CFZ Cowboys hype was overblown and fans are reeling

[Diehardblues]

Even though I agree with you, this post was made in hindsight. Should have been posted before the game.

The 2021 season should have tought even the worst homers that you shouldn't let this team get you hyped before post season. And every year people think that beating the "little ones" makes this team great. As of now we're probably the leader of the chasing pack, but not in the leading group. Ever since the KC game in '21 this hasnt changed. So basically nothing new here.

It was still fun to dream for a short moment though. Would have been so cool if we could have kicked these pesky miners butts.

Well well, there's always another season. "And that's the way that's going to be."

Actually I did provide some insight the week before game cautioning fans . I had some hope as well this season could be different but I knew not to buy in until we played a legit contender .

My cautions were shot down on the most part as negative or not believing . The same ole crap. And it wasn’t just the homers who bought in. Some fans I’d normally align with were leaning that this season was looking different . Even after AZ loss which should have been the red flag.

 

[Rayman70]

No doubt but like my father taught me early on in life that winning just makes it more fun.

Character and diehards are built on losing. Adjust those expectations and if you have some success appreciate more.

Cowboy fans got used to winning for decades. Fun fun

It’s past time this era they get used to losing.
Not as much fun

in Jerrys view, winning has a different meaning. For him, winning is net worth, the family business profit margins and side ventures. Just is. Thats how he measures team success. We as a fan look at it with tunnel vision, meaning...wins vs losses and Super Bowls. He no longer views it that way and I think age has changed his thinking. Because he knows he has little time left and the business will be left to family. I hate it but its the truth. We gage winning differently than the Jones Boys do. As long as the product on the field is fair to middling...hovering at .500 or slightly better, that IS winning in his eyes and keeping profits in the black.

 

[Diehardblues]

in Jerrys view, winning has a different meaning. For him, winning is net worth, the family business profit margins and side ventures. Just is. Thats how he measures team success. We as a fan look at it with tunnel vision, meaning...wins vs losses and Super Bowls. He no longer views it that way and I think age has changed his thinking. Because he knows he has little time left and the business will be left to family. I hate it but its the truth. We gage winning differently than the Jones Boys do. As long as the product on the field is fair to middling...hovering at .500 or slightly better, that IS winning in his eyes and keeping profits in the black.

No doubt our priorities don’t perfectly align with Jethro .

That’s the biggest reason to adjust our expectations which provides us less hope. Unfortunately our fanbase continues sending our owner the wrong message.

 

[Rayman70]

We’re 5 games in with 12 left to play. If this team makes the playoffs it will have earned it with the teams we have on the schedule. Lots of variables happen each week. Injuries to other teams etc. While SF is the best team in football currently, a season ending injury could derail that fast.

we aint getting 12 wins this time. Lucky if we get 10. This team has 2 many issues.

 

[Rayman70]

No doubt our priorities don’t perfectly align with Jethro .

That’s the biggest reason to adjust our expectations which provides us less hope. Unfortunately our fanbase continues sending our owner the wrong message.

I agree. The fanbase is crazy dumb at times and lacks a cleareyed view. It feeds the beast.

 

[Aven8]

we aint getting 12 wins this time. Lucky if we get 10. This team has 2 many issues.

I just want to win. Don’t care how they do it. I’m not a tanker kind of guy. I love football and I would prefer my team to be a winner

 

[Diehardblues]

I just want to win. Don’t care how they do it. I’m not a tanker kind of guy. I love football and I would prefer my team to be a winner

I think we all would like to be rooting for a winner. Much more fun. I’m just not sure our fanbase with our glory years of success are all cut out to root for a team that isn’t a winner.

It takes a different mentality. One I developed following my Alma Mater which is usually a dormant school. You just learn to expect disappointment and adjust your expectations . Then whatever success comes along ultimately enjoy. That’s what being a Diehard is all about.

Maybe it’s going to take a couple more decades of disappointment to clean out all of these casual and wagon fans around the country who hopped when we were winning.

 

[Rayman70]

I had 2 adjust my win total. I think 8-9 wins is realistic.

 

[Aven8]

I think we all would like to be rooting for a winner. Much more fun. I’m just not sure our fanbase with our glory years of success are all cut out to root for a team that isn’t a winner.

It takes a different mentality. One I developed following my Alma Mater which is usually a dormant school. You just learn to expect disappointment and adjust your expectations . Then whatever success comes along ultimately enjoy. That’s what being a Diehard is all about.

Maybe it’s going to take a couple more decades of disappointment to clean out all of these casual and wagon fans around the country who hopped when we were winning.

Our fan base is getting younger and younger and they have no clue what it was like to really win. I don’t relish in any of that anymore.

Just get into the playoffs year after year and sooner or later you might win one. We certainly won’t if we do not get in. That’s what I like about Mike. He can get you in repeatedly. I mean GB had Rogers, the “Mahomes” of that generation, and still only won once. But they got in and had a chance year after year. Landry did the same. Duke. Bama. On and on….

 

[Aftershock]

It amazes me the reaction after this loss. Like we need to totally scratch and start over.

It’s obvious how much too many fans bought into the SB hype and one of the best teams in the league. When will this foolish casual and wagon fanbase learn to pump the brakes until further evidence is provided.

Cowboy fans have been so deprived this era of more success are desperate to finally have built a true contender they grasp at the first sighting and allow themselves to be suckered in not only from our owner who relishes in generating the hype but the mediots who compound the problem.

This team had so many concerns coming in with how this new offense would develop, the health of our OL, the depth of our RB’s, not having a star TE not to mention other issues.

The overall selling point this season was that our defense could become an elite caliber carrying this team further than it had been. But there were concerns as well like could we finally stop the run. Had we actually found the answer up the middle in our defense. And the season begun with dominating fashion with one hiccup in the desert .

But many of us warned or cried out to pump the brakes until we faced a legit contender. The offense was struggling in the Redzone not needing to do too much with a defense setting the tone leading the league in turnovers again.

The horrible upset loss in AZ should have sent a shot across our bow that without the defense dominating we had some issues offensively. I think fans just assumed that McCarthys new Texas Coast offense would naturally be better than Moores offense. And our lopsided wins fans didn’t dissect much further.

This loss to SF didn’t surprise me at all. Nor most in my close circle of local Cowboy friends. What we did take away is the Gap has widened between us from last year. And we , at least at this point , aren’t a SB contender which basically supports what we had suspected.

The good news is we are probably closer to what we saw coming in . A 9 or 10 win team fighting for a Wild Card slot with one of the toughest schedules in the league. This happened a few years ago when we begun the season 3-0.

Our hope was our defense could make a difference carrying a lesser offense this year, one that in recent years had been top 5-10 with roles reversed with a top 5 defense carrying a lesser offense.

Now that reality has set in fans who had bought into this hype are reeling. They feel a total reset is needed. Perhaps some serious tweaks do need to be made. But none some of us had already warned about . It amazes me how this one loss has totally reversed these fan’s mentality. It just solidifies how much they had bought in.

The roster is good. Dak just needs all pros at every position to be successful.

 

[fivetwos]

As I mentioned elsewhere, there was no hype directly from Jerry Jones that made me excited about this team. It was all me.

People tend to lean toward what they want to happen as being closer to a reality than it probably is. Humans gon’ human.

This team isn’t cooked, but they clearly need to get better as they go along. There are many examples in history of that happening, so there’s hope…and certainly no need to give up.

When we are eliminated this year it’s not going to make me feel any better to tell everyone about how I knew it was coming.

Personally I think they are close and it’s shameful that Jerry and his kid think they are outsmarting the league by not being aggressive enough to get over the hump. Really, it’s more about them not at all being capable and not wanting to be exposed. We are at a disadvantage off the field that probably cannot be overcome if we are being honest.

The top teams out there at the moment have been extremely aggressive in dealing high picks and top players both in and out.

We plug the biggest hole from the past season with a first round pick and call it an off-season.

 

[Creeper]

I don't think it is just that they lost to SF, it is how they lost. They were dominated and exposed on both sides of the ball. On top of that they looked totally demoralized and that is my bigger concern. Like Dan Quinn said, they can't let that game beat them twice and if he said it then he must be concerned about it too.

The bottom line is, they lost two key players on defense and it is going to hurt them, so the offense really needs to pick it up now. I don't think McCarthy is going to change the offense dramatically in 1 week so there is a good chance the Cowboys lay another egg next week.

Then, they are talking about moving Parsons to LB and relying on Armstrong, Williams Lawrence and Fowler to get pressure without Parsons. I can see another bad day for the defense coming against a QB who can be as accurate as Purdy if he has time.

 

[mardwin]

If this team loses to the Chargers the whole team could collapse. I had us at 11 wins this year. If we lose Monday night I don't think we get there.

Timing is everything, the collapse needs to happen before Jerry gets the idea of extending Dak.

 

[BoysForLife]

There's a decent amount of truth to this post

Every year the same thing, then we are exposed, then everyone freaks out and says blow it up and start over.

then in the offseason, very minor tweaks that I suspect are more intended to pacify the fanbase than to actually dramatically improve the team.
Everyone gets excited, it's finally our year etc.

then we start off great against a horrible Giants team, the media and fan circus begins.
Then the crash and everyone is devastated again.

I mean, how many times did Tina have to wear sunglasses and turtlenecks before she was as much to blame as Ike was?
I'm not defending the Jones or the organization, but Greg is right. If people keep buying and guzzling the kool aid, at some point, they are complicit as much as Jerry and Stephen are. The old "fool me once" adage is in full effect here folks. We need to stop buying what they are selling until there is real change and real results.

 

[nightrain]

So a close loss would be a moral victory. Is that how you felt the last 2 playoff losses?

Everyone was calling SF one of if not the top team. A loss is a loss . Blowout just fuels the fire for those who looking for the ammo.

Moral victory? How about gong out on the field and competing. The moral here is to the Victor goes the spoils, but at least earn their respect by putting up a fight.

 

[BoysForLife]

Moral victory? How about gong out on the field and competing. The moral here is to the Victor goes the spoils, but at least earn their respect by putting up a fight.

Agreed. you go to SF and lose 27-21, something like that in a dog fight, you can walk away with a lot of positives even in a loss.

Getting b slapped up one side of the field and down the other for 60 solid minutes, there's nothing positive or encouraging to take away from that.
Just a savage beating, top to bottom. Horrible.

 

[john van brocklin]

It amazes me the reaction after this loss. Like we need to totally scratch and start over.

It’s obvious how much too many fans bought into the SB hype and one of the best teams in the league. When will this foolish casual and wagon fanbase learn to pump the brakes until further evidence is provided.

Cowboy fans have been so deprived this era of more success are desperate to finally have built a true contender they grasp at the first sighting and allow themselves to be suckered in not only from our owner who relishes in generating the hype but the mediots who compound the problem.

This team had so many concerns coming in with how this new offense would develop, the health of our OL, the depth of our RB’s, not having a star TE not to mention other issues.

The overall selling point this season was that our defense could become an elite caliber carrying this team further than it had been. But there were concerns as well like could we finally stop the run. Had we actually found the answer up the middle in our defense. And the season begun with dominating fashion with one hiccup in the desert .

But many of us warned or cried out to pump the brakes until we faced a legit contender. The offense was struggling in the Redzone not needing to do too much with a defense setting the tone leading the league in turnovers again.

The horrible upset loss in AZ should have sent a shot across our bow that without the defense dominating we had some issues offensively. I think fans just assumed that McCarthys new Texas Coast offense would naturally be better than Moores offense. And our lopsided wins fans didn’t dissect much further.

This loss to SF didn’t surprise me at all. Nor most in my close circle of local Cowboy friends. What we did take away is the Gap has widened between us from last year. And we , at least at this point , aren’t a SB contender which basically supports what we had suspected.

The good news is we are probably closer to what we saw coming in . A 9 or 10 win team fighting for a Wild Card slot with one of the toughest schedules in the league. This happened a few years ago when we begun the season 3-0.

Our hope was our defense could make a difference carrying a lesser offense this year, one that in recent years had been top 5-10 with roles reversed with a top 5 defense carrying a lesser offense.

Now that reality has set in fans who had bought into this hype are reeling. They feel a total reset is needed. Perhaps some serious tweaks do need to be made. But none some of us had already warned about . It amazes me how this one loss has totally reversed these fan’s mentality. It just solidifies how much they had bought in.

I keep hoping against hope that this Team can somehow win in spite of Jerry's negative influence on the culture of the team as well as his poor GMing of the Team.
After the Cards game I knew who we were and the 49ers game just confirmed it.
Of equal concern is the regression of Dak Prescott to the point that I am ready to move on.
He is a slightly good QB who is nowhere worth his cap hit.
I am not trusting the Jones to make the right decision concerning Dak, and even if they do, I don't trust them to find a decent replacement.
The future looks very bleak right now, and I think a lot of fans are seeing that...
Hence the strong reactions....

 

[nightrain]

Agreed. you go to SF and lose 27-21, something like that in a dog fight, you can walk away with a lot of positives even in a loss.

Getting b slapped up one side of the field and down the other for 60 solid minutes, there's nothing positive or encouraging to take away from that.
Just a savage beating, top to bottom. Horrible.

They didn't belong on the field with the 49ers Sunday night.

 

[Diehardblues]

I keep hoping against hope that this Team can somehow win in spite of Jerry's negative influence on the culture of the team as well as his poor GMing of the Team.
After the Cards game I knew who we were and the 49ers game just confirmed it.
Of equal concern is the regression of Dak Prescott to the point that I am ready to move on.
He is a slightly good QB who is nowhere worth his cap hit.
I am not trusting the Jones to make the right decision concerning Dak, and even if they do, I don't trust them to find a decent replacement.
The future looks very bleak right now, and I think a lot of fans are seeing that...
Hence the strong reactions....

The future didn’t look different before this game unless you had bought into the hype .

 

[john van brocklin]

The future didn’t look different before this game unless you had bought into the hype .

I was hoping the blind squarrel could find the nut !