Cowboys looking at practice squads for RBs

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[quote="texbumthelife, post: 6384277, member: 11053"Don't get me wrong, I would have liked to seen more talent brought in during the off season, but NO team is prepared to lose two of their top three running backs.



Along with the franchise QB and Franchise WR, and best CB and best DE for 4 games along with a bevy of other injuries. I'm astonished people look at what this team has dealt with and wonder why they aren't looking like a playoff team.[/quote]

I dont think, nor do I remember anyone expecting this to look like a playoff caliber team with Dez and Romo out. What they would like to see however is a playoff caliber team, minus a few critical pieces, winning a game or two to give us a fighting chance at making a run to get into the playoffs when we get our QB back. Instead what we've all seen is some pretty pathetic play by our backup QB's and some real lack of creativity with our coaching staff which has made it look like we arent giving our best effort or we have coaches that havent a clue as what to do differently.
 

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Being dumb enough to steal underwear wasn't enough to alert any body he's a mental midget. Our FO decided to ride that horse.

The league is littered with players who aren't choir boys. Just look at our teams history. You can find far worse offenses than what Randle did.
 

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Terrell Watson is very intriguing. 6' 1, 242 LBS and is a physical runner. He has my vote.

He looked very good in a few of the Bengal pre-season games. Showed a lot more moves in traffic than I expected. The one game I got to see him the most in, it was garbage time and they were playing with a big lead so Cincy was trying to run out the clock with him and some QB I had never heard of. The Bears were sending everyone to stop him and he just kept getting more yards. Ended up with 9 carries for 41 yards, long of 7. Most of those yards were all him as the OL didn't do much. Did 9 for 36 (8) against Indianapolis, but I didn't see that game. Also did 7 for 52 (26) against the Giants.
 
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No he wasn't wrong, He just wasn't the one do do anything about it.

I guess.

I mean..

it's hard to argue about 1800+ from one back..

where 4 guys probably aren't going to break 1000 all year long.

But that statement is probably another reason why he is gone.

..just stupid.

I think it was Forrest Gump who said..

"Stupid is as stupid does."
 

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No not in Philly, but in Dallas where he never averaged below 4 yards a carry you honestly think he would have the same success as this year?

Two separate studies of historical stats suggest that he would not be good this year.

1. RBs with over 370 carries are almost always bad the following season and most never recover to be a quality starter again.

2. RBs start to decline at age 27 (Murray's age).

So maybe if he had 392 carries at age 24 or he was 27 but had an NFL average amount of carries in the previous year then he would be OK to buck 1 or the other trend; however, when you put both studies/trends together, the probability becomes very low that he would have been a quality starter this year.
 

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Pierre Thomas was just signed by the 49ers. That guy must have really declined to still be on the street. He was a pretty nice and versatile back for the Saints.
 

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That was a terrible plan and many of us said the moment it emerged.

Randle was a backup with issues and McFadden was a basically a wash out.

Not signing Murray was the right decision from a probability perspective (see my post above).

The real question is whether they should have drafted a RB or signed one in free agency. I have not studied the progress of the 3rd round RBs, but I'm guessing most were probably not going to be a big improvement this season.

The 2 things that would have been a low cost investment were Chris Johnson and the UDFA Rawls. They almost signed Rawls and they brought CJ in for a workout. They probably just needed to make Rawls and Leary type offer. IIRC CJ was signed by AZ late in the preseason. If true, I'm curious if Randle was showing any signs of flaking out during the preseason.

So far there is not proof of a mistake because McFadden is playing well; however, CJ would have been good depth and Rawls would be depth and/or a guy for the future.
 

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Not signing Murray, good. He's a flop in Philly, many of their fans are already campaigning for Matthews starting, and it will only get worse from here.

Using that 3rd rounder on a 5th-6th round value in Green over a RB is the highly questionable decision.

I'd have loved to be in our war room when that pick was coming onto the clock.
 

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Just bring back Gus and lets roll. He knows the offense, and while slow, won't really play that much but he does have something.

I'm not very excited about our FO or coaching staff really picking skill position players anyway as they suck at it.
 

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Not signing Murray was the right decision from a probability perspective (see my post above).

The real question is whether they should have drafted a RB or signed one in free agency. I have not studied the progress of the 3rd round RBs, but I'm guessing most were probably not going to be a big improvement this season.

The 2 things that would have been a low cost investment were Chris Johnson and the UDFA Rawls. They almost signed Rawls and they brought CJ in for a workout. They probably just needed to make Rawls and Leary type offer. IIRC CJ was signed by AZ late in the preseason. If true, I'm curious if Randle was showing any signs of flaking out during the preseason.

So far there is not proof of a mistake because McFadden is playing well; however, CJ would have been good depth and Rawls would be depth and/or a guy for the future.

I don't buy that 370 touch stuff. I went back and looked at all of the Top 20 single season rushers. If you add up their total touches they went over 370 many many times and combined they had dozens of great seasons after such high volume seasons. This is especially true earlier in their career and 27 was no magic number.

The thing about career years is that you don't know when it is a career year or not until it is all over. A lot of people would say Emmitt would never set his career high of 2148 yards and 25 TDs on 439 touches after 3 seasons of 400+ touches. But he did. It was 2500 yds and 31 TDs if you count the postseason on 519 touches.

And he followed it up with a 1454 yards and 15 TDs season. Was that a failure compared to his career year? Does Brady have to throw 50 TDs every year to worth the money?

And no one counts playoff and preseason touches either. RBs have much more stamina than those 370+ carry blogs give them credit for.

Emmitt is just one of the dozens of examples.
 

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He looked very good in a few of the Bengal pre-season games. Showed a lot more moves in traffic than I expected. The one game I got to see him the most in, it was garbage time and they were playing with a big lead so Cincy was trying to run out the clock with him and some QB I had never heard of. The Bears were sending everyone to stop him and he just kept getting more yards. Ended up with 9 carries for 41 yards, long of 7. Most of those yards were all him as the OL didn't do much. Did 9 for 36 (8) against Indianapolis, but I didn't see that game. Also did 7 for 52 (26) against the Giants.

After reading this, I'm even more excited. Worth a look.
 

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They should have kept Murray and drafted Rawls

The RBBC would be:

Murray 300 carries
Randle 100 carries
Rawls 70 carries
Dunbar 30 carries/50 recepts

Total salary cap hit of 6.7m or less than Doug Free or about 1/2 of Carr.
 

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Using that 3rd rounder on a 5th-6th round value in Green over a RB is the highly questionable decision.

I'd have loved to be in our war room when that pick was coming onto the clock.
It probably wasn't as dramatic as you think. Highest priority remaining? Replacing Parnell, RB, blah blah blah. Highest graded player filling those priorities? Draft Green. Done.
 

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It probably wasn't as dramatic as you think. Highest priority remaining? Replacing Parnell, RB, blah blah blah. Highest graded player filling those priorities? Draft Green. Done.

Wouldn't it be awesome though to be able to hear the debate of these picks? Why the NFL doesn't allow fans the access to that post-draft is beyond me. I'd pay top dollar for it and I imagine I'm not alone on that. I suppose teams don't want you to know what they're thinking, even after the fact.
 
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