Cowboys lack deep speed at WR

[805BoysInBlue]

After watching Daks deep throws last week, I highly doubt he'd hit a reciver. I don't think he'd have enough time to let the route develop behind this o line.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Both.

I'm not surprised with this answer...considering the source. Good one bro. lol

 

[Coogiguy03]

Turpin is more than fast enough we just don't use him

We just want to jet sweep him to death and put him in motion and not throw it to him

 

[Coogiguy03]

Turpin and Cooks are too short. We saw last season the few times they went deep, passes ended up incomplete. Defensive backs, who were taller, simply raised their arms up in the air and knocked those passes down.

Cowboys need a taller deep threat WR.

Does Dak have the arm to get it to one though bro???

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Both.

LLLOOOLLL

 

[Coogiguy03]

I think WR speed is fine. There have been several plays already where out receivers have got in front of the defense, but Dak has overthrown them.

And underthrown

 

[Coogiguy03]

We just gave Lamb 136 million dollars. If he isn't fast enough I would suggest he hit the weight room or find a good steroid dealer.

I would also add that we just gave 240 million dollars and he underthrows anyone who runs deep anyway.

Post of the morning!!!! Every deep ball is never thrown so the WR can catch and run, he has to stop and come back to the ball

 

[Loso86]

The Saints' deep speed WR, Rashid Shaheed (6'0 foot, 180 lbs, 4.3 40 yd time, comes from a track speed family), was a huge difference maker for the Saints' offense both against the Cowboys (4 tgts, 4 catches, 96 yds, 24.0 y/c avg, 1 TD) and the Panthers (5 tgts, 3 catches, 73 yds, 24.3 y/c avg, 1 TD) to start off this 2024 season. Rashid Shaheed went undrafted and picked up by the Saints. He has been a big difference maker for the Saints offense by being a consistent deep threat playmaker and helping open up the field underneath for the other Saints receiving weapons in WR Chris Olave, TE Foster Moreau and RB Alvin Kamara.

https://www.deseret.com/2023/9/19/2...fted-now-is-nfl-star-with-new-orleans-saints/

What about the Dallas Cowboys? Who is their deep threat playmaker who can open the field up underneath for their slower WRs while completing deep throw plays?

The fastest WRs on this team are 28 year old, 5'9, 153 lb special teamer KaVontae Turpin and 30 year old, 5'10", 189 lb with lots of wear-n-tear Brandin Cooks. Neither of them have the height or consistent deep threat ability that the Saints' Rashid Shaheed has. None of our other WRs run faster than a high 4.4 second 40 nor any deep threat ability, and it has hurt the Cowboys offense these past 2 games to start the season.

This Dallas Cowboys team needs to learn from the Saints. Bring a true deep threat WR to the team and allow that true deep speed receiver help your offense.

What say you?

Cowboys lack any playmaker on Offense period not named Lamb!

 

[Diehardblues]

True, but that's what deep threat WRs usually accomplish: average yard catches underneath but suddenly hurt you with a deep catch or two which keeps your defense honest and guessing, plus help open the field up underneath for your other receivers.


Fair enough but what else is there to help our offense open the field up for our other receivers underneath? Brandin Cooks and KaVontae Turpin aren't accomplishing that. Are you happy seeing our receivers easily shut down underneath? Plus, having no deep threat also affects any running attack from getting established.

All good points. A speed receiver would be awesome.

But what would open up receivers downfield more is a better running game where safeties wouldn’t be able to sit back in coverage.

Unfortunately this Cowboys offense is going to be almost solely dependent on our passing game . Not brilliant strategy with a QB who’s been much more effective with a stronger running game.

 

[Diehardblues]

Cowboys lack any playmaker on Offense period not named Lamb!

Lamb also has the Cowboys longest run from scrimmage.

We desperately need a running game.

 

[Jarntt]

The Saints' deep speed WR, Rashid Shaheed (6'0 foot, 180 lbs, 4.3 40 yd time, comes from a track speed family), was a huge difference maker for the Saints' offense both against the Cowboys (4 tgts, 4 catches, 96 yds, 24.0 y/c avg, 1 TD) and the Panthers (5 tgts, 3 catches, 73 yds, 24.3 y/c avg, 1 TD) to start off this 2024 season. Rashid Shaheed went undrafted and picked up by the Saints. He has been a big difference maker for the Saints offense by being a consistent deep threat playmaker and helping open up the field underneath for the other Saints receiving weapons in WR Chris Olave, TE Foster Moreau and RB Alvin Kamara.

https://www.deseret.com/2023/9/19/2...fted-now-is-nfl-star-with-new-orleans-saints/

What about the Dallas Cowboys? Who is their deep threat playmaker who can open the field up underneath for their slower WRs while completing deep throw plays?

The fastest WRs on this team are 28 year old, 5'9, 153 lb special teamer KaVontae Turpin and 30 year old, 5'10", 189 lb with lots of wear-n-tear Brandin Cooks. Neither of them have the height or consistent deep threat ability that the Saints' Rashid Shaheed has. None of our other WRs run faster than a high 4.4 second 40 nor any deep threat ability, and it has hurt the Cowboys offense these past 2 games to start the season.

This Dallas Cowboys team needs to learn from the Saints. Bring a true deep threat WR to the team and allow that true deep speed receiver help your offense.

What say you?

Speed at WR wasn't the difference. From my seat it looked like the Saints could have run the ball every play and still blew us out

 

[thunderpimp91]

All good points. A speed receiver would be awesome.

But what would open up receivers downfield more is a better running game where safeties wouldn’t be able to sit back in coverage.

Unfortunately this Cowboys offense is going to be almost solely dependent on our passing game . Not brilliant strategy with a QB who’s been much more effective with a stronger running game.

This is the most frustrating piece to me... There are multiple ways the Cowboys could have improved this offense this offseason and refused to do any of them. They don't have a 2nd receiver to create matchup issues with and they dont have a run game teams have to respect.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Speed at WR wasn't the difference. From my seat it looked like the Saints could have run the ball every play and still blew us out

Exactly what it looked like from the TV screen too. Why in another thread, I posted I was shocked Carr threw it over 10 times. My arm would have been hurting from handing the ball to AK.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I'm not even sure if its just a speed issue, its just a lack of quality receivers past Lamb in general. They have some OK guys, but no legitimate #2 that can force a defense to worry about anything other than not letting Lamb beat them.

Tolbert had a couple nice plays on Sunday, but has a ways to go still to be considered a well rounded receiver. Cooks has saw his YPG decline every year since 2020. Turpin they are clearly trying to force feed the ball to get some sort of spark in the offense, but hes just not a good receiver. He struggled to hang onto the football and doesnt seem to be much of a route runner either.

 

[sbark]

So one poster says Dak overthrows his receivers. While another says Dak underthrows his receivers. Which is it?

Both
Every other play

At 60 mill, dak should strike fear into minds of a def..... looool

My bad...he does: 2nd & 3rd stringers with garbage time stats

 

[dfense]

After what I saw Sunday, I'm not complaining about the offense.

 

[Whirlwin]

The Saints' deep speed WR, Rashid Shaheed (6'0 foot, 180 lbs, 4.3 40 yd time, comes from a track speed family), was a huge difference maker for the Saints' offense both against the Cowboys (4 tgts, 4 catches, 96 yds, 24.0 y/c avg, 1 TD) and the Panthers (5 tgts, 3 catches, 73 yds, 24.3 y/c avg, 1 TD) to start off this 2024 season. Rashid Shaheed went undrafted and picked up by the Saints. He has been a big difference maker for the Saints offense by being a consistent deep threat playmaker and helping open up the field underneath for the other Saints receiving weapons in WR Chris Olave, TE Foster Moreau and RB Alvin Kamara.

https://www.deseret.com/2023/9/19/2...fted-now-is-nfl-star-with-new-orleans-saints/

What about the Dallas Cowboys? Who is their deep threat playmaker who can open the field up underneath for their slower WRs while completing deep throw plays?

The fastest WRs on this team are 28 year old, 5'9, 153 lb special teamer KaVontae Turpin and 30 year old, 5'10", 189 lb with lots of wear-n-tear Brandin Cooks. Neither of them have the height or consistent deep threat ability that the Saints' Rashid Shaheed has. None of our other WRs run faster than a high 4.4 second 40 nor any deep threat ability, and it has hurt the Cowboys offense these past 2 games to start the season.

This Dallas Cowboys team needs to learn from the Saints. Bring a true deep threat WR to the team and allow that true deep speed receiver help your offense.

What say you?

We really don’t have a number two receiver.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

I guess for me how long can you wait on these guys to turn it around, 3 or 4 years. Would say by year 2 you should be seeing something.

 

[Whirlwin]

To be fair, 70 of those yards came on one play where he was covered by a S not a CB. Other than that catch, he went 3 - 26. VERY pedestrian for a speed guy on a team that scored 44 points..

There is a reason all 32 teams have passed on him. He isn't even on a 15 deep PS anywhere!

He just doesn’t hesitate. That’s the issue. That’s what helps him coaching. He makes a decision and he does it.

 

[Whirlwin]

So now Dak needs another speedy wr, a shifty running back, a replacement tight end, a more mobile RT… etc when does the excuses stop for the highest paid player in NfL history.

Yeah, what quarterback doesn’t, LMAO