start going crazy if simms comes here and johnson is still the backup but to me that is the way it should be.

That is a good point, no argument here, though I would hope he could learn the system and surplant BJ as the backup.
 

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CATCH17;2185942 said:
I just wish we wouldn't have let Matt Moore walk last year.

Its one of the few bad decisions this front office has made.

I agree, everyone said he was nothing more then a career backup so it was no big deal. Hello we could use a career backup, I could think of a lot worse things to have and who knows he might of developed and had some trade value down the line.
 

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theogt;2185937 said:
I'd give up a 5th for a decent backup QB.
Me too, I'm hoping it's soon if they decide to do. Get him some reps with the team in preseason games.
 

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CATCH17;2185942 said:
I just wish we wouldn't have let Matt Moore walk last year.

Its one of the few bad decisions this front office has made.


I posted that a few days ago and I had people stringing up a rope for me....but that is the truth. Moore ain't no hall of famer, but neither are BJ nor Bartel. He is a CAPABLE backup with a good arm and some starting qb experience; and still young enough to learn from JG.

But for now, Simms is probably what the FO is looking at. OK by me.
 

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The last I heard the Bucs wanted a 4th rounder for Simms. Cowboys don't want to pay that much plus they'd be stuck with his contract. But I do remain worried about Johnson's play if he's needed, besides just handing off in a blow out game & Bartel so far hasn't shown enough to make the team. Makes me wonder how much Romo showed at the end of his rookie preseason (2003) for Parcells to keep him on the roster.
 

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CATCH17;2185942 said:
I just wish we wouldn't have let Matt Moore walk last year.

Its one of the few bad decisions this front office has made.

Can we thank Terry Glenn for that?

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sago1;2185974 said:
The last I heard the Bucs wanted a 4th rounder for Simms. Cowboys don't want to pay that much plus they'd be stuck with his contract. But I do remain worried about Johnson's play if he's needed, besides just handing off in a blow out game & Bartel so far hasn't shown enough to make the team. Makes me wonder how much Romo showed at the end of his rookie preseason (2003) for Parcells to keep him on the roster.


That maybe so, Bucs wanting a forth, doesn't mean they get it. A fifth is all he is worth.
 

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theebs;2185936 said:
I do too and have all along. Send them a 6 or a 7. he is worth it.

but please dont confuse simms coming here with him being the backup. I think alot of people are doing that.

i believe simms will come here to be the 3 and to learn the offense, get back into rhythm and get acquainted with the players on this roster then be the back up in 09.

I know many will start going crazy if simms comes here and johnson is still the backup but to me that is the way it should be.

Not guna happen - We are way to loaded to carry a 3rd QB on the roster with crayton and stanback.

If it comes to the injuries well put BJ on IR and sign a free agent if really necessary.
 

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Exactly which FA are you thinking will be available later on? And how long would it take for that unknown QB to learn our offense? I'm thinking Cowboys interested in Simms maybe cause they've studied film on him but more likely cause Garrett, who also played for Bucs for a year, is more familiar with Simms work.
 

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IF the Cowboys think that in 2009 Simms can be the primary back-up to Romo, and that he can be a good back-up, I would use a 5th-7th rounder in next year's draft.

We are going to have a lot of picks next year, including at least a couple of comp picks. There is no way all those guys are going to be able to make this club.

Clearly, there is a need for a QB to develop behind Romo for insurance purposes. Let's use a late Day 2 pick in the Draft, if possible, to get this problem sorted.
 

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sago1;2185974 said:
The last I heard the Bucs wanted a 4th rounder for Simms. Cowboys don't want to pay that much plus they'd be stuck with his contract. But I do remain worried about Johnson's play if he's needed, besides just handing off in a blow out game & Bartel so far hasn't shown enough to make the team. Makes me wonder how much Romo showed at the end of his rookie preseason (2003) for Parcells to keep him on the roster.
I don't want to give upa 4th for him. That has been the Cowboys best round the last few of years. We got Barber and Canty and now Choice all in the 4th. But I'd give a 5th with maybe a condition and I'd give a 6th in a heartbeat.
 

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I live in Tampa and was impressed with Simms despite the way he has been portrayed down here.

Gruden absolutely did the kid a complete disservice when he used a Martz-like play calling philosophy with the kid when he all but abandoned the run at the very initial stage of his career despite having an OL with inferior pass blocking skills.

I believe he wouldn't know what to do with himself with the pass blocking we have here as compared to the paltry line play he has been accustomed to in Tampa.

I was also very impressed with the kids intestinal fortitude in the game were he was sidelined with the lacerated spleen and could have died. He kept playing with it even though it was obvious he was in what we know now had to be an enormous amount of pain. Lot's of guts as far as I'm concerned.

I'd feel very optimistic if we were to sign him.
 

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Carpenter and a 3rd for Simms and a 4th

I would do this in a heartbeat.
 
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